My 4yr old TCL mini LED 65in is still way too bright at night even on the darker setting. I highly doubt anyone would notice the difference. It's a bit like audio, your brain gets used to it, even if there is a difference you could tell (which I'm not sure there is).I can't do 75" as it would be too wide (current space is b/w 2 windows w/thick curtains). Your rec of the TCL is intriguing but I ultimately decided against mini LED technology as the blooming issue would drive me crazy and I hear they lose their brightness significantly over time (almost like a built-in planned obsolescence)! I'm ok buying OLED again as long as an enhanced warranty exists that covers burn-in (which I think BB does).
RTING specifically called out raised blacks in a bright room for your S95B:
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Any objection to blooming for you?
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How so?
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Best Buy USA is currently showing 32 TV models in stock that have 98-inch or 100-inch panels including a 98-inch TCL 'Q55K' TV for $999.99
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I treat all TV watching as if I were going to a movie.
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Just curious, where do you guys (& gals) dispose of your old/broken big screen TV's? My very conveniently located dumpster site will not except consumer electronics or appliances. I have to drive like 25 miles to another site that has electronic/appliance recycling.
My 8-year old Chinese LeEco uMax 85" LED TV is still working perfectly. I also have two Chinese 55" LED TVs, a 7-year old TCL and a 4-year old Hisense, both of which have been flawless.
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The last TV I had fail was a Philips CRT in a wooden case with ultrasonic remote. It had belonged to a pal's parents, they gave it to him , he gave it to me.
It dated from about 1979 or possibly earlier, I scrapped it in '95 when the vertical hold went (for a year or so it could be fixed with a couple of heavy blows on top and some swearing, but then the problem became bad enough that finessed technique no longer worked).
Every TV I've had since then is still working now including a Trinitron monitor from about 1992.
It dated from about 1979 or possibly earlier, I scrapped it in '95 when the vertical hold went (for a year or so it could be fixed with a couple of heavy blows on top and some swearing, but then the problem became bad enough that finessed technique no longer worked).
Every TV I've had since then is still working now including a Trinitron monitor from about 1992.
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I watched a Youtube vid last night concerning caution of Black Friday TV deals. A Panasonic model bought cheap a few years ago, turns out to be a Turkish made generic model that's somehow been authorised to use the Panasonic/Hitachi/Toshiba logo. Not as well built nor components claimed as good, so bad solder connections and even component failure apparently occur after a very few years, where 'proper' Panasonic sets can last many years - our 28" widescreen CRT at twenty years old was still running fine with minimal tube ageing when it went to the recycling centre.
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In Belgium it is forced by law that the shop needs to take back you're old (defective) electronics stuff. You can also bring it to your local waste park for free. With every new purchase, you pay a small recycle fee to fund it.
So, if I were to purchase an additional piece of electronics and not bring back one to dispose of because I continue to use it, am I being pemalized by having to pay a recyling fee anyway?
Same in the Netherlands, although it is no longer visible. A small recycling fee is included in the price of larger items like washing machines, but no longer for small stuff. Everything will one day have to be disposed of - nothing lasts forever. Disposing at the local waste disposal site is free. I went there two days ago to deposit a large quantity of garden waste, now that the leaves have been falling. You show the digital waste disposal pass, and you are then allowed to deposit waste a few times a year free of charge. If you have more, you have to pay, but that has not yet happened to us.
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Seattle's solid waste utility has arranged for large TV screens be accepted for free at designated sites or will arrange for a pickup for $30.
In 2027, they plan to allow for one free pickup a year per account.
The reason that I asked is that South Carolina has one of those fees for automotive type batteries. I changed batteries for another use (as I needed a battery for lighting use) and decided to use the one from my vehicle that was only a year old. But when I bought the new one for my truck, I still had to pay a battery recycling fee, even though I was NOT bringing in an old battery to recycle.
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There is not much for me to dispose of, I have a use for most of the inside of a wet cell battery, when I finally cannot rejuvinate it with High FR pulses.
Maybe I'll swithch to lithium automotive batteries. At least that will give the recyler folks something that they will have to work for to earn their money.
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I'm going to answer this because I have a 2020 Samsung mini LED and I really don't like the blooming. It isn't visible most of the time but really shows up some of the time. What ultimately bothers me is the inconsistency, depending on the scene. This has bothered me about OLED as well, but it's the bright areas dimming down when they get too large that bothers me on those. In my opinion both of these technologies up until recently have really only been quasi-HDR technologies because they can't really do it all the way. They give you taste of it on scenes where they can do it, but look pretty weird when there are scenes they can't really do right, which are more frequent than most people let on, at least for the content I watch. I bought a mini LED despite the blooming issue because the OLED TVs back then were always noticeably actively dimming areas of the screen every time I watched them. Some people don't notice it, or even seem to prefer it. Kind of like the soap opera effect. Not everybody notices it. Some people like it!
On my old mini LED QN85, I've found the solution is somewhat disappointing but it works for me. I can't let the TV get as bright as it's able. I have to turn the local dimming down to low, and turn the contrast way down to about 20 out of 50. The brightness is left at full level. This causes both peak brightness to go down and ultimate black level to come up. Keeping the local dimming on low exasperates blooming but prevents the crushing of small highlights. The deep blacks never getting too deep prevents the blooming from sticking out like a sore thumb. Everything is pretty consistent so my brain can adjust to the black limit and the peak brightness limit, which is consistent across every scene, and I really enjoy watching it now even though it doesn't dazzle with eye popping contrast so much.
With the contrast turned down so much this clearly doesn't offer a true HDR experience, but it also doesn't look weird. When I do watch HDR content, it still looks better than standard content, so there's a benefit to it that's visible on high quality content. It just lacks the extreme pop I can get if I allow it be weird looking.
If I were to buy a new OLED TV right now I'd get one of those new ones that can do 400 nits full screen, and then put it in the mode where it's not allowed to do really high peak highlights. I'd get those great blacks but not those really bright peaks. It'd be bright enough though, and look good and natural to me. It'd probably be about as bright as what I'm getting with my current setup but with deeper blacks. I might even raise the blacks a bit if that setting is available on OLED. I don't think pure black should ever be a part of content on any part of the screen. The TV should be capable of it, but content creators should know better than to let it fall into that infinite abyss. The next light level up will either be too far down, or too high up compared to zero. I want a tiny bit of screen glow for visual dithering. Nothing in the real world ever looks as deep black to me as a pure black area of a TV screen. Something about it just isn't quite right perceptually.