Ray Peat

[Deleted member 43957]

Or can you point to his published peer reviewed papers?

I suspect his peers haven't visited earth since the first primordial ooze.

 

[antcollinet]

Again, it's not in your area of interest, don't participate. I don't know why you guys are getting spun up about a discussion....

Because it is anti science being presented as science. It is antithetical to the ethos of this place.

You'll never get away with that here. Whether in on topic or off topic areas of the forum.

 

[gwing]

if it doesn't interest you, don't participate...so why would you care?

Think of it as a kind of civic duty to try to help the deluded.

 

[MAB]

if it doesn't interest you, don't participate...so why would you care?

Peat was an incoherent anti-science conspiracy-theorist. How could I not care?

 

[RexrothPigeon]

Again, it's not in your area of interest, don't participate. I don't know why you guys are getting spun up about a discussion....

It's not your area of authority to police the thread. The OP didn't break any rules by posting it, and we're not breaking any rules by calling it out as anti-science snake oil hokum.

 

[monkeyboy]

It's not your area of authority to police the thread. The OP didn't break any rules by posting it, and we're not breaking any rules by calling it out as anti-science snake oil hokum.

you guys seem pretty worked up, but you never say what you think Ray and the bioenergetic crowd have wrong, and why it would be dangerous?

 

[Beave]

you guys seem pretty worked up, but you never say what you think Ray and the bioenergetic crowd have wrong, and why it would be dangerous?

I think the above-linked rational wiki site covers that better than any post here would..

That link, once again, is https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ray_Peat

 

[monkeyboy]

I think the above-linked rational wiki site covers that better than any post here would..

That link, once again, is https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ray_Peat

wiki?...even the creator of Wikipedia thinks it's full of BS now....now I understand where you are coming from...no further discussion required...

 

[bachatero]

Still cant argue with results, starting around summer last year I suddenly started getting really tired in the afternoon and needed an hour long nap every day and couldn't figure out why. Turns out it was because I was both cutting back majorly on sugar and consuming large amounts of fat, doing so spikes cortisol and plummets the T3 thyroid hormone, didn't know that until I started bioenergetics and I now have energy all day and am absolutely stress-free after going scorched earth with nutrition and exotic supplements (look up 6 keto P4)

 

[xanalog]

Self-control has never been one of my strengths...

Au contraire, mon ami!
I lack that kind of moral fortitude.
My mind/body (like Church/State) have had a non-compete, for far too long. Fortunately, neither has ever let me inside of a gym (membership kind).

 

[monkeyboy]

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ray_Peat

Ray tended to cite older works as he felt the research and publication industry had been captured by the pharma industry...hard to argue with that...

 

[Philbo King]

If you want increased metabolism at the expense of health, methamphetamine has a long-established track record.
/s

 

[Groove01]

I see other threads in Information You Can Use called "Cat News" and "Medicare Advantage" and "Let's Talk About Food"- are those related to audio?

Touché

 

[tineared]

If you want increased metabolism at the expense of health, methamphetamine has a long-established track record.
/s

Where is Mr White when you need him?

 

[Noske]

It's OK. I think that it is best for irregular ideologies be out in the open rather than hidden underground.

It is quite educational for someone like me who had no idea that such crank diets were and are being promoted as being healthy. Maybe I need to visit the US.

edit - Although, growing up, Mum used to serve up fried liver and kidneys occasionally. I vaguely remember it as being rather yummy.

 

[Mort]

Still cant argue with results,

Actually we can, that's the whole point of this thread. Science demands we question causality, something adherents of this snakeoil avoid.

 

[Mort]

Ray tended to cite older works as he felt the research and publication industry had been captured by the pharma industry...hard to argue with that...

Actually it's not. That statement isn't falsifiable, something science demands of it's statements.

 

[monkeyboy]

Actually it's not. That statement isn't falsifiable, something science demands of it's statements.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2001014088982557103

 

[Mort]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2001014088982557103

Bruh. You are in the wrong place for that kind of weak argument.

 

[monkeyboy]

Bruh. You are in the wrong place for that kind of weak argument.

They pushed out an experimental synthetic gene therapy on pregnant women and little kids...how do you think they were able to do that so easily...they have been doing it for decades....