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No HT bypass. When listening to HT run the L/R pre out from the RZ 810 to one of the inputs of the Freya+. Per the suggestion of a clever member here I turn the Freya+ volume to max then use the Onkyo volume. After running Audyssey the levels are fine.
Even for home theater with 2x 18" subs? Any reason why? I just don't want to miss out on the extra goodies from the Be series, especially the center channel. I can only swing the F226Be or F208 so I have to consider between those. Thank you
Thank you! This is definitely something to consider then! I probably haven't ever felt good midbass. The F208s seem like an amazing value. As others have mentioned, it may only be a 5% increase in performance going up to the F226Be from the F208s. I foresee it being marginally better (maybe 20%?) If we are talking about the F208 vs the F228Be though. I cannot afford the F228Be so they are not in the mix. Also, since I use this room mainly for home theater, I may see even less of a difference between F208 and F226Be due to the home theater having so many sounds going on! Such a tough decision! I'm still waiting on a dealer to get in touch with me to find out price differences. Maybe this will clear it up more easily.
Can anyone shed more light on speaker efficiency? I'm considering the F208 which have a sensitivity of 88.5db and the F226Be that have a sensitivity of 90db. I am going to be using a 200w per channel amplifier. Will I not get as much dynamic range on the F208 vs F226Be because of this? I don't listen at reference so I am not worried about being able to crank up the processor to Reference or beyond Reference. I'm really leaning towards the F208 since this is mainly a home theater setup. Thanks
Can anyone shed more light on speaker efficiency? I'm considering the F208 which have a sensitivity of 88.5db and the F226Be that have a sensitivity of 90db. I am going to be using a 200w per channel amplifier. Will I not get as much dynamic range on the F208 vs F226Be because of this? I don't listen at reference so I am not worried about being able to crank up the processor to Reference or beyond Reference. I'm really leaning towards the F208 since this is mainly a home theater setup. Thanks
Main difference seems to be that the F208 plays lower, so if you don't have subs, that's probably what I'd go with. F226 might actually play louder though when subs are in play, given the higher sensitivity and the fact that power will be the spl limiter.
Main difference seems to be that the F208 plays lower, so if you don't have subs, that's probably what I'd go with. F226 might actually play louder though when subs are in play, given the higher sensitivity and the fact that power will be the spl limiter.
Thank you so much, Richard. You have been great at answering my concerns! I have great 18" Rhythmik subs so that's not a problem and makes this decision so much more difficult.
Thank you so much, Richard. You have been great at answering my concerns! I have great 18" Rhythmik subs so that's not a problem and makes this decision so much more difficult.
Anyone familiar with how the f206 compares to the f208? The f208 is right out for me, quite a bit larger than what I want and the f208 is already stretching the budget a bit. Was looking at the f35/f36 but the distortion figures and horizontal off axis performance is unreal, making me think of spending nice and having end game speakers for me.
Anyone familiar with how the f206 compares to the f208? The f208 is right out for me, quite a bit larger than what I want and the f208 is already stretching the budget a bit. Was looking at the f35/f36 but the distortion figures and horizontal off axis performance is unreal, making me think of spending nice and having end game speakers for me.
Yes I’m very familiar as I compared these two side by side. The F208 is more dynamic and can play louder with a deeper bass response.
With the curved cabinets, it looks much smaller when you set it up.
Had a bit of time so I optimized the measurements using the latest techniques for correct bass response. It substantially improved that region. I also made the resolution higher and same as what I have been using (20 points/octave vs 10 that used to be here). This made the graphs a bit rougher. Some of this may be due to my microphone boom that I have since optimized to reduce reflections.
New spin data is included so folks can update their preference scores.
Yes I’m very familiar as I compared these two side by side. The F208 is more dynamic and can play louder with a deeper bass response.
With the curved cabinets, it looks much smaller when you set it up.
I don't have that large of a room so I'm already pushing it with the F206 andI have a good sub that can handle 80hz and below well. I'm largely looking at the wider off axis response and lower distortion / more accurate /fuller tonal character compared to the F35/F36.
Had a bit of time so I optimized the measurements using the latest techniques for correct bass response. It substantially improved that region. I also made the resolution higher and same as what I have been using (20 points/octave vs 10 that used to be here). This made the graphs a bit rougher. Some of this may be due to my microphone boom that I have since optimized to reduce reflections.
New spin data is included so folks can update their preference scores.
I don't have that large of a room so I'm already pushing it with the F206 andI have a good sub that can handle 80hz and below well. I'm largely looking at the wider off axis response and lower distortion / more accurate /fuller tonal character compared to the F35/F36.
Had a bit of time so I optimized the measurements using the latest techniques for correct bass response. It substantially improved that region. I also made the resolution higher and same as what I have been using (20 points/octave vs 10 that used to be here). This made the graphs a bit rougher. Some of this may be due to my microphone boom that I have since optimized to reduce reflections.
New spin data is included so folks can update their preference scores.
Can anyone shed more light on speaker efficiency? I'm considering the F208 which have a sensitivity of 88.5db and the F226Be that have a sensitivity of 90db. I am going to be using a 200w per channel amplifier. Will I not get as much dynamic range on the F208 vs F226Be because of this? I don't listen at reference so I am not worried about being able to crank up the processor to Reference or beyond Reference. I'm really leaning towards the F208 since this is mainly a home theater setup. Thanks
Can anyone shed more light on speaker efficiency? I'm considering the F208 which have a sensitivity of 88.5db and the F226Be that have a sensitivity of 90db. I am going to be using a 200w per channel amplifier. Will I not get as much dynamic range on the F208 vs F226Be because of this? I don't listen at reference so I am not worried about being able to crank up the processor to Reference or beyond Reference. I'm really leaning towards the F208 since this is mainly a home theater setup. Thanks