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Resolve's B&K 5128 Headphone Target - you can try the EQ's.....

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I've been criticizing Harman IE for years as an ASR member. I guess I must be on Hps.com payroll by the logic of some participants in this thread, which is worse than taking sides, because one is a personal choice, the other is an ad hominem-just someone lacking any argument. Back to discussing BK5128 please, I can only be so embarrassed on behalf of others.
 
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I understood he had one of the first 5128 that were made. (Not a twitter person so no idea what the tweet stated)
 

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I understood he had one of the first 5128 that were made. (Not a twitter person so no idea what the tweet stated)
Maybe he had one borrowed temporarily, but looks like now he has one permanently. And he writes "I would say at least moving forward you will see more headphone measurements from me made on the 5128 -- maybe plotted with the HARMAN Target Curve for 5128 :)".
 

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I don't know how you stretch the price to $74K. That is nearly 2X the retail of the full HATs. Does he say what it is?

I guess that as Sean lives in Canada then it’s Canadian $
 

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Maybe he had one borrowed temporarily, but looks like now he has one permanently.
Nope he had one permanently from not long after they released it. And despite that in all this time Harman haven't managed to produce from it any improvement on their research and target based on GRAS rigs.
 
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I figure you’d better inform him it’s a pointless/useless vanity device and to send it back.
 

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I guess that as Sean lives in Canada then it’s Canadian $
He lives in southern California. It is Dr. Toole who has not gone back to his home land of Canada.
 

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He lives in southern California. It is Dr. Toole who has not gone back to his home land of Canada.
Presumably then there is other equipment involved in that order.

Clearly something or someone has brought Dr Olive back to the 5128 though. That he’s tweeted it’s arrival is quite tbe public statement.
 
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Maybe he had one borrowed temporarily, but looks like now he has one permanently. And he writes "I would say at least moving forward you will see more headphone measurements from me made on the 5128 -- maybe plotted with the HARMAN Target Curve for 5128 :)".
When he says "Harman Target Curve for 5128", I'm assuming he's referring to the quick & dirty curve they created (by measuring a few headphones on GRAS & then measuring them on 5128 and then creating a conversion curve from that). It would be cool if they'd been stealthily doing some significant 5128 studies since then, and now have some kind of bonafide Harman Target for the 5128, but I doubt it quite a lot.
 

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I am also curious what they are going forward with.

Some possibilities:

A: Just play the GRAS IE curve on 5128 and call it a day.

B. Run another preference test with multiple subjects using 5128, see if the new curve predicts preference better than the former GRAS curve, and if so, adopt it as 2023 IE curve for 5128 (hopefully public).

C. Take the HATS and a great measuring speaker like F328Be to different rooms, measure it, and call it the new convergent curve. Personally I am strongly in favor of this one to converge both worlds, speakers and OE/IE.
 
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I am also curious what they are going forward with.

Some possibilities:

A: Just play the GRAS IE curve on 5128 and call it a day.

B. Run another preference test with multiple subjects using 5128, see if the new curve predicts preference better than the former GRAS curve, and if so, adopt it as 2023 IE curve for 5128 (hopefully public).

C. Take the HATS and a great measuring speaker like F328Be to different rooms, measure it, and call it the new convergent curve. Personally I am strongly in favor of this one to converge both worlds, speakers and OE/IE.
Hopefully they have some big plans for it in terms of creating a proper target curve for it. The fact he has bought one at some considerable expense leads me to believe there must be a pretty significant reason for that.

EDIT: I don't use Twitter, so if there are members reading this that have Twitter then feel free to post up anything that Sean Olive does with B&K 5128 over the coming days/weeks/months, etc.
 
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Some more insights.

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Albeit that's back in mid June, where the bottom conversation is regarding him taking delivery of the 5128 that he has now received. The top conversation is more interesting - so he's saying they've still got the quick & dirty Harman 5128 Target they created months/years ago, but instead they are likely to just do work on the IE Target in terms of 5128......so it seems that they're not gonna do anymore work on an OE Harman 5128 Target, that's a little disappointing to me as I'm not that interested in IEM's.
 

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Maybe that interview with Crinacle praising the OE/AE target and criticizing the IE target gave him motivation to redo IEMs better this time.
 
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