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Revel Be series discounted by 25%

I wish more would do that. When they get in my space and start trying to be my best friend I leave. Same thing with car dealers. I just need them to relax and let me fall in love with the car.
In sales training getting the customer involved is a major bonus. So having you investigate the speakers and determine your stuff is awesome. Nice sale. I've done it oftentimes while juggling customers during a big sale. Give customers a CD or let them use theirs and play with gear until I return. Some people really like that and others not so much. It's a double edged sword but it still goes as, "Get the customer involved." :D
 
tldr: I'm happy with my current speakers but, it is fun to look at others and that needs a showroom.
It's going to get harder and harder to do. Brick and mortar stores are closing down left and right, maybe not during COVID but definitely true as a trend over the years.

And if you go to a brick and mortar store to test drive and then buy from an dealer with no showroom for a better deal, the people who works at these brick and mortar stores will give you a guilt trip. They will lecture you how you used their resources (time, space, equipment) and not buy from them, how you don't support local businesses and how bad of a person you are.

I think the only brick and mortar store I went to in the last 6 months is Magnolia in Best Buy because the workers there don't make commission only hourly wage, so they couldn't care less if you "wasted" their time.
 
So in short 25% off of the Revel Be line is a good deal but it's not a *great* deal.
It is actually a great deal because the dealer is also getting a discount on their cost. So whatever discount you negotiated before, you can negotiate on the new cost basis. Maybe not quite as much since there isn't as many dollars involved but definitely a great deal and better than before.
 
I know they will definitely order them for me and maybe even with less overhead give me a good deal. But I like looking/listening to things in person before I buy.
I hope anyone who does that, proceeds and buys it from the same dealer. It would be quite improper to then go and buy it discounted online or whatever.
 
I was completely happy with my current speakers but I wandered into the magnolia hifi section and the salesman just let me play switching through all their speakers. I found some small ones that, to me, sounded better than anything in the room. When my wife came back I said "listen to these". She had the same reaction and I proceeded to switch through all of their speakers for her to listen to. Her only question was "can you switch on the slightly larger version next to those?" After the salesman fixed it so those would go on and pointed out they were an open box deal they were sold.
So what were they???
 
I hope anyone who does that, proceeds and buys it from the same dealer. It would be quite improper to then go and buy it discounted online or whatever.
I agree. At the least go back to that dealer and confirm and clarify the price for the stuff. Give them a chance to meet or beat your lowest price quote.
 
I hope anyone who does that, proceeds and buys it from the same dealer. It would be quite improper to then go and buy it discounted online or whatever.
I agree, I have always disliked the browsing locally and buying online thing. Even if I don't buy at that time I get the salesman's name incase I decide to buy later. I've worked commissioned sales before.
 
Seems that there is not a single authorized dealer in Germany? It's a mystery to me....
 
Confirmation for German customers: I called Harman Deutschland and I was told, that there are no authorized dealers for the brand (Hell, I had to literally SPELL the name "Revel" to the call center agent :oops:).

I really don't understand their business politics: at least they abandone a market of nearly 85 million people...

They opened a ticket and I should receive a call from someone who can explain this or even better who knows a way to purchase Revel speakers out here in the dessert :facepalm:
 
We can all talk about support your local dealer and negotiation, etc. But help me understand something. The topic here is Revel. I live in the Seattle area. According to Revel's dealer locator there are 8 dealers in the area. But every single one of those, when looking at their websites, is a systems designer/installer. Unless I am seriously mistaken, not one of those is a store I can walk into and buy a product (I haven't tried to visit every one of them). So effectively there are no bricks and mortar Revel locations within 200 miles of here (and probably a lot further). And Seattle ain't exactly Podunck, Iowa (sorry, Iowa).
Vegas is the same. 5 dealers, not one carries the products in the store. Closest store is in Phoenix, 300 miles away! Vegas may not be Podunck... but it is a vast wasteland for 2 channel Hi Fi. Anyone that has been to Vegas recently knows that snake oil is the city's life blood... in Hi Fi... and everything else sadly. The days of a good bet are long gone forever. Do we have an answer as to where we can find the Be line on sale?
 
I spoke to my dealer where I just bought my Salons and he doesn't know anything about the Be sale.
 
Vegas is the same. 5 dealers, not one carries the products in the store. Closest store is in Phoenix, 300 miles away! Vegas may not be Podunck... but it is a vast wasteland for 2 channel Hi Fi. Anyone that has been to Vegas recently knows that snake oil is the city's life blood... in Hi Fi... and everything else sadly. The days of a good bet are long gone forever. Do we have an answer as to where we can find the Be line on sale?
So this is a pattern? If Seattle and Las Vegas (besides Germany...) don't have dealers who display and sell Revel anymore: is this brand going to die?
 
Confirmation for German customers: I called Harman Deutschland and I was told, that there are no authorized dealers for the brand (Hell, I had to literally SPELL the name "Revel" to the call center agent :oops:).

I really don't understand their business politics: at least they abandone a market of nearly 85 million people...

They opened a ticket and I should receive a call from someone who can explain this or even better who knows a way to purchase Revel speakers out here in the dessert :facepalm:
Harman UK only sells M16 through dealers, nothing else. I was told by them they don’t even do that anywhere else in Europe. I bought my Salon2 pair via a friend in LA and imported myself.
 
I happen to have a Revel dealer 800 meters from my home, but otherwise, the Revel dealers seem far apart in my country.

My dealer seems to have most of the things Revel has in their product line, but at this point, there’s no 25% deals on the Be series.
 
I agree. At the least go back to that dealer and confirm and clarify the price for the stuff. Give them a chance to meet or beat your lowest price quote.
If you go to a dealer to physically touch, see and hear any gear, you should ALWAYS give that dealer an opportunity to give you their best price. Anything else is simply no cool.

But, if that dealer's price is not competitive, I personally have no issues walking, it's not my job nor my moral responsibility at MY financial burden to support the livelihood of uncompetitive local businesses.

There is a dealer by my house, while they don't have the absolute lowest price, but it's maybe only 5% more than the best price I can find, I still buy from them because they took the time out to demo a product and let me sit there for hours and they shoot the breeze with me.

On the other hand, there was this one dealer with a huge online presence that caters to the "soccer dads" and "newbies" (I did not know that in advance), I went there to audition a pair of speakers and then I was ready to buy and said, "let's work on the numbers," they looked at me confused and said "what do you mean, we told you how much these speakers cost," I looked at them confused and said "you told me the MSRP, I meant lets work on the numbers now, because I am ready to buy." We stared at each other for 5 seconds or so and then they go "Oh, we are not that kind of store, we don't discount our merchandise because we are confident in the service we provide, etc." and proceeds to lecture me on why I should not ask nor expect any discounts, it was a total guilt trip. All the meanwhile, I already spoke to another dealer who offer me a 25% discount but I was still shopping around for the best deal. Needless to say, I walked. But now I know that that dealer aren't competitive, I won't go to their showroom again so that I am not that guy who go into people's showroom knowing I won't buy from them.
 
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Are these sales only in B&M stores? Not seeing sales on online retailers.
 
It is actually a great deal because the dealer is also getting a discount on their cost. So whatever discount you negotiated before, you can negotiate on the new cost basis. Maybe not quite as much since there isn't as many dollars involved but definitely a great deal and better than before.
If the dealer will apply the dealer discount on top of the manufacturer discount, then yes, absolutely that is a GREAT deal. Which implies all those who are thinking about buying the Be line need to make sure you get >25% deal.
 
I already spoke to another dealer who offer me a 25% discount but I was still shopping around for the best deal.
I've given/gave discounts on speakers all the time back in the day. My goal was to avoid price protection during and after sales. So I dickered with the customers all the time and gave them the minimum sale price that I knew would be a dollar or two from the occurring every 3 months sale prices. It was enough I think and to take more would have been being greedy. I ran about 34% to 35%+ margins at the end of the year(s) and set the record for highest average profit margins for the chain. I think that's fair to all involved but to expect full pop on all the gear is not realistic in my opinion. The expense of operating a large business like that and purchasing the property etc I suspect ran into the high 20% range. So a few percent of profit for the house is all that was left. But it's big business and like I said that is owning the property. 25% discount on speakers is veryy good.
 
"you told me the MSRP, I meant lets work on the numbers now, because I am ready to buy." We stared at each other for 5 seconds or so and then they go "Oh, we are not that kind of store, we don't discount our merchandise because we are confident in the service we provide, etc." and proceeds to lecture me on why I should not ask nor expect any discounts, it was a total guilt trip. All the meanwhile, I already spoke to another dealer who offer me a 25% discount but I was still shopping around for the best deal. Needless to say, I walked. But now I know that that dealer aren't competitive, I won't go to their showroom again so that I am not that guy who go into people's showroom knowing I won't buy from them.
MSRP is one of the main reasons I eventually went online (Internet Direct) and then DIY. MSRP basically = sucker tax. Just a good way to scam an unaware customer. If that's any part of your business model, why would anyone want to shop at your store?! Besides, what's the real price? Fair price for the business and customer? Is it 5% off? 15% off? 30% off? Why is it complicated to know the price of the item? So they have an opportunity to rip off everyone to some extent? Internet Direct; they have the same prices for everyone. Seems fair and simple right? Why is scamming part of B&M model? :facepalm:

If you're gonna do 20% off MSRP for everyone, why not just put that price on the item instead of just MSRP? Many stores do this, it's better than no price, but if some customers get to negociate and get better deals... I don't know, just in retail, I do not know of many businesses using such sales techniques, besides car dealers and flea markets, and even flea markets advertise 'real' prices and not inflated MSRP..
 
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