Question about DACs and room correction.

[marked sound]

I am purchasing a HiFi receiver with nice built in DAC. However this receiver does not have room correction, so I am interested in purchasing an external room correction device. The way my system will be set up is... streamer hooked up to the receiver to use the receiver's DAC, receiver hooked up to room correction device.

My question is, is there any way to obtain room correction and still use the DAC of the receiver to process streaming audio? Or is it that once that the receiver is plugged into some sort of room correction, the receivers DAC gets bypassed and everything is handled by the room correction device?

Sorry for if I sound like such a noob. Thanks for the help.

 

[Power Pop 23]

I am purchasing a HiFi receiver with nice built in DAC. However this receiver does not have room correction, so I am interested in purchasing an external room correction device. The way my system will be set up is... streamer hooked up to the receiver to use the receiver's DAC, receiver hooked up to room correction device.

My question is, is there any way to obtain room correction and still use the DAC of the receiver to process streaming audio? Or is it that once that the receiver is plugged into some sort of room correction, the receivers DAC gets bypassed and everything is handled by the room correction device?

Sorry for if I sound like such a noob. Thanks for the help.

Hi,

In your proposed setup, I am uncertain how to connect the output of your receiver to a room correction device.

WiiM make streamers with room correction built-in.

Consider using a WiiM-branded streamer as your source. This can make use of the DAC in your receiver if you desire.

 

[Mort]

I am purchasing a HiFi receiver with nice built in DAC. However this receiver does not have room correction, so I am interested in purchasing an external room correction device. The way my system will be set up is... streamer hooked up to the receiver to use the receiver's DAC, receiver hooked up to room correction device.

My question is, is there any way to obtain room correction and still use the DAC of the receiver to process streaming audio? Or is it that once that the receiver is plugged into some sort of room correction, the receivers DAC gets bypassed and everything is handled by the room correction device?

Sorry for if I sound like such a noob. Thanks for the help.

I think you could use a mini DSP flex digital with dirac live in between the streamer and receiver.

 

[marked sound]

I think you could use a mini DSP flex digital with dirac live in between the streamer and receiver.

Will look into this thanks.

 

[marked sound]

Hi,

In your proposed setup, I am uncertain how to connect the output of your receiver to a room correction device.

WiiM make streamers with room correction built-in.

Consider using a WiiM-branded streamer as your source. This can make use of the DAC in your receiver if you desire.

I'll look into this thanks.

 

[Chrispy]

What receiver are you referring to?

 

[marked sound]

What receiver are you referring to?

It's an Advance Paris A12 Apex. It uses the ESS9039 for it's DAC.

Here is a link to the receiver, or should I say integrated amp. Remove the spaces. I wasn't sure if links are allowed.

htt ps://ww w.advanceparis.c om/en/product/a12-apex/#:~:text=The%20A12%20APEX%20is%20a,and%20faithful%2C%20lively%20sound%20reproduction.

Retails for $4999 USD, but I am getting a deal. Not bad considering there are a lot of receivers out there from $10k-30k and even higher.

 

[Chrispy]

It's an Advance Paris A12 Apex. It uses the ESS9039 for it's DAC.

Here is a link to the receiver, or should I say integrated amp. Remove the spaces. I wasn't sure if links are allowed.

htt ps://ww w.advanceparis.c om/en/product/a12-apex/#:~:text=The%20A12%20APEX%20is%20a,and%20faithful%2C%20lively%20sound%20reproduction.

Retails for $4999 USD, but I am getting a deal. Not bad considering there are a lot of receivers out there from $10k-30k and even higher.

Yep, not a receiver, it's an integrated amp (i.e. a receiver without a tuner). Certainly doesn't seem to be worth $5k. Good luck with it.

 

[Keith_W]

Yep, not a receiver, it's an integrated amp (i.e. a receiver without a tuner). Certainly doesn't seem to be worth $5k. Good luck with it.

^^^ agree.

You don't need an integrated amp. If you get something like a MiniDSP, volume control is done on the DSP device. Get a power amp instead.

 

[marked sound]

Yep, not a receiver, it's an integrated amp (i.e. a receiver without a tuner). Certainly doesn't seem to be worth $5k. Good luck with it.

Not really sure what makes you quickly jump to the conclusion that it isn't worth 5k when you haven't even experienced it? My brother has an integrated amp from their lower range and it sounds excellent with his speakers. I have the same speakers, and this is an updated model with higher end components, so I am expecting it to sound at least as good or even better.

 

[marked sound]

^^^ agree.

You don't need an integrated amp. If you get something like a MiniDSP, volume control is done on the DSP device. Get a power amp instead.

Don't need it but my bro has an amp from this company and it sounds great with his speakers. I am getting an updated model, so I am expecting it to sound good too.

 

[Mort]

Not really sure what makes you quickly jump to the conclusion that it isn't worth 5k

It might be you that's jumped to conclusions. Integrated amplifiers add almost no sonic improvement above a reasonable price point.

That price point is well below $5k.

ASR can help you save a bunch of money if you are open to it.

 

[marked sound]

It might be you that's jumped to conclusions. Integrated amplifiers add almost no sonic improvement above a reasonable price point.

That price point is well below $5k.

ASR can help you save a bunch of money if you are open to it.

I have owned many different setups in my day. Including a Rotel Amp/preamp, various upper Yamaha Receivers, and a Marantz 9.2 integrated I also auditioned many different setups at HiFi stores. So it is not like I don't have experience with different setups.

The Advance Paris Integrated that my brother has, (series below the one I am looking at), is one of the best things I have ever heard.

I know what this forum is about. It's a bunch of audio nerds that have get horny over graphs and measurements, and believe it's the be all and end all.

I never knew anything about Advance Paris until brother called me up and invited me for a listen. I was blown away. That is what gets me horny. The sound. Not graphs and measurements, and if I am sitting in my living-room day after day with a smile on my face because I love what I am hearing, that is what matters most to me.

People could argue and say it's placebo. "You only THINK it sounds good, and I bet if we did blind tests you wouldn't tell the difference" bla bla bla,,, That may or may not be true, but I can tell you that there are times where I was certain that something was going to sound better than something else, and it ended up being the opposite. But even at that, who cares. If i get perceived happiness from something and it puts me in a good mood that is all that matters.

Too many people in the forum want to rain on other people's parade. If your goal was to genuinely try to save me money and not flex some sort of intellectual superiority, then I appreciate sentiment, and sorry for the rant.

 

[JeremyFife]

Room correction / DSP takes place in the digital domain, so before DAC. You can't use the DAC in your integrated amp and have downstream Room correction.

Agree that a Wiim streamer makes a load sense (bit perfect, you cannot improve the streaming quality). Alternatively you could spend more on an Eversolo, also really nice kit.

Please take comments here as genuine suggestions, not to save money but to get great sound and avoid paying for something that just doesn't add anything useful.

There's more to equipment than just good measurements: different features, build quality, aesthetics and that all matters.

I'd also recommend that you read more deeply on your proposed new amp - if you're sold on it that's fine, but there may be better options at (from example) half the price

 

[JSmith]

flex some sort of intellectual superiority

Nothing to do with that, members are trying to assist you.

audio nerds

As always, it's the nerds in any given field that know the most about same.


JSmith

 

[voodooless]

I know what this forum is about. It's a bunch of audio nerds that have get horny over graphs and measurements, and believe it's the be all and end all.

You clearly have no idea what this forum is about.. why are you even here asking questions if you come with responses like these?

 

[Chrispy]

I have owned many different setups in my day. Including a Rotel Amp/preamp, various upper Yamaha Receivers, and a Marantz 9.2 integrated I also auditioned many different setups at HiFi stores. So it is not like I don't have experience with different setups.

The Advance Paris Integrated that my brother has, (series below the one I am looking at), is one of the best things I have ever heard.

I know what this forum is about. It's a bunch of audio nerds that have get horny over graphs and measurements, and believe it's the be all and end all.

I never knew anything about Advance Paris until brother called me up and invited me for a listen. I was blown away. That is what gets me horny. The sound. Not graphs and measurements, and if I am sitting in my living-room day after day with a smile on my face because I love what I am hearing, that is what matters most to me.

People could argue and say it's placebo. "You only THINK it sounds good, and I bet if we did blind tests you wouldn't tell the difference" bla bla bla,,, That may or may not be true, but I can tell you that there are times where I was certain that something was going to sound better than something else, and it ended up being the opposite. But even at that, who cares. If i get perceived happiness from something and it puts me in a good mood that is all that matters.

Too many people in the forum want to rain on other people's parade. If your goal was to genuinely try to save me money and not flex some sort of intellectual superiority, then I appreciate sentiment, and sorry for the rant.

Is there a point or some actual experience worth sharing in there?

 

[marked sound]

You clearly have no idea what this forum is about.. why are you even here asking questions if you come with responses like these?

I go to a doctor that more often than not likes to push pills, which I strongly disagree with. That still doesn't mean I don't think he is knowledgable in other areas, and that he can't offer me assistance. Just because I don't agree with a lot of people's stance on here that measurements are the be all and end all, that doesn't mean I think they are idiots, and that their still isn't a lot I can learn from them.

 

[marked sound]

Is there a point or some actual experience worth sharing in there?

When you sarcastically replied to me and said that the receiver wasn't worth 5k and said "good luck with it", and then I replied "Not really sure what makes you quickly jump to the conclusion that it isn't worth 5k when you haven't even experienced it?"

Mort then replied saying that it was me that was jumping to conclusions. I then was merely explaining that I have owned and listened to lots of various audio gear of all kinds, before deciding I really liked the sound of this brand receiver... To indicate I was not jumping to conclusions. You obviously didn't care too see the point, but only cared to make another sarcastic comment.

 

[voodooless]

I go to a doctor that more often than not likes to push pills, which I strongly disagree with. That still doesn't mean I don't think he is knowledgable in other areas, and that he can't offer me assistance. Just because I don't agree with a lot of people's stance on here that measurements are the be all and end all, that doesn't mean I think they are idiots, and that their still isn't a lot I can learn from them.

The doctor tells you that blood letting is foolish and dangerous, yet you keep doing it anyway…