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Prices of Very Large Flat TVs are Falling Fast

SIY said:
Dumb question- people tell me (always a bad way to start!) that OLEDs are superior to QLED. I went to Costco to look at a few and damned if I could tell the difference. What am I missing?
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The contrast and the blacks. Unbelievable difference in an actual darkened/normal home environment. Shop floors are generally pretty bright places, and the TVs are all set to "showroom" mode with super vivid, bright colours to look great on the sales-floor.

We bought a 4K UHD OLED Samsung 77" (QA77S90CAW) and the "blacks" are so black you can't tell the TV is even on. You actually need a table/floor lamp on somewhere in the room because dark scenes are so dark. The brightness is incredible too.

I have little interest in giant TVs, having been around them in sales and retail for way too long, so I left the entire purchase/research to my lovely partner. She decided on this expensive (I thought ridiculous) TV as the one we "needed". I'm happy to admit she made a way better choice than I would have made.
 
Chr1 said:
I have my tv between my speakers but on the same plane, if that makes sense. Ie there's a gap between the rear wall and the rear of the tv.
Probably not, but I like to think it may be a bit like a cheapo version of soffit mounting...
The large TV unit is similar, such that the speakers are effectively soffit mounted on the inside, at least. Partially so, on the outside too. Hopefully it helps avoid reflections from the back wall somewhat...
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Yes, but what about the reflections from the TV screen itself?
 
krabapple said:
Yes, but what about the reflections from the TV screen itself?
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Glossy and matte screens is one of the most annoying things in screen marketing to me. When most screens were glossy, you had to search for a matte screen option and it was usually a "premium" option and then it turned around where matte screens were the norm and glossy screens were "premium" with a bunch of marketing nonsense to validate how "premium" each option was at the time. I wish all screens were just matte but it seems the current rage is still glossy, lol!
 
MKR said:
Anyone know much about the AWOL short throw projectors? A worthy contender to OLED?

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Expensive for the good ones but one gets a large screen but needs a darker room. My take; great for a dedicated HT area in a home at $3-4k.
 
ryusmarty said:
Why not? Steady stream of income/revenue with little to no marketing? Sounds like a win to me.
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One of the short-comings of Sony TVs is that, even in 2024, the chipsets they use only have 2 full-bandwidth 40 Gbps HDMI ports. When I had a Denon X3700H, this was a big problem because the AVR consumed one of the 2.1 ports on the TV and it only had one more 2.1 port itself. These days with modern HDMI 2.1 AVR/AVPs, it's not such a big issue. But it's still annoying that 4 years later, Sony has not improved their HDMI chipsets. I am waiting to upgrade my 85" Sony X900H, but I would like to see a meaningful upgrade in chipset before I do so.
 
Old_School_Brad said:
That was exactly my point. I especially don’t see the need for these oversized TVs -our homes aren’t getting any bigger. In fact, more and more people, as far as I know, are living in apartments.

In any case, sitting 2-4 m. from the 46" in our main living room is perfectly fine. I wouldn't want the picture to be twice the size.
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I have been to 3 homes this year that had no TVs. 20 years ago this would be unimaginable.

People now would just rather watch content straight from their phones.
 
We watch extremely little television (by any means) and haven't watched much at all since the 1990s.
There is one here (two actually) -- two small-ish, roadside find LED flat-panel TVs (one Samsung, one "Emerson" branded). More than adequate for our extremely limited consumption.

I have a theory about television. :p My theory is that any given human brain can only tolerate a finite (and perhaps even fixed) number of hours watching television/video. I watched a lot as a kid. I believe I became over-saturated.
 
Sample size of three households......

I have very young relatives who definitely prefer viewing content on portable devices. Their parents have installed very large (75 or more inches) flat TVs in part because of the shorter time window between the red carpet debut of an animated movie and the ability to view a digital copy at home.
 
Palladium said:
I have been to 3 homes this year that had no TVs. 20 years ago this would be unimaginable.

People now would just rather watch content straight from their phones.
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Maybe for some people. But I’m pretty confident this is the trend, so in a few years, you'd likely be correct.
Another thing I find wild: you can buy an 80" 4K OLED TV for the same price as the new iPhone 16 Pro Max.
 
sometimes I wonder how we got by watching content on such small screens 20+ years ago
 
Costco has two big TVs for under $1,800. The HiSense U7 100" for $1,799.99 and the 98" TCL Q6 for $1,699.99.

Seven years ago I replaced my projector with an LeEco Umax 85" for $3,000 and I thought that was a great deal. It supports 3D and has HDR and DolbyVision and still looks great today.

These prices are insanely cheap.

Martin
 
Palladium said:
I have been to 3 homes this year that had no TVs. 20 years ago this would be unimaginable.

People now would just rather watch content straight from their phones.
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Here, no TV since 2007 & the phone is only used for texts, talking & cheesy photographs (have a digital Canon for better). The 27"(I want a 32") desktop Samsung computer screen can also use my oPPo 205 UDP HDMI signal, no streaming here, either.
I have no idea of why anyone would want to watch video on their phone.
 
I'm so happy that I chose to view a TV as a monitor and hook it up with a dedicated Linux pc. All that 'smart' thing, is not my cup of tea.
Now I'm in control and I don't care what type of app/software/update is out there.
My TV is a LG55" OLED which is around 6 years old, bought used for around 440 euro, and it still works perfectly. All I needed was one HDMI input.
Never a commercial or the like - ever :)
 
Sony buys panels from Samsung, not from LG. Samsung panels are QD-OLED whereas LG panels are WOLED. It's a most important difference. With new MLA technology, LG panels are brighter in HDR mode and handles near black details better. QD-OLED has a better colour saturation in high brightness. This year Sony is not even releasing flagship OLED TV and replaced it with mini-LED screen. Panasonic buys panels from LG and their processing is better than LG, but they don't have a TV bigger than 65" with MLA technology. So if you need 77" or 83", LG is your best bet, IMO. Especially having in mind, that LG is much cheaper.

One area where TVs are getting better with every generation is a screen uniformity. It's a big deal for me.
 
...entropy grows...

I really haven't noticed discussion on the "look" of these larger screens, just esoteric video performance comments.

We replaced an older LED screen (65", bought new in 2012) with a 77" OLED (LG) about 6 months ago.

(setup properties)
  1. We view from ~9-10' in "Zero-G" chairs, enabling comfortable sight-line adjustments.
  2. The screen settings are dialed in using tweaked reviewer recommendations.
  3. Other smart TV functions turned off, "user agreements" ignored.
  4. We don't use the loudspeakers in the TV.
(/setup properties)

I always hated the black levels of the old 65" LED: splotchy areas across the screen. I first noticed OLED black levels. As evening arrives, black means black. This is a big deal.

The differences don't stop there. The smoothness and presence of the out-of-focus backgrounds...the bokeh...are just stunning. The brand of digital camera used to capture film images (e.g., ARRI Alexa cameras) can easily be seen. There is an almost pastel color quality, image naturalness and an understated sharpness that invites the viewer. It's like staring at art gallery color photographs or paintings.

Along with the sound quality of the audio system, it's a completely different experience, a pleasure watching any time of day.

Chris
 
Chris A said:
here is an almost pastel color quality, image naturalness and an understated sharpness that invites the viewer. It's like staring at art gallery color photographs or paintings.
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Dare we say "analog-like"?
;)

(ahem - just kiddin' around... well, mostly :rolleyes: :facepalm:)
 
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