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[Thomas savage]

I noticed some farting coming from a woofer, I investigated and felt a breeze in my face then had a feel of the surround for delaminated areas.. Found this. Was listening to infected mushroom at 11oclock on the volume dial

Any recommendations regarding types of glue?

 

[Purité Audio]

Are these the woofers that were just recently replaced?
Keith

 

[Blumlein 88]

Duct tape will fix that right up.

 

[RayDunzl]

What happened to the Elacs?

 

[Blumlein 88]

Well if duct tape isn't good enough, you can try glue from here:

http://www.simplyspeakers.com/speaker-repair-adhesives.html

http://www.parts-express.com/black-rubber-cement-speaker-repair-glue-1-oz-bottle--340-078

Some people also report success with Aleene's Tacky Glue. You should be able to get it at Walmarts or any craft or art store.

 

[amirm]

Not much glue there to begin with. Is this the Elac driver Thomas?

 

[amirm]

Oh wait... The title is "Vivid hell." Unbelievable for such a high priced speaker....

 

[Thomas savage]

What happened to the Elacs?

I still have them

 

[Thomas savage]

Are these the woofers that were just recently replaced?
Keith

Yes

 

[fas42]

So, why did you switch back to the Vivids?

 

[Thomas savage]

So, why did you switch back to the Vivids?

Err, I don't know Frank ... Possibly because they are a superior loudspeaker.

I bought a pair of Elac b6's to tide me over while my vivids were being repaired.

 

[Thomas savage]

I bought ( from Amazon and not arrived yet) http://uk.gorillaglue.com/gorilla-super-glue-gel.

It's flexible adisive, anyone think that's a bad idea?

Iv used it before, sticking vivid drivers back together but on a bass/mid on my vivid B1 and the mid range on my G3. So not on these bass drivers .

Is there a reason drivers delaminate like this ? Iv never had a issue with any other brand of speaker other than vivid but maybe I'm doing something wrong?

I was listening to EDM at peaks of 94 db on my sound meter.. No obvious sign of stress sound wise came from the driver before it started farting.

 

[amirm]

The regular Gorilla glue foams and needs moisture to cure (so you have to wet one surface). Not sure about their superglue. Make sure you wear gloves as Gorilla glue can stain your hands pretty bad.

 

[Blumlein 88]

I bought ( from Amazon and not arrived yet) http://uk.gorillaglue.com/gorilla-super-glue-gel.

It's flexible adisive, anyone think that's a bad idea?

Iv used it before, sticking vivid drivers back together but on a bass/mid on my vivid B1 and the mid range on my G3. So not on these bass drivers .

Is there a reason drivers delaminate like this ? Iv never had a issue with any other brand of speaker other than vivid but maybe I'm doing something wrong?

I was listening to EDM at peaks of 94 db on my sound meter.. No obvious sign of stress sound wise came from the driver before it started farting.

I don't think anything you have done has abused the glue joint. Just looks like too little was used to me.

I would vote against what you ordered because of this:

Gorilla Super Glue Gel is a cyanoacrylate adhesive,

Basically a gel super glue. Super glues are usually not flexible. You can look at some DIY speaker forums. Usually a more flexible glue is suggested.

https://www.michaels.com/aleenes-original-tacky-glue/M10614859.html

Aleene's Tacky glue is for foam, paper, rubber, etc. Should work for what you need. Water clean up is good too. Or one of the others I linked to previously.

People have used super glue succesfully too, but it being inflexible is a minus in this situation.

Some materials are put together with two part epoxy. DIYers report good success with this:
https://www.amazon.com/Speaker-Repa...484973429&sr=8-7&keywords=speaker+repair+glue

Looking at your picture it is hard to tell. If the glue is mostly transparent as it appears, it most likely is epoxy. Rubber based would be black.

Considering the cost of the speaker, it might be worth calling the maker or the manufacturer of the woofer and asking what glue they use. They might even send you some.

 

[Thomas savage]

The regular Gorilla glue foams and needs moisture to cure (so you have to wet one surface). Not sure about their superglue. Make sure you wear gloves as Gorilla glue can stain your hands pretty bad.

Yea iv used their regular glue too , I was thinking a 'flexible ' adisive would work well and being a gel it should not drip ( stays where it's put) .

I used to use ( back when I worked really hard) superglue to stick the splits in my fingers back together and reinforce my nails and fingers that got worn away from various work disciplines

For nails superglue and toilet paper layered up and filed down works a treat, good for flamenco guitar too

 

[Blumlein 88]

Yea iv used there regular glue too , I was thinking a 'flexible ' adisive would work well and being a gel it should not drip ( stays where it's put) .

I used to use ( back when I worked really hard) superglue to stick the splits in my fingers back together and reinforce my nails and fingers that got worn away from various work disciplines

For nails superglue and toilet paper layered up and filed down works a treat, good for flamenco guitar too

Some how that last part sounds potentially kinky.

 

[Thomas savage]

Yea I contacted vivid (the response came after I started this thread and after I bought the gorilla gel 'flexible ' superglue) , they recommended a gel superglue .

I can't take the driver out, so can't brace the joint for a period of time hence my reluctance to use a slow ( er) setting glue.

 

[Thomas savage]

Some how that last part sounds potentially kinky.

Well having your finger prints worn out and being left with bleeding stubs where they once were ... Some might pay for that and get a kick out of it. I got it for free , I'm so lucky..

To the male mind just about anything could be potentially kinky

 

[Blumlein 88]

Yea I contacted vivid (the response came after I started this thread and after I bought the gorilla gel 'flexible ' superglue) , they recommended a gel superglue .

I can't take the driver out, so can't brace the joint for a period of time hence my reluctance to use a slow ( er) setting glue.

I am surprised they recommended a gel super glue, but since they did I would use what you ordered.

As for Amir mentioning the Gorilla glue original foams and cures with water, he is right. It expands enough to sometimes cause issues with precise fit. The Gorilla superglue gel doesn't however. I have used both just not on speaker cones.

 

[Thomas savage]

I am surprised they recommended a gel super glue, but since they did I would use what you ordered.

As for Amir mentioning the Gorilla glue original foams and cures with water, he is right. It expands enough to sometimes cause issues with precise fit. The Gorilla superglue gel doesn't however. I have used both just not on speaker cones.

Are those glues you mentioned 'fast acting' ? Ie can I hold it in place with my hand or are they longer setting ( curing) compounds?