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Ray Peat
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I think you need to stop looking for conspiracies. And perhaps be slightly less credulous of what you read on line.
which part of that statement is a conspiracy theory...
Experimental...check...they are on an EUA
Synthetic...check...they replaced uridine with methylpseudouridine, which is not naturally occurring (in the pfizer docs the "m" in mRNA stands for modified)
genetic therapy...check...RNA transfection is by definition a gene therapy, they modified the definition of a vax to have it qualify
pushed it on people...check...people lost jobs, were kicked out of the military, etc
What part of the pfizer docs makes you think mRNA stands for modified???? Could you give the quote and source please?
(For info mRNA is a standard abbreviation for Messenger RNA and doesn't have anything to do with modification)
Noske
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The comment contained in post #64 has nothing to do with anything mentioned in this thread. I have read the court document from post #58 including Attachment A and there is no reference to anything contained in posts #60 or #64.
I have no wish to speculate on the logic employed by this scientific enquiry on a thread devoted to a finer and robust appreciation of the Ray Peat diet.
I have no wish to speculate on the logic employed by this scientific enquiry on a thread devoted to a finer and robust appreciation of the Ray Peat diet.
surprisingly they actually say it in the wiki
Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine - Wikipedia
also here
Long‐lasting, biochemically modified mRNA, and its frameshifted recombinant spike proteins in human tissues and circulation after COVID‐19 vaccination - PMC
According to the CDC, both Pfizer and Moderna COVID‐19 vaccines contain nucleoside‐modified messenger RNA (mRNA) encoding the viral spike glycoprotein of severe acute respiratory syndrome caused by corona virus (SARS‐CoV‐2), administered via ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
from the wiki
The Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, sold under the brand name Comirnaty,[2][37] is an mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccine developed by the German biotechnology company BioNTech. For its development, BioNTech collaborated with the American company Pfizer to carry out clinical trials, logistics, and manufacturing.[38][39] It is authorized for use in humans to provide protection against COVID-19, caused by infection with the SARS-CoV-2 virus.[2][40] The vaccine is given by intramuscular injection.[41] It is composed of nucleoside-modified mRNA (modRNA) that encodes a mutated form of the full-length spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which is encapsulated in lipid nanoparticles.[42] Initial guidance recommended a two-dose regimen, given 21 days apart;[41][43][44][45] this interval was subsequently extended to up to 42 days in the United States,[41][46] and up to four months in Canada.[47][48]
post 64 was as response to the comment on post 63, which itself was a response to post 60
Noske
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Pardon me? That is just smelly.
In the meantime you have destroyed the enjoyment of a thread investigating the scientific merits of a diet consisting of saturated fat (butter and coconut oil), huge amounts of pure sugar, hormones, and Vitamin B6 supplements.
Not exactly. The Wiki page is a community maintained document about Phizer not a Phizer authored document so it is "we" that are saying it not "them".
Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
also here
Long‐lasting, biochemically modified mRNA, and its frameshifted recombinant spike proteins in human tissues and circulation after COVID‐19 vaccination - PMC
According to the CDC, both Pfizer and Moderna COVID‐19 vaccines contain nucleoside‐modified messenger RNA (mRNA) encoding the viral spike glycoprotein of severe acute respiratory syndrome caused by corona virus (SARS‐CoV‐2), administered via ...
from the wiki
The Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, sold under the brand name Comirnaty,[2][37] is an mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccine developed by the German biotechnology company BioNTech. For its development, BioNTech collaborated with the American company Pfizer to carry out clinical trials, logistics, and manufacturing.[38][39] It is authorized for use in humans to provide protection against COVID-19, caused by infection with the SARS-CoV-2 virus.[2][40] The vaccine is given by intramuscular injection.[41] It is composed of nucleoside-modified mRNA (modRNA) that encodes a mutated form of the full-length spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which is encapsulated in lipid nanoparticles.[42] Initial guidance recommended a two-dose regimen, given 21 days apart;[41][43][44][45] this interval was subsequently extended to up to 42 days in the United States,[41][46] and up to four months in Canada.[47][48]
Just so. mRNA is an abbreviation for messenger RNA not modified RNA. The article is using the term modRNA for modified mRNA.
I'll leave it at that so we can have fun going back to more conspiracy delusions rather than picking apart the science articles
Although it could be said the the very essence of science is hypothesis and testing of that hypothesis to either disprove it or strengthen it by failing to disprove. So science is continually censoring bad hypotheses as a fundamental principle, but I do agree it's very distinct from propaganda.
Testing a bad hypothesis is not censoring. Censoring is not allowing or dismissing challenges to its current findings or theories or principles. I think we agree
Noske
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That's worse than circular, it's meaningless.
You are forgiven for going on to say (clarifying?) that testing bad hypothesis in not censoring. That is self-evident.
Where do they say that the m stands for modified?
Noske
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How to reconcile these seemingly distinct chains of thought?
Do conspiracy theorists advocate a Ray Peat diet? Or do they eat food?
Maybe no food and no vaccines. Just Breatharianism.
Do conspiracy theorists advocate a Ray Peat diet? Or do they eat food?
Maybe no food and no vaccines. Just Breatharianism.
All I said was that Ray would look to older studies because he thought there was industry capture in the newer research...and I was called a conspiracy theorist...
Pfizer, in collaboration with BioNTech, has released various documents through the FDA and their own channels describing their COVID-19 vaccine (COMIRNATY) as using nucleoside-modified messenger RNA (modRNA), which is explicitly referred to as a type of mRNA. Below is a list of key official documents where this is discussed, including summaries of relevant sections on vaccine composition.1. Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine (2024-2025 Formula) Letter of AuthorizationNot exactly. The Wiki page is a community maintained document about Phizer not a Phizer authored document so it is "we" that are saying it not "them".
Just so. mRNA is an abbreviation for messenger RNA not modified RNA. The article is using the term modRNA for modified mRNA.
I'll leave it at that so we can have fun going back to more conspiracy delusions rather than picking apart the science articles
- Source: FDA document.
- Link: https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download
- Relevant Discussion: The vaccine is described as containing nucleoside-modified messenger RNA (modRNA) encoding the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, with doses specifying amounts like 3 mcg, 10 mcg, or 30 mcg of modRNA per 0.3 mL. It cross-references COMIRNATY as a "COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA," using modRNA and mRNA interchangeably in composition and function descriptions, without distinction.
fda.gov
- Source: FDA document.
- Link: https://www.fda.gov/media/151707/download
- Relevant Discussion: COMIRNATY is a sterile suspension with nucleoside-modified messenger RNA (modRNA) encoding the SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein. Adult doses contain 30 mcg of modRNA, while pediatric doses contain 10 mcg. It is termed "COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA" throughout, with modRNA explicitly called a type of mRNA (e.g., "nucleoside-modified mRNA" or "modRNA/mRNA" in studies and risk summaries). The mechanism explains modRNA as mRNA delivered via lipid nanoparticles for antigen expression.
fda.gov
- Source: FDA document (dated May 10, 2021).
- Link: https://www.fda.gov/media/144412/download
- Relevant Discussion: Each 0.3 mL dose contains 30 mcg of nucleoside-modified messenger RNA (modRNA) encoding the SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein, formulated in lipid particles. modRNA is specified as a form of messenger RNA.
fda.gov
- Source: Pfizer labeling document.
- Link: https://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=15501
- Relevant Discussion: The vaccine includes nucleoside-modified messenger RNA formulated in lipid nanoparticles for delivery into cells. It is consistently referred to as an mRNA vaccine.
labeling.pfizer.com
Noske
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You know that was post #51.
Prior to when you started on the vax stuff which has not been shown to have anything to do with the genius of Ray Peat.
You could have used a more relevant example to do with diet. Don't be disingenuous by labouring the vax angle.
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