Ray Peat

[DVinylfan]

Broscience​

Definition: Broscience is a term to describe fitness and nutrition advice that has little to no basis in science. It’s the gym version of an “Old Wive’s Tale.”

Used in a Sentence: “You don’t need to eat protein right after a workout, that’s just broscience.”

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[antcollinet]

Censoring is not allowing or dismissing challenges to its current findings or theories or principles.

Challenges to current findings have to come in the form of documented and repeatable observations that disprove current hypotheses, or other scientifically valid data. Not from someone simply saying "that is wrong" or "I disagree"

Dismissing groundless challenges is not censorship.

 

[pinger]

Challenges to current findings have to come in the form of documented and repeatable observations that disprove current hypotheses, or other scientifically valid data. Not from someone simply saying "that is wrong" or "I disagree"

Dismissing groundless challenges is not censorship.

Plenty of challenges to current hypotheses with data have been censored. Dont kid yourself. Real science welcomes challenges because when they are disproven it only strengthens their current hypothesis ( for lack of a better term). And also who decides a challenge is groundless?

 

[DVinylfan]

Important pending legislation for UK based Peat diet users

https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3886

 

[xanalog]

Since joining the Ray Peat club a couple weeks ago I have suddenly had an insane amount of energy every day. For some reason I have needed hours of napping every day since last year but not anymore! Also I have put on incredible amount of muscle and am almost bodybuilder status.

gulp!

+7 days.
Can we get an update?
Will we be seeing you and JakePaul in the ring, for 2026?

gulp!

 

[antcollinet]

Plenty of challenges to current hypotheses with data have been censored.

How so - any scientist is free to publish their findings in any way they please. If you mean "rejected by peer review", then that is not censorship, it just shows the underlying science is insufficiently robust.

And also who decides a challenge is groundless?

That is what peer review is for - it is an important part of how science works.

 

[antcollinet]

Important pending legislation for UK based Peat diet users

https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3886

Banning Peat?

Bloody hell, they'll be outlawing Bullshit next.

 

[gwing]

Where do they say that the m stands for modified?

They don't. And neither do I.

You have got it the wrong way around - perhaps reread my post and the referenced Wiki page more carefully?

 

[Sir Sanders Zingmore]

They don't. And neither do I.

You have got it the wrong way around - perhaps reread my post and the referenced Wiki page more carefully?

One of us is confused... I didn't say that you said that, I didn't even quote you???

 

[pinger]

How so - any scientist is free to publish their findings in any way they please. If you mean "rejected by peer review", then that is not censorship, it just shows the underlying science is insufficiently robust.


That is what peer review is for - it is an important part of how science works.

There are plenty of studies etc that are censored ( mostly by govt thru the MSM) . "climate change" for example. Many are peer reviewed. Having said that "peer review" isn't foolproof . If the same corrupt "scientists" peer review a paper its essentially meaningless. And remember when "scientific studies" are funded by govt guess what happens? I'm sure you know. When i say censored i mean discredited or ignored by the media and govt (you know labeled "misinformation" or "conspiracy theory" etc) . Maybe we have a different definition of censorship or are talking about a different type of censorship. I'll leave it there

 

[Sir Sanders Zingmore]

There are plenty of studies etc that are censored ( mostly by govt thru the MSM) . "climate change" for example. Many are peer reviewed. Having said that "peer review" isn't foolproof . If the same corrupt "scientists" peer review a paper its essentially meaningless. And remember when "scientific studies" are funded by govt guess what happens? I'm sure you know. When i say censored i mean discredited or ignored by the media and govt (you know labeled "misinformation" or "conspiracy theory" etc) . Maybe we have a different definition of censorship or are talking about a different type of censorship.

This sounds like a conspiracy theory to me

I'll leave it there

translation ... I'll lob the hand grenade but won't enter into a good faith discussion that might challenge my views

 

[RexrothPigeon]

There are plenty of studies etc that are censored ( mostly by govt thru the MSM) . "climate change" for example. Many are peer reviewed. Having said that "peer review" isn't foolproof . If the same corrupt "scientists" peer review a paper its essentially meaningless. And remember when "scientific studies" are funded by govt guess what happens? I'm sure you know. When i say censored i mean discredited or ignored by the media and govt (you know labeled "misinformation" or "conspiracy theory" etc) . Maybe we have a different definition of censorship or are talking about a different type of censorship. I'll leave it there

Censorship has nothing to do with media reporting. Nobody has any right to have their speech amplified, broadcast, or endorsed.

Censorship is when we are not allowed to speak at all, when the government will imprison or kill or otherwise punish us for our speech.

And you know what? The vast majority of people (including me! probably including you!) oppose truly unrestricted free speech. I think, for example, it should be illegal for someone to post my home address on the internet and say "I'll pay $10k to whoever murders RexrothPigeon," even if they never pay--the crime is the speech, we shouldn't have to wait for the actual murder-for-hire to take place, and I'm ok with that. You can do other thought experiments involving children if that makes it clearer, but just about everyone, if they really think seriously about it, draws the line somewhere.

 

[pinger]

This sounds like a conspiracy theory to me



translation ... I'll lob the hand grenade but won't enter into a good faith discussion that might challenge my views

LOL so your "good faith discussion" is the tired old "conspiracy theory" charge? Nice try . Thanks for proving my point

 

[pinger]

Censorship has nothing to do with media reporting. Nobody has any right to have their speech amplified, broadcast, or endorsed.

Censorship is when we are not allowed to speak at all, when the government will imprison or kill or otherwise punish us for our speech.

And you know what? The vast majority of people (including me! probably including you!) oppose truly unrestricted free speech. I think, for example, it should be illegal for someone to post my home address on the internet and say "I'll pay $10k to whoever murders RexrothPigeon," even if they never pay--the crime is the speech, we shouldn't have to wait for the actual murder-for-hire to take place, and I'm ok with that. You can do other thought experiments involving children if that makes it clearer, but just about everyone, if they really think seriously about it, draws the line somewhere.

Of course there are different levels of censorship. Inciting riots and kiddie porn of course should be censored. But suppressing info that folks could use to make informed decisions isnt that. And the media absolutely does do that

 

[Noske]

There are plenty of studies etc that are censored ( mostly by govt thru the MSM) . "climate change" for example. Many are peer reviewed. Having said that "peer review" isn't foolproof . If the same corrupt "scientists" peer review a paper its essentially meaningless. And remember when "scientific studies" are funded by govt guess what happens? I'm sure you know. When i say censored i mean discredited or ignored by the media and govt (you know labeled "misinformation" or "conspiracy theory" etc) . Maybe we have a different definition of censorship or are talking about a different type of censorship. I'll leave it there

I've seen a few word salads in my short life. This one is quite tasty.

 

[Sir Sanders Zingmore]

LOL so your "good faith discussion" is the tired old "conspiracy theory" charge? Nice try . Thanks for proving my point

my pleasure Q

 

[tineared]

Of course there are different levels of censorship. Inciting riots and kiddie porn of course should be censored. But suppressing info that folks could use to make informed decisions isnt that. And the media absolutely does do that

Tell us how you feel about vaccines

 

[RexrothPigeon]

Of course there are different levels of censorship. Inciting riots and kiddie porn of course should be censored. But suppressing info that folks could use to make informed decisions isnt that. And the media absolutely does do that

No, failing to amplify something is not the same as suppressing it and has zero in common with censorship.

 

[Sir Sanders Zingmore]

Tell us how you feel about vaccines

let's cut straight to the important stuff
@pinger , tell us what you think of power cables and their effect on audio

 

[pinger]

let's cut straight to the important stuff
@pinger , tell us what you think of power cables and their effect on audio

Lol no effect. Since i follow the scientific process feel free to show data that proves otherwise