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Recommendations for Cheap Speakers for Auro 3d (surround and elevation speakers)?

theshade

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I currently use 8030c. I also have energy c-3 which had great measurements for its time and an infinity 3 way as center speaker. I am planning on doing an auro 3d setup. Ideally, I could get 6 8030c's or neumann 6 kh80's for surrounds and elevation speakers. Practically I think it would be better to get lower priced speakers as surrounds and surrounds height and use my existing energy as front heights.

I plan on doing a nearfield setup to minimize spl problems and lower the cost of entry like in the nearfield setup below.
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I have narrowed them down to the following:

1. Adam t5v
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Pros: $288.61 each here or $1731.66 for 6 speakers. Could get somewhat loud. Easier to deal with the high frequency boost as it has dip switches that could tackle that boost.
Cons: No mounting options. Would have to get generic options. Need to drill the speakers?

2. Pioneer dj vm 50
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Pros: Even cheaper at $200 each or $1200 for 6 speakers. Erin recommended this over the jbl 305's.
Cons: No mounting options. Would have to get generic options. Need to drill the speakers?

3. Neumann Kh-80s.
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Pros: Can use as is no eq needed, mounting options easier to swallow than genelecs.
Cons: Expensive at $585.54 each $3513.24 for 6 speakers. Spl limitations

4. Sell body parts to get Genelec 8030c's :facepalm:
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Pros: Similar speakers all around, Great spins
Cons: Very expensive at $798.09 each or $4788.54 for 6 speakers, mounting options are also very pricey.

Can also use this as mount if I don't do separate ceiling mounted.
https://www.thomannmusic.com/gravity_ls_331_b.htm

Stole the idea from Sancus and tried to find something cheaper. Thanks again Sancus.

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I can also use my energy c-3 as surrounds or front heights so I would just need 4 speakers.
energy 15 to 30 deg:
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energy 40, 60 and 75 deg:
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What do you guys think are more important? Front height vs surround bed layer?

Any other recommendations? Thanks!
 
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theshade

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Passive Solutions

1. Polk r200
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Price: $370.875 each or $2225.25 for 6 speakers

2. Elac DBR-62
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Price: $340.90 or $2045.4 for 6 speakers

3. Elac Debut B6.2
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Price: $196.02 each or $1176.12 for 6 speakers

4. Pioneer SP BS22 LR
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Price: $110.19 each or $661.14 for 6 speakers

It seems that the pioneer SP BS22 LR is the most cost effective for the money with acceptable spins. The Adam t5v also looks like a good buy for the active segment given that its frequency response problems could probably be taken care of by the dip switches. Or to hell with saving some money and go all genelec 8030c's or neumann kh80s? I am worried that the elevation and surround speakers would not be active enough and money could be better spent elsewhere.

What do you guys think? Any other recommendations? Genelec 8020d? Genelec 8010a? Thanks.
 
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Don't forget, official Neumann mounts are pricey as well. Because you're using a receiver, I think used KH120s for about same price would be better since you won't need DSP.

I'm not familiar with Energy nor have I been able to get a straight answer on how important "tonal matching" is for surround/height but depending on your mounting options and available height-level real estate, Neumi seems to be most cost effective:

https://www.erinsaudiocorner.com/loudspeakers/neumi_bs5p_take2/

I'd you've never done it before, you may be shocked at how little sound actually comes out of height/surround during upmixing so I suggest starting as cheap as possible although I do agree the "tonal matching" concept is probably relevant for front heights.
 

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I have nothing useful to add, because I just use a basic Q Acoustics surround setup, but omg that Genelec surround rig you posted is insane. A boy can dream... Sigh.
 
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Are you driving them from an AVR or SSP? If the latter, do you already have amps?

What are the aesthetic concerns?
Avr. No aesthetic concerns. They may be as ugly or beautiful as you like. Thanks
 
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I have nothing useful to add, because I just use a basic Q Acoustics surround setup, but omg that Genelec surround rig you posted is insane. A boy can dream... Sigh.
Yeah one can dream right. :)
 
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What did you decide on?
An oculus quest 2 with a lot of games! Decided to wait for a review here of dirac receivers like pioneer or onkyo before i pull the trigger. Though i havent decided on which speakers to get.
 

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Used KEF KHT3001 5.1 set or even better KHT3001SE. What you will find useful are the satellites for surround duty (3001 & 3001SE) Will be cheap and measure quite flat plus excellent directivity and placement flexibility due to the included dual fixing support (self standing or wall mounted, tilt and angle adjustment).

The “SE” edition includes the technologies that later ended up being the Blades, stiffened midrange with liquid polymer ribs (very low distortion) and the very first KEF speaker to sport the “tangerine waveguide”. Rounded solid aluminum cabinet and downfiring port assures you resonance free, and the concave vessel plus Uni-Q assures you diffraction free speaker.
 
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