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Proper cable to join RCA to XLR balanced, help needed

Bill Whitlock explains why he disagrees with you on this. With no ground connection you could have enough Common Mode voltage at the balanced end to overwhelm it. Grounding the shield at both ends and using a shielded twisted pair takes this possibility away. CMRR will be degraded by the output impedance of the source RCA end, but it won't be zero. Read section 2 in this document.


As XLR's are typically use shielded twisted pair that is why you are well advised to use XLR cable right to the RCA end or use it and an XLR to RCA adapter at the RCA end. The diagram MIguelon showed is the better way. It does present the possibility of some current flowing and causing some hum, but other issues could be worse.
I don’t understand well no one of both explanations, but as many times as I find discrepancies for adaptors I make me the same questions:

-Why all inputs and outputs of weak signals are not balanced with CMR?
-Why they exists various voltage line outputs instead of a single conventional one?
 
I don’t understand well no one of both explanations, but as many times as I find discrepancies for adaptors I make me the same questions:

-Why all inputs and outputs of weak signals are not balanced with CMR?
-Why they exists various voltage line outputs instead of a single conventional one?
Hey there are no standards enforced for the most part. Many are for historical reasons. Once a given method is widespread no one wants their product to fail in the marketplace because they used an odd standard no one else uses. Balanced interconnection is better, but RCA is more common at the consumer level and usually works well enough nothing to worry about. Voltages have always been not any standard. At one time they were much lower, but CD tried to standardize on 2 volts max. There is no answering that question.

In my system I avoided it for years, but finally decided everything is balanced. Wish I had done it sooner.
 
Hey there are no standards enforced for the most part. Many are for historical reasons. Once a given method is widespread no one wants their product to fail in the marketplace because they used an odd standard no one else uses. Balanced interconnection is better, but RCA is more common at the consumer level and usually works well enough nothing to worry about. Voltages have always been not any standard. At one time they were much lower, but CD tried to standardize on 2 volts max. There is no answering that question.

In my system I avoided it for years, but finally decided everything is balanced. Wish I had done it sooner.
Yep, me too, if I could I had a balanced water closet :)
 
Yes I have also edited my answer, it remains possible for the cable to be as claimed.
Sorry late to this......I have many Monoprice cables of this type acquired at different times. They change how they make these depending on production batches it would seem. All such cables need to be dis assembled and checked/verified they are constructed correctly. Looks like you have one where they connected the black wire to the RCA center pin and the white or clear wire to the RCA ground along with the shield. Now on the XLR end therefore the black wire should go to pin 2. The white/clear should go to pin 3 and the shield or the shield drain wire or both should go to pin 1 and optionally the shell. There should be no jumper from 1 to 3 on the XLR connector end. Your meter will read a short between these of course because they are tied together on the RCA end of the cable.
 
Sorry late to this......I have many Monoprice cables of this type acquired at different times. They change how they make these depending on production batches it would seem. All such cables need to be dis assembled and checked/verified they are constructed correctly. Looks like you have one where they connected the black wire to the RCA center pin and the white or clear wire to the RCA ground along with the shield. Now on the XLR end therefore the black wire should go to pin 2. The white/clear should go to pin 3 and the shield or the shield drain wire or both should go to pin 1 and optionally the shell. There should be no jumper from 1 to 3 on the XLR connector end. Your meter will read a short between these of course because they are tied together on the RCA end of the cable.
First of all thank you so much for your response.
So... the cable is not built as it claims to be?
 
Of course best solution is to do what is shown in Jensen Transformer App note3 under para 2.4 "A Simple Alternative"--add a balanced output. If one does this you need to be careful and note the difference between chassis ground and signal ground and their connections. If no schematics of the equipment being modified are available this can be difficult.
 
First of all thank you so much for your response.
So... the cable is not built as it claims to be?
I cannot tell so far from the pictures you provided. It is definitely a shielded twisted pair, correct? These Monoprice cables always have been in the past but just to be sure. Then you need to take the XLR end apart and inspect also.
 
The real proper way is using an interface to balance the signal, like certain DI's who are made to do it. But you can get away without it in most cases (read, when the cable is short enough, not longer than a few meters) when it's from unbalanced to balanced (not reverse) with the right cable also.

Best then is to make it yourelf, but you need to know how to solder. How it should be done is how Babadono explains it. What commercial cable is done right, i don't know, i make them myself. But i know a lot of the cheaper ones like the monoprice cables are done wrong. The cable itself is good enough, but the way it's connected to the plugs is wrong and that may cause ground loops and so.

If you make them yourself, find good quality raw OFC (mainly for durability) stranded cable and use quality connectors like Neutrik. Neutrik is not cheap, but not very expensive neighter and high quality. It's a standard in pro audio since decades. Mogami, Canare, Belden and Blue Jeans are very high quality and reasonable priced on cabling (and their cheapest range is often good enough). But there is a lot of high quality generic cables also. And even CCA (copper clad aluminium) cable is not that bad for this, but worse than pure copper (OFC). So don't spend to much on parts, it's mainly important to connect the cable right to the plugs and have a clean connection (so soldered right).
 
But i know a lot of the cheaper ones like the monoprice cables are done wrong. The cable itself is good enough, but the way it's connected to the plugs is wrong and that may cause ground loops and so.
Sometimes they are done correctly at least in my experience. And they are always fixable if not. And they are beefy which I like. Also I inquired form Monoprice tech support long ago what the capacitance conductor to conductor and conductor to shield was and basically their answer was "we don't know or measure or spec it". So I measured myself. Their cable was right in the ballpark with other much higher priced cables and what they spec.
 
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