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Revel Concerta2 C25 Review (Center Speaker)

Rate this speaker:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 18 10.2%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 51 28.8%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 88 49.7%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 20 11.3%

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    177

restorer-john

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Unless ONLY YOU sit dead center and watch movies, a Center speaker is EXTREMELY important for the overall experience.
You are basically just watching stereo TV, not surround sound with a 2.1 mix.

Nah, it's not important at all. There's plenty of us who threw out centre speakers years ago because they are pretty much useless, sound dreadful, and are so compromised they are really only useful as a source of spare parts for the mains (good way to pick up spare drivers cheap).

Good imaging mains running phantom (or mixed down to 2 channel) is better, way more high fidelity and it doesn't matter where you sit. Either that or do it properly- buy identical L-C-Rs and be done with it.
 

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Nah, it's not important at all. There's plenty of us who threw out centre speakers years ago because they are pretty much useless, sound dreadful, and are so compromised they are really only useful as a source of spare parts for the mains (good way to pick up spare drivers cheap).

Good imaging mains running phantom (or mixed down to 2 channel) is better, way more high fidelity and it doesn't matter where you sit. Either that or do it properly- buy identical L-C-Rs and be done with it.
Why doesn’t cinemas do the same do you think?
 

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Why doesn’t cinemas do the same do you think?

Several hundred people sitting all over a gigantic room, not a few people in a loungeroom, sitting on a sofa staring at a flat panel 10ft away.
 

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Why doesn’t cinemas do the same do you think?
That brings up the question about how accurate most theaters are, in 'rendering the proper audio' within their boundaries... even if they are FDA, EPA, and/or Dolby certified? :oops:
 

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That brings up the question about how accurate most theaters are, in 'rendering the proper audio' within their boundaries

All I know is cinemas in general are wayyy too loud in my experience.
 

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Several hundred people sitting all over a gigantic room, not a few people in a loungeroom, sitting on a sofa staring at a flat panel 10ft away.
In a cinema more people sit off-centre than a HT. The work of a centre speaker is way more pronounced than in a HT. And, tell that phantom centre to the people sitting near to the outside aisle!

I suggest you draw a cinema and an average HT side by side and re-read what you said above.
 

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Nah, it's not important at all. There's plenty of us who threw out centre speakers years ago because they are pretty much useless, sound dreadful, and are so compromised they are really only useful as a source of spare parts for the mains (good way to pick up spare drivers cheap).

Good imaging mains running phantom (or mixed down to 2 channel) is better, way more high fidelity and it doesn't matter where you sit. Either that or do it properly- buy identical L-C-Rs and be done with it.
Okay, if you say so.......
 
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Why doesn’t cinemas do the same do you think?
I'll do the math but only if you provide me the quantities of these Revel Centers that the cinemas are interested in.:)
 

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I'll do the math but only if you provide me the quantities of these Revel Centers that the cinemas are interested in.:)
What is your question to do with the make and model of the speaker when you are arguing no centre speaker should be used in a theatre?
 

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What is your question to do with the make and model of the speaker when you are arguing no centre speaker should be used in a theatre?
I think some have a lack of understanding of the basics of cinema and home cinema, and frankly should not even be in a thread about center speakers, or anything to do with home theatre.....o_O
 

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Nah, it's not important at all. There's plenty of us who threw out centre speakers years ago because they are pretty much useless, sound dreadful, and are so compromised they are really only useful as a source of spare parts for the mains (good way to pick up spare drivers cheap).

The science-based deficiencies of 'phantom' center -- of two channel audio in general -- are well known, and well remedied by a proper center channel loudspeaker.

Which isn't to say that is what is sold as a "center" necessarily fits the bill.
 

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Appears OT police are after my behind!
What is your question to do with the make and model of the speaker when you are arguing no centre speaker should be used in a theatre?
Mine was NOT a question, nor was I arguing about "no centre" in "theatre"...
I think some have a lack of understanding of the basics of cinema and home cinema,
Others have a lack (and/or understanding) of humor... regardless of my statement ending with a smilie.
 

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Others have a lack (and/or understanding) of humor... regardless of my statement ending with a smilie.
I think that is because we do not expect a joke in the middle of a debate
 

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.......Perhaps you should tell them.
And while you are at it, ask to speak to their speaker engineering department, and school them on proper center channel design!

At this point, if they haven't been told coaxials exist, I'm not going to be the one to tell them about the internet.

Thankfully there is no need: Genelec and Kali seem to have that down on the low end and high end.
 

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Seems that matching LCR inwall coaxials would solve many of these issues…
 

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Hello, is woofer are the same as JBL SCL-6 ,SCL7 ? Revel and JBL have same mother factory Harmarn, What do you think ?
Could we expect same quality as low distortion ?
 

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