Pro orchestra musician needing headphone advice.

[Timcognito]

Master "deals" (massdrop, ebay, Amazon, etc.) Thread on Audio Product Sales

Anthem’s pre Black Friday sale is up on the MRX and AVM via Audio Advice. 20% off https://www.audioadvice.com/products/anthem-mrx1140-8k-11-2-pre-amplifier https://www.audioadvice.com/products/anthem-avm70-15-2-av-pre-amplifier-processor-8k...

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[gpunique]

Master "deals" (massdrop, ebay, Amazon, etc.) Thread on Audio Product Sales

Anthem’s pre Black Friday sale is up on the MRX and AVM via Audio Advice. 20% off https://www.audioadvice.com/products/anthem-mrx1140-8k-11-2-pre-amplifier https://www.audioadvice.com/products/anthem-avm70-15-2-av-pre-amplifier-processor-8k...

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yep, thats exactly what i posted in this thread last night. and you can get an additional $10 off as a new customer and 4% off with rakuten cashback! I probably will buy this at that price. I didn't know about your deal thread as i'm new here or i would have posted. thanks for your help!

 

[JIW]

I have a sony pcm-d50 and a zoom h2n portable recorders.

The PCM-D50 has a rated output level of the headphone output of 400 mV, i.e. 0.4 V. The rated power is given as at least 25 mW. However, the impedance for that is unspecified and given the output level should be 0.4^2/.025 = 6.4 Ohm. Anyways, 400 mV is only enough for only around 100 dB SPL peak for a digital maximum value with HD600/HD6XX. This is probably too low for you.

The h2n has a rated output power of 20 mW at 32 Ohm which gives a voltage of (20/1000*32)^.5 = 0.8 V. For the HD600/HD6XX this thus gives around 106 dB SPL peak for a digital maximum value. This is probably still too low for you. However, the voltage at 300 Ohm may be higher than at 32 Ohm because the amplifier is not restricted by current or less voltage is lost due to output impedance.

Further, the HD600/HD6XX barely attenuate any outside sound but do so more at higher frequencies. If you want to use them for monitoring, this will throw off the timbre. Also, consider that the latency from the recording device may be off-putting if the original sound is not suppressed.

Anyways, you can always try it and see if need a second pair.

 

[Demmers]

Just chiming in as an owner of the DT 770 Pro X. I absolutely love them, they’re incredibly versatile. Note that as a non-musician, I can’t comment on those technicalities. As someone has already said, they’re not neutral, but then again I haven’t heard the 700 or any of the original 770’s to compare to. My previous headphones were the Audio Technica MSR7’s. Those lacked the low end the 770 Pro X’s have, but I would say the mids and highs sound similar, and I’m a fan of where they’re at. I seem to be in the minority when it comes to the highs, critics of both say the highs are too bright, but we’re all different so…. I just find it funny that the original 770’s are famous in the music studio, Beyer release a new “better” version of them, and all of a sudden, people say they’re NOT suitable for the studio!

 

[Dazerdoreal]

I just find it funny that the original 770’s are famous in the music studio, Beyer release a new “better” version of them, and all of a sudden, people say they’re NOT suitable for the studio!

Because measurements imply that they have a less neutral frequency response, a more coloured tuning. The new 770s were positioned in a more "Hi-Fi" direction, so to speak.
So yes, the old 770s were better suited for the studio. Despite what the marketing might say, they are not just a straight-up better version of the same headphone.

 

[Blake]

I'll chime in just because I own a few of the headphones discussed here:

7Hz Zero:2 -- Phenomenal for the money. I've bought several pairs, some for family and some for spares (which I haven't had to use so far!). The included cable isn't terrible, but I bought a Tripowin Zonie cable for about $20 because the original one started getting a bit stiff and wiry with use. Or maybe it's always stiff and wiry but it started getting stuck in weird configurations. I also prefer Comply foam ear tips for these, but that's more of a personal thing re: tastes and my ears. Either way, the Zero:2 is fantastic.

Beyerdynamic DT 770: I have the pre-X version (250 ohm because I use it with an amp), and I think it's a great headphone overall. I've never been bothered by the peak in the treble, but YMMV. Sound-wise, my biggest complaint would be that the low end can be a bit boomy. I don't really notice it with music, but I do notice it if I get a call on my computer and I'm expected to hear somebody speaking. The clarity gets a bit lost. Obviously that's not what this headphone is for, but it's maybe indicative of a loss of detail in the upper frequencies that's less obvious when listening to music. One thing I don't think I've seen mentioned yet about these, though, is that they seem pretty rugged. I would think they would travel well despite not being foldable. If you're not going to use an amp, there are lower-impedance models (and I think that's the only way the X version comes).

Drop Sennheiser HD 6XX: Terrific headphone if you want an open back. As others have mentioned, it's basically the HD 650. Just keep in mind that it's a 300 ohm headphone, so you might want an amp to get desired volume levels.

Any of those will sound pretty different from your Grados. I have the SR60 and the SR225e myself, and both have that typical Grado trait of peaks around 2 and 4.5 KHz. Some people like that very forward sound. Honestly, I've gotten to the point at my age where I have difficulty listening to them for very long anymore, so I don't tend to use them. I think any of the above will sound more natural once you take some time with them, especially the Zero:2 and the HD 6XX.