Recommendation for a $3-4k bookshelf speaker (upgrade from Ascilabs C6B)

[LiveTek]

LOL, yeah I kind of know about diminishing returns. "Sounds $680 better" has no meaning because sound isn't measured in dollars. You probably meant "the additional marginal utility you get from a marginal increase in expenditures of $680 on tweeters isn't as high as the increase in marginal utility you receive from spending an additional $680 on other goods or services."

Diminish returns is about production (supply side) and diminishing marginal utility is demand side.

LOL, yeah I kind of know about diminishing returns. "Sounds $680 better" has no meaning because sound isn't measured in dollars. You probably meant "the additional marginal utility you get from a marginal increase in expenditures of $680 on tweeters isn't as high as the increase in marginal utility you receive from spending an additional $680 on other goods or services."

Diminish returns is about production (supply side) and diminishing marginal utility is demand side.

It does not appear that you do. This is not complicated. You have two drivers that both render their passbands effectively to an ideal degree, one costs $60 and the other over $700. For me, no further investigation is needed to determine which is the better option. I suppose one could just desire the higher priced tweeter because it costs more, but boy that's pretty shallow.

Take care.

 

[a4eaudio]

....I truly wonder what anyone even expects from a "better" tweeter.

For me, no further investigation is needed to determine which is the better option.

You seem quite contradicted. Either you "truly wonder" or "no further investigation is needed".
My response was to your original claim that you "truly wondered" what anyone expected from a better tweeter.

 

[LiveTek]

You seem quite contradicted. Either you "truly wonder" or "no further investigation is needed".
My response was to your original claim that you "truly wondered" what anyone expected from a better tweeter.

You are just not getting it. I didn't contradict myself, you are just misinterpreting what I am saying on a continual basis...

You didn't get my first post there. I was saying the tweeter is already so good, I can't even imagine what someone else might look to improve, because frankly there isn't really anything to improve.

 

[Jonazkur]

Forgot to share... but these could be a nice option @$3500 paired with Purifi woofers

Checkout here

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I have heard these, they sounded good to me.

 

[Luvchampagne]

I have heard these, they sounded good to me.

Looks like a Ascilab c6b but without the custom waveguide. The active one on sale on that website is super interesting.

 

[Mort]

KEF coaxials could give you some of the soundstage you are getting with the horns that might be missing on a 2-way. That might be an upgrade even if it's audible.

It might not sound good to you after years with horns, but wide directivity like the Ascend or Philharmonic Audio is often considered a highly desirable trait. It has a lush, bigger stage but sometimes doesn't deliver the precision required for '3d'. But it sounds so gorgeous it might be worth trying if you can.

 

[daniboun]

I have heard these, they sounded good to me.

Really any feedback ?

 

[Jonazkur]

Really any feedback ?

It was a big open space where i listened them a year ago. They sounded nice and neutral and bass was really good, space was just bad for demos i think.

 

[Jonazkur]

Looks like a Ascilab c6b but without the custom waveguide. The active one on sale on that website is super interesting.

I havent heard the Aalto 3 active version only the passive one and Aalto 9, active version probably even better

 

[xanalog]

I don't think I am the only one to recommend OP:

OTH >> 'You can take a horse to the water but you cannot make him to drink from it'.
(or more accurately ""Hwa is thet mei thet hors wettrien the him self nule drinken")

 

[WillBrink]

If you can wait a few months…

Not only can't you order one, you can't even get on a pre order list to order one.

 

[WillBrink]

Save up a bit for March Audio Sointuva AWG, Ascend Acoustics SIERRA-2EX V2 or Ascend Acoustics Sierra-LX, new Revel

Can't believe those are now closer to 6k (minus shipping?) but no doubt sound great and in my view, 10/10 looks too. Everything just so damn expensive now. Ugh.