PreSonus Sceptre S6 Monitor Review

[G|force]

Wonder how they perform, what level of input does it need to get the 133dB advertised SPL?

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[lewdish]

Im gonna say that its acutally not all too terrible other than the mechanical limitations. I think this is Presonus's best iteration yet. I think its passable tbh, its not great for its price but its also not bad for its price either.

 

[Curvature]

Martin CDD… they are super even dispersion and crazy loud

Measurements for speaker Martin Audio CDD15

www.spinorama.org

Certainly better than many PA speakers, but not all that even.

 

[MadaM]

Measurements for speaker Martin Audio CDD15

www.spinorama.org

Certainly better than many PA speakers, but not all that even.

THX, I haven't seen these... I have the CDD6 and the CDD8 with wider coverage than the CDD15...

Wonder if there are any similar measurements for Tannoy V or VX maybe for Power V or VXP series available?
By the way, all my favorite speakers I ever had was from Noth Creek Music Audio Systems... George Short is a great guy.
I wanted to have their Pegasus or Kitty Kat systems or the Advanced Ribbon Systems (A.R.T.) Metro, but they closed.

 

[Curvature]

CDD8

https://www.spinorama.org/speakers/Martin Audio CDD8/Martin Audio/index_vendor-pattern-90x60.html

90×60 degrees. Is this the one you have?

Here's the VX: https://www.spinorama.org/speakers/Tannoy VX12/Tannoy/index_vendor-pattern-75x40.html

I couldn't find measurements of the North Creek speakers.

 

[ernestcarl]

costs US $899 each.

The Sceptres seemingly have been discontinued according to several outlets -- and so I had assumed whatever few remaining stock were the very, very last... but apparently that's no longer the case now? Hmmmn... If you check the prices at camelcamelcamel ~$900 is rather at an unusual extreme end of the curve since the beginning early part of its production run one could get the S6 for $500 or sometimes even less.

For quite a few years, the S8 was even listed as discontinued just about everywhere here in Canada. Recently last year, however, the S8 (CAD ~$880 each) has now been re-listed at Amazon.ca as available -- with "more on the way" -- for some odd reason. I do wonder if these speakers are "old" and/or previously returned items -- hopefully not.


Here are the in-room average horizontal curves of my two S8 studio monitors in comparison to the Sceptre S6:

*A bit more smoothing applied on my S8 above it only being in-room measurements

The smaller S6 has a bit more peaky FR in the "presence" region which is in line with other published comments/review (e.g. Sound on Sound) in the interwebs about the S6 having more sharp mid-range forward characteristic.

obviously, the goal was to build a rather cheap speaker.

@ernestcarl could chime in, afair he has/had the Sceptres for quite some time

This is probably the cheapest mass consumer loudspeaker product attempt that has Dave Gunness' design input. The FR performance of their coaxial speakers do vary quite a bit from one to the next since the drivers and horns used are not at all completely identical anyways. Some commonalities with the more professional Fulcrum PA line is about high SPL output packaged at relatively small, rugged designs (which is easier to maintain long-term and minimize visibility for fixed installations). From that vantage point one can see why the use of "pro audio" horn coax drivers have been preferred at Fulcrum Acoustic.

They also make relatively cheap PA gear
I have a pair of the discontinued SL328AI

They are truly not hifi but they do go loud

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The larger PA stuff were discontinued by Presonus only after a few years... but, very similar and improved design of the above is here:

EX8 – Triple 8” Coaxial Loudspeaker | Fulcrum Acoustic

EX8 coaxial loudspeakers are narrow profile, high fidelity sound reinforcement loudspeakers. Their three 8 inch woofers provide the output capability of a single 12 inch loudspeaker but with additional low-frequency vertical pattern control. They offer a choice of 90° x 60° or 120° x 60° horns...

www.fulcrum-acoustic.com

 

[Torin Krell]

Here is the June 2015 SOS review covering most of the coaxial driver Presonus StudioLive PA range: https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/presonus-studiolive-ai-pa

 

[ernestcarl]

Here is the June 2015 SOS review covering most of the coaxial driver Presonus StudioLive PA range: https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/presonus-studiolive-ai-pa

More interesting graphs from that discontinued PA monitors I clipped and posted here: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...tion-with-coax-and-woofers.49055/post-1757430

328AI source image is located right at the last page of this particular datasheet PDF: https://www.fullcompass.com/common/files/25781-PreSonusStudioLive328AIDatasheet.pdf

Polish? review also here: https://livesound.pl/testy/naglosni...zerokopasmowy-zestaw-glosnikowy-z-subwooferem

Google translate result for the text is not so good...

 

[MadaM]

328 is just arrived. Today some testing been done....
Very nice sounding stuff. More heavy than it looks, but really nice sounding. Not ear piercing like a few 3 letter brand thing...
AB listened with Marin F12+... the 328 really not worse than the Martin... Maybe even better
I have to check the Martin with a different amp... since the 328 was louder, and everywhere the users write these are not that loud units... compared to this and that....
Martin uses very conservative numbers (128dB with CF of 2 that is 6dB, so it would be 134db with CF of 4 or 12dB) and the 328 is listed with 133dB, but zero idea of what CF...
It was clean and LOUD for sure...

 

[Linnie]

Hello everybody,

I was curious about this review because not being an audio pro, I always wondered about these waveguides. They seem to have been quite popular back in the day. Some HiFi speakers like these Jamo were equipped with them as well:


But honestly, even after reading the thread I still don't really understand what these constructions in front of the tweeter were supposed to do (or avoid)?

 

[Curvature]

Hello everybody,

I was curious about this review because not being an audio pro, I always wondered about these waveguides. They seem to have been quite popular back in the day. Some HiFi speakers like these Jamo were equipped with them as well:

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But honestly, even after reading the thread I still don't really understand what these constructions in front of the tweeter were supposed to do (or avoid)?

They are called acoustic lenses.

 

[G|force]

My JBL 4343 came with 2308 lenses velcroed over the compression drivers. I took them off and never use them.

 

[MadaM]

Another review of the 328

TEST | Presonus StudioLive 328AI i StudioLive 18sAI - PortalNaglosnieniowy.EU

test Presonus StudioLive 328AI i Presonus StudioLive 18sAI - aktywny system nagłośnieniowy z koaksjalnymi kolumnami i zaawansowanym cyfrowym DSP

portalnaglosnieniowy.eu

 

[dasdoing]

well, a compression driver needs a horn. it presses sound through a hole after all. and horns come in different form factors to shape the dispersion.