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Radiant Acoustics Clarity 66

I think it should be noted, that there's a lot of different rooms and setup variations playing a role here too. And wider tweeter radiations can sound brighter sometimes - even elevated - when in fact it might just be a reflective room pointing more of the wider tweeters energy towards the listerner.
I once tried the Seas DXT vs the Bliesma T34B, where on-axis was flat on both, but the Seas DXT definitely had the advantage in a much more precise imaging, whereas the Bliesma radiated the energy all over the place, creating a diffuse sound which could be experienced as elevated too.

So I believe there's more than one thing at play here. This tweeter might sound elevated compared to others, even though a simple on axis do not show this.
But cool that they included a user manual to get the best of it.
The manufacturer addressed my comment earlier in the thread and I acknowledged that my thoughts were somewhat unfounded.

My take is that the design is primarily about accuracy but with a very minor tilt toward HF emphasis that will appeal to audiophiles who appreciate that and what it can do to make imaging more dramatic. The directivity compromise (which might not be a compromise for some setups) in the vertical axis gives huge benefits in terms of power handling and distortion.
 
Hello @henz , what is the inner diameter of the bass reflex port? I'm worried my cats head could go through it :)
Also, any chanse of Erin's review any time soon?
 
Hello @henz , what is the inner diameter of the bass reflex port? I'm worried my cats head could go through it :)
Also, any chanse of Erin's review any time soon?
The smallest diameter is 73mm... So depending on how chunky your cat is, I think its head could fit! It might impact performance just a little bit, but perhaps cover it with a net of some kind...

I believe Erin will receive the speakers we brought to Axpona, so finger's crossed he will have a review soon!
 
The smallest diameter is 73mm... So depending on how chunky your cat is, I think its head could fit! It might impact performance just a little bit, but perhaps cover it with a net of some kind...

I believe Erin will receive the speakers we brought to Axpona, so finger's crossed he will have a review soon!
Yeah, one of my cats head is smaller than 73mm, I measured him yesterday :/ :)
If there is no problem with getting the port out, then I guess I can attatch some net to it.

Thanks for the responses!
 
worst case you can unscrew the port and extract the poor cat
Congratulations on these speakers. I had wondered why a Purifi tweeter wasn't used, but you answered that already... it wasn't available for this design cycle.

1. Where are the distortion specs for the speaker?
2. What is the estimated in-room frequency response?
3. Do the speakers have optional grills?
4. Do you plan to produce a Clarity 88, for true 20Hz or lower response...using your Purifi tweeter?

Thx!
 
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I agree. Hiding the screws/bolts is a good move.

Should be compulsory.

On the 4.2, 6.2 and now the new speaker, it’s what helps make them so clean looking.

Which is why I don’t understand the grooves part.

Again, it’s personal taste; but it looks like a tall stand mount on a crap stand.
Could be to help break the sound from the speaker.
Dahlquist used a 3M flocking material on the front panel to great effect back in the late 1980's.
I have had mine in use since 1990.
My DQ 905's (semi-anechoic) are +-2 DB from 26 Hz-20 KHz (without EQ of any type) and I'm still using 4 of them and 2 custom DYI subs for 20 Hz-80 Hz.:

From HiFi Classic:
Dahlquist refers to the cabinet of the M-905 as an “Un-box” enclosure, likening its construction to that of a violin. The wall panels are of varying thickness, and there is special internal damping and bracing designed to suit the individual characteristics of the drivers in the system, all to minimize coloration of the sound by the box. The front panel is coated with a black flocking material whose thousands of fibers are electrostatically aligned perpendicular to its surface during application. The flocking and the flush-mounting of the tweeter are said to minimize diffraction from front-panel discontinuities, preserving image focus.

Lab Tests

Preliminary listening tests of the Dahlquist M-905 speakers—in-stalled on the ST-9 stands, as recommended—revealed a very wide-range and balanced sound whose smoothness and lack of coloration were far beyond what we would have expected from speakers in their price range. In fact, the sound from the M-905’s would be more than acceptable at several times the price. In view of this, we were not too surprised to find that with respect to flatness and freedom from peaks and holes the measured room response was among the best we have encountered.

The close-miked woofer (and port) response was also considerably flatter than we have measured from most speakers, with a very small bass-resonance peak. At the system resonance of 60 Hz, the output was only about 2 dB above its average level in the upper part of the woofer’s range, and even that minor output variation was spread over almost two octaves. When the bass curve was spliced to the room-response measurement, the resulting composite frequency response was flat within about ±2 dB from 26 to 20,000 Hz. The horizontal directivity of the tweeter was only discernible in the room measurement above 10,000 Hz.

We measured the sensitivity of the M-905 as 87 dB SPL, which was lower than the rated 91 dB but still about average for speakers of its size. The difference may have been a result of different test conditions since we used a full-range pink-noise signal while Dahlquist’s rating was made at 1,000 Hz. The system’s minimum impedance was about 4.8 ohms in the 8,000- to 10,000-Hz region, and it measured 7 ohms at 150 to 200 Hz. Its maximum impedance was 28 ohms at 60 Hz, and there was a broad peak of 18 ohms in the vicinity of 1,500 Hz.

We measured the woofer’s distortion with a 4-volt drive level, corresponding to a 90-dB SPL at 1 meter. The distortion was less than 1 percent from 100 Hz down to almost 60 Hz, the effective crossover to the port. Below that crossover the distortion rose to 5 percent at 45 Hz and 9 percent at 35 Hz. In high-power tests with single-cycle tone bursts, the woofer began to sound “hard” at about 350 watts into its 8.5-ohm impedance at 100 Hz. At higher frequencies the amplifier clipped—at outputs of 490 watts at 1.000 Hz and 1,380 watts at 10,000 Hz—before distortion became visible on the acoustic waveform.

Quasi-anechoic FFT measurements showed an overall group-delay variation of about 0.1 millisecond between 4,000 and 20,000 Hz and 0.5 ms between 1,000 and 20.000 Hz, convincing evidence of the attention paid to the phase characteristics of the M-905.
 
Congratulations on these speakers. I had wondered why a Purifi tweeter wasn't used, but you answered that already... it wasn't available for this design cycle.

1. Where are the distortion specs for the speaker?
2. What is the estimated in-room frequency response?
3. Do the speakers have optional grills?
4. Do you plan to produce a Clarity 88, for true 20Hz or lower response...using your Purifi tweeter?

Thx!
There is a horisontal polar in the deep dive. I am not a fan of PIR. There is currently no grill option.

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I do wonder if there’s anything to be gained from using these as opposed to the 6.2s and a pair of Subwoofers properly DSP’d together.

In my case using Lyngdorfs RP.

I’d quite like to see a comparison, unlikely as that might be.
I have been so fortunate to hear the 6.2 and the new 66 in a side by side AB comparison, in Morten Stjernholms listening room. And I can confirm that the Clarity 66(6) is a totally different beast ;). I started the listening session blindfolded and it would be obvious to listen for differences in the deep bass, but to my surprise I had a hard time hearing much difference between the two, in terms of low reach and slam, but there were some differences in articulation and detail. I later had to discover that Morten had played a little trick on me, more about that later. What I heard was that the 6.2's had a much smaller soundstage and was a bit nasal in comparison to the 66. On contrast the 66's had extreme clarity (more treble energy?) and presented all music genres with purity and comfortable ease. Soundstage is HUGE, clear and well defined. The interesting thing is, that its the same AMT tweeter/waveguide and almost the same bass driver (66 is aluminium) yet the contrast was so big. I can wholehearted recommend that you give the Clarity 66 a listen, I think you will be impressed of what it can offer sound wise, I know I was.

And the trick Morten pulled on me, he had high passed the 6.2 at 80 hz and let two active 12" subs do the heavy lifting and still I preferred the bass qualities from the 66's, that should speak volumes.
 
I have been so fortunate to hear the 6.2 and the new 66 in a side by side AB comparison, in Morten Stjernholms listening room. And I can confirm that the Clarity 66(6) is a totally different beast ;). I started the listening session blindfolded and it would be obvious to listen for differences in the deep bass, but to my surprise I had a hard time hearing much difference between the two, in terms of low reach and slam, but there were some differences in articulation and detail. I later had to discover that Morten had played a little trick on me, more about that later. What I heard was that the 6.2's had a much smaller soundstage and was a bit nasal in comparison to the 66. On contrast the 66's had extreme clarity (more treble energy?) and presented all music genres with purity and comfortable ease. Soundstage is HUGE, clear and well defined. The interesting thing is, that its the same AMT tweeter/waveguide and almost the same bass driver (66 is aluminium) yet the contrast was so big. I can wholehearted recommend that you give the Clarity 66 a listen, I think you will be impressed of what it can offer sound wise, I know I was.

And the trick Morten pulled on me, he had high passed the 6.2 at 80 hz and let two active 12" subs do the heavy lifting and still I preferred the bass qualities from the 66's, that should speak volumes.

With a design gang including Lars Risbo, and the team responsible for the remarkable new drivers I’m not the least surprised that they are superb.

I’d be astonished at anything else. They’ve set themselves a high bar. And at an exceptional price.

And I do massively prefer floor standers to standmounts every time.

But, unless extra cash falls from the sky I’ll be forced to buy the SPK16 kit.

Which I’m sure is going to be quite absurdly good even for twice and more the price.
 
I have been so fortunate to hear the 6.2 and the new 66 in a side by side AB comparison, in Morten Stjernholms listening room. And I can confirm that the Clarity 66(6) is a totally different beast ;). I started the listening session blindfolded and it would be obvious to listen for differences in the deep bass, but to my surprise I had a hard time hearing much difference between the two, in terms of low reach and slam, but there were some differences in articulation and detail. I later had to discover that Morten had played a little trick on me, more about that later. What I heard was that the 6.2's had a much smaller soundstage and was a bit nasal in comparison to the 66. On contrast the 66's had extreme clarity (more treble energy?) and presented all music genres with purity and comfortable ease. Soundstage is HUGE, clear and well defined. The interesting thing is, that its the same AMT tweeter/waveguide and almost the same bass driver (66 is aluminium) yet the contrast was so big. I can wholehearted recommend that you give the Clarity 66 a listen, I think you will be impressed of what it can offer sound wise, I know I was.

And the trick Morten pulled on me, he had high passed the 6.2 at 80 hz and let two active 12" subs do the heavy lifting and still I preferred the bass qualities from the 66's, that should speak volumes.
I visited Stjernholm yesterday and got the same treat (except the blindfolding). I would agree with your impressions. Quite interesting.

cheers

Lars
 
I have been so fortunate to hear the 6.2 and the new 66 in a side by side AB comparison, in Morten Stjernholms listening room. And I can confirm that the Clarity 66(6) is a totally different beast ;). I started the listening session blindfolded and it would be obvious to listen for differences in the deep bass, but to my surprise I had a hard time hearing much difference between the two, in terms of low reach and slam, but there were some differences in articulation and detail. I later had to discover that Morten had played a little trick on me, more about that later. What I heard was that the 6.2's had a much smaller soundstage and was a bit nasal in comparison to the 66. On contrast the 66's had extreme clarity (more treble energy?) and presented all music genres with purity and comfortable ease. Soundstage is HUGE, clear and well defined. The interesting thing is, that its the same AMT tweeter/waveguide and almost the same bass driver (66 is aluminium) yet the contrast was so big. I can wholehearted recommend that you give the Clarity 66 a listen, I think you will be impressed of what it can offer sound wise, I know I was.

And the trick Morten pulled on me, he had high passed the 6.2 at 80 hz and let two active 12" subs do the heavy lifting and still I preferred the bass qualities from the 66's, that should speak volumes.
Does it mean we're gonna get a review soon?
 
Think I’ll have to see that.

Has anyone saw or read a review on these yet? Damned if I can find anything.


But they do have the New Purifi tweeter and don’t have the daft wavy bit of the 66s…

I’m intrigued.
 
But they do have the New Purifi tweeter and don’t have the daft wavy bit of the 66s…
I could be wrong before and it's something that I'm good at it, my wife tells me) but I think that the wavy bit on the 66's is to help eliminate the (Ok, hear we go again): supposed 'boxiness' of the bass that some people say they can hear. Or, maybe, it's just to break up a non-descript visual area of the speaker.
Either way, I kinda' like it. But, for me, it's a moot point anyway, can't buy any at the moment, (although I would like to).
 
I could be wrong before and it's something that I'm good at it, my wife tells me) but I think that the wavy bit on the 66's is to help eliminate the (Ok, hear we go again): supposed 'boxiness' of the bass that some people say they can hear. Or, maybe, it's just to break up a non-descript visual area of the speaker.
Either way, I kinda' like it. But, for me, it's a moot point anyway, can't buy any at the moment, (although I would like to).
I’d love to say it has any acoustic advantages but… it’s just a design choice, really :)
At least as far as we know!
 
Think I’ll have to see that.

Has anyone saw or read a review on these yet? Damned if I can find anything.


But they do have the New Purifi tweeter and don’t have the daft wavy bit of the 66s…

I’m intrigued.
Well! I won’t comment too much on these. I’ll just say we at least have the biggest port :D
 
I’d love to say it has any acoustic advantages but… it’s just a design choice, really :)
At least as far as we know!
As I said: I could be wrong.
Just not yet proven wrong, a least until someone fills in (or removes) the wavy bit on theirs and measures the results.
 
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