PS Audio PowerPlant P12 Amplifier Tests (Video)

[MattHooper]

Why are you such a one trick pony? It’s you trying to deny people an opinion! How much audio equipment have you ever listened too, not much I suspect. All my clothes measure the same yet some are much better quality than others. You hard line measurists are Polyester Audiophiles.

Poe's Law Activated

 

[voodooless]

Rubbish! A few years ago read a report on tests carried out on a variety of USB cables. None of them were transparent and there was data loss in them all, some of the more expensive ones tested badly.

Show us the article

Why are we talking about USB cables now suddenly btw? HDMI was the topic. Not that it matters to much.

 

[DonR]

Rubbish! A few years ago read a report on tests carried out on a variety of USB cables. None of them were transparent and there was data loss in them all, some of the more expensive ones tested badly.

Funny. I have been using USB cables for years and not a single bit lost. I must be lucky.

 

[Suffolkhifinut]

Show us the article

I’m not going to bother a closed mind isn’t open to anything not fitting their uninformed outlook. If you want to look for it, go for it I’ve no intention of doing your work! Read AMIR’s article my comments are based on his post, maybe you could ask him to carry out tests on cables? Oh sorry forgot they are all the same!

 

[voodooless]

Funny. I have been using USB cables for years and not a single bit lost. I must be lucky.

To be fair, depending on the protocol used, USB does have retransmission. Not however for the most used USB Audio standard. It only has error detection. You'd need a really bad (broken) cable though, to have errors. HDMI on the other hand also uses error correction. A relatively simple scheme for most versions. From 2.1 they seem to have added forward error correction as well, which is extremely rubust.

 

[voodooless]

I’m not going to bother a closed mind isn’t open to anything not fitting their uninformed outlook.

Project much? I'm being open-minded and ask you for your source, and you immediately assume I'm the one that is close-minded?

 

[DonR]

I'll just leave this here: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...s/do-usb-audio-cables-make-a-difference.1887/ If you are getting errors, it's probably your Schitty DAC.

 

[BDWoody]

I’m not going to bother a closed mind isn’t open to anything not fitting their uninformed outlook. If you want to look for it, go for it I’ve no intention of doing your work!

Done trolling this thread.

 

[pkane]

Did you read AMIR’s post? He wasn’t posting about a broken cable, when he states the cable can corrupt the pixels. Either you don’t understand what he posted or have got your head on the wrong way?

I suspect you don’t know what you’re talking about.

 

[pkane]

Subjectivist: I just came back from checking out a Perpetual Motion Machine. My friend built it in his garage!

Physicist: *explains the physics of why that is impossible*

Subjectivist: But where you there? Have you tried a perpetual motion machine in your garage? If not, Mr. Physicist, you have no right to an opinion!

Literally happened to me while I was working towards MS degree. Somehow a guy slipped into a secure lab area looking to partner with someone to build an engine … that would generate free energy, forever. There was no convincing him that this couldn’t possibly work. He was escorted out by security, enraged that nobody believed him.

 

[CinDyment]

Literally happened to me while I was working towards MS degree. Somehow a guy slipped into a secure lab area looking to partner with someone to build an engine … that would generate free energy, forever. There was no convincing him that this couldn’t possibly work. He was escorted out by security, enraged that nobody believed him.

Sadly enough, I have had discussions just like that .... on stock websites, where I explain that what the company is claiming is literally a perpetual motion machine and they don't exist. I take my abuse, then come back in 6 months for my l last laugh when the stock price has tanked. Hot Air has a limited time value in the stock market.

 

[voodooless]

Theranos anyone?

 

[pinpoint_oxford]

Theranos anyone?

That was my thought exactly. The difference is that Theranos' investors and board were deliberately non-science people that wouldn't ask questions. When scientists asked for proof the answer was: you can't see it it's proprietary trade secret technology. I.e. it didn't exist.

 

[gks333]

It really is.

Also interesting to see the posts from some of our members who clearly have serious butthurt issues from all the meanies around here.

Here they try to tell us we need to be nicer and more open minded (generally while dealing with nutty claims) while across the very small street they spit venom at you like you're the devil.

Sad to see grownups having such a hard time dealing...

This forum, ASR of the 4 other forums I visit has been the most toxic in my experience. That should make you wonder. I have thick skin so name calling etc doesnt bother me but when you even mention anything subjective and get jumped immediately, thats the toxicity of the forum base. Fact, audio is subjective and objective and both can work together for any audiophile and give them their desired results.

 

[DonR]

This forum, ASR of the 4 other forums I visit has been the most toxic in my experience. That should make you wonder. I have thick skin so name calling etc doesnt bother me but when you even mention anything subjective and get jumped immediately, thats the toxicity of the forum base. Fact, audio is subjective and objective and both can work together for any audiophile and give them their desired results.

Nope. It's all in your head.

 

[pinpoint_oxford]

This forum, ASR of the 4 other forums I visit has been the most toxic in my experience. That should make you wonder. I have thick skin so name calling etc doesnt bother me but when you even mention anything subjective and get jumped immediately, thats the toxicity of the forum base. Fact, audio is subjective and objective and both can work together for any audiophile and give them their desired results.

I've yet to find a hobby forum that doesn't devolve into infighting and groupthink at some point. I find it best when you don't try to change someone's opinion. You're certainly allowed to be subjective (I am myself), but I also acknowledge it's my preference even if you think I'm wasting my money or making irrational choices.

 

[JSmith]

Fact, audio is subjective and objective and both can work together for any audiophile and give them their desired results.

In what way do you mean this though to be clear? Of course listening to anything is subjective, as in sound waves being interpreted by the brain. Further and of course any device must be looked at objectively, simply due to the nature of what it is, an electrical device. The only subjective part of a device is how it looks.


JSmith

 

[Astoneroad]

Literally happened to me while I was working towards MS degree. Somehow a guy slipped into a secure lab area looking to partner with someone to build an engine … that would generate free energy, forever. There was no convincing him that this couldn’t possibly work. He was escorted out by security, enraged that nobody believed him.

That was just that one time... when I was off my meds... I'm MUCH better now. Since then... I moved to Colorado and came up with even a better idea than that one... I called it a "Regenerator". It's insane... I make up all this stuff... make vids... and sell the rubes... whatever it is that I'm selling. Can you believe it... just cuz I say it... these morons believe it. Anyways... how'd that whole MS degree thing go for ya? I was a DJ myself... by the way... what does the "S" in "MS" stand for?

 

[Astoneroad]

This forum, ASR of the 4 other forums I visit has been the most toxic in my experience. That should make you wonder. I have thick skin so name calling etc doesnt bother me but when you even mention anything subjective and get jumped immediately, thats the toxicity of the forum base. Fact, audio is subjective and objective and both can work together for any audiophile and give them their desired results.

Are you describing pornography?... sorry... I was going for funny... not toxic.

 

[JSmith]

Also interesting to see the posts from some of our members who clearly have serious butthurt issues from all the meanies around here.

Is there some kind of manager I can speak with here?

JSmith