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Preamp or no?

I came to the conclusion after many years with lots of LO series gear that it was a brilliant concept, with lots of careful engineering and expense thrown at it, but they failed to consider how the systems would perform in a typical domestic setup.
Isn't that how it often goes? I am reminded of a certain line of 2000s era TEAC CD + SACD players that decidedly were IEC Class I with their PE prominently screwed to chassis. And no, they had traditional mains transformers, if maybe of the toroidal variety. Even magazine review measurements showed the effects of a ground loop...

On the schematics for either L-05M or L-07M, I see no indications of a shield winding being present in the transformer. Power amp and larger integrated amp transformers tend to have substantial pri/sec parasitic coupling well in the hundreds of pF, so you may see dozens of Vac between chassis and the outside world if left floating. Hence hum on an open unbalanced input. Coupling is not necessarily the same for both ends of the primary winding so you may observe a difference when live and neutral are flipped (I don't think you can easily do that with Australian plugs, while here in Schuko and Euro plug land you can just turn the plug around).

A shield winding connected to secondary-side ground is an effective means to combat parasitic coupling, but you might have guessed that it makes the transformer more complex and more expensive, and definitely special order (though I think most of them are anyway, except from small boutique manufacturers).

The issue becomes even worse when SMPS-style mains filtering is involved. The classic Yamaha *60 series amps (760 and up) with their primary-side-regulated transformer supplies are one such case (it's sort of a dimmer circuit, so presumably quite noisy). If memory serves they have about 2.2 nF (Y class) caps going to both L and N from secondary-side ground in the 220-240V version, leading to substantial hum on open inputs if the unit is just sitting there by itself. The leakage currents were possibly expected to be dumped via the tuner and its antenna system at the time. (JBL 104s are like that, too. Trying to plug the audio cable into a PC is accompanied by scary levels of buzz, but once it's in they're dead silent save for a bit of internal hiss.)
Fortunately these can be modified relatively easily by just resoldering a few things (the US version gets a bit more complex, but the 220-240 V one has a convenient jumper wire on the power supply board). Basically replace the power cord by a 3-wire job, remove connection of Y cap midpoint to secondary-side / chassis ground, hook up PE wire to Y cap midpoint, hook up a ca. 4.7 nF Y class cap between PE and secondary-side ground. This way filter leakage is dumped straight into PE and what remains from transformer parasitic coupling is knocked down by the new Y class cap without creating undue potential (pardon the pun) for ground loops or hazards in case of a badly miswired outlet.
At some point this area needs attention anyway as RIFAs abound, resulting in the famous recall from several years back (I have to wonder how many people would actually want to send in their priceless relics from 40 years ago instead of fixing them for a few bucks in parts, but it was a good PR move for Yamaha if nothing else).

Anyway, back to the L-05M - if that gets unusually noisy, my primary suspects would be Ce3 (a 100µ/35V) and Ce6 (a 470µ/6.3V). You can't rule out a noisy input FET, of course, which would be a bit more tricky to address. Either way, it won't matter much for the OP's very insensitive speakers - at 84 dB/2.83V/m, even 100 µV equates to -5 dB SPL @ 1 m. This is still quieter than almost any integrated amp.

The aforementioned approach to knocking down hum from parasitic coupling could be replicated for the L-05M by grounding its GND terminal via a ca. 4.7 nF, preferably Y class capacitor.

Two amps per speaker, one for lows, one for midrange and highs.
So basically bi-wiring? It would be great if one could attenuate signal going to the mid-treble amp by about 2 dB in order to make up for the driver sensitivity mismatch, but dialing in such a small amount with no ill effects is easier said than done. A 5 or 10 kOhm passive attenuator in a box would do decently enough, or a spare headphone amp. Or a preamp, of course, but the traditional hi-fi variety with a 2-prong mains cord that doesn't spell instant ground loop if there's a PC feeding the DAC, not a Schiit Saga S.
 
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I had a D0100 pro Dac going to a Schiit Saga S to four mono block amps but I ditched the preamp and am going straight from dac to power amps using a pair of splitters. I use the volume control of the dac. Is there any reason to keep my pre amp?
In short, no.

DACs have best performance at max volume but the differences are inaudible if the processor runs at a decent bitdept like 24/96 or more (most state of the art DACs do this anyway).

Only reasons to not do this is the need for analog input channels. If you like the concept of a "digital preamp" and need more inputs or outputs, you can use an audio interface.
 
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At some point this area needs attention anyway as RIFAs abound, resulting in the famous recall from several years back (I have to wonder how many people would actually want to send in their priceless relics from 40 years ago instead of fixing them for a few bucks in parts, but it was a good PR move for Yamaha if nothing else).

Interesting. Never knew about a recall from Yamaha for Rifas. Every brand used those wretched time bomb caps.

But not limited to HiFi. Practically all the 700 series Kenwood Chef kitchen stand mixers from the mid 70s went into landfill due to them exploding, making a ton of smoke and mum throwing an otherwsie perfect kitchen mixer into the trash. Bamix stick mixers suffered the same fate.

Many turntables went into landfill due to Rifas over the arm microswitch meaning they never turned off.

It was the Rifa "death caps" that were connected from active/neutral to chassis as well as mains switch suppression caps that I still always check first thing on vintage.

Also, the Australian imported HiFi that was rewired here in the 70s and 80s that often has the most unsafe issues. Actives/Neutrals reversed, improper grounding practices and inadequate or unsafe terminations. I've seen some dreadful things done by the importers/distributors. And dealers. They would cut off the moulded two pin Yamaha plugs to make a short cable for the switched outlets on the rear, so the whole system could be switched off the amp. Because the moulded two pin AC power plug was something you couldn't buy other than cutting it off a lead. Often they'd mix up the live/neutral or just do such a bad job you could pull the cable out of the plug.
 
I ended up going back to using my Schiit Saga S pre-amp and running the DAC at full volume. While there is a little less clarity and raw detail, the body and impact/weight of sounds is better using the preamp, which I run in active mode. Using the dac alone felt lifeless and flat by comparison, but it worked fine.
 
I ended up going back to using my Schiit Saga S pre-amp and running the DAC at full volume. While there is a little less clarity and raw detail, the body and impact/weight of sounds is better using the preamp, which I run in active mode. Using the dac alone felt lifeless and flat by comparison, but it worked fine.

Hard to believe there is an actual sound difference with the amplifier and speaker in question. They are quite vintage...
 
Hard to believe there is an actual sound difference with the amplifier and speaker in question. They are quite vintage...
I was thinking of trying a Topping PRE90 + EXT90 so I can go balanced in from my dac.

Are you saying it's not worth it and I won't hear a difference? The Vandersteen 2Ce II's are pretty revealing of what they are fed, and powering them with the four Kenwood L-05M's gives them big dynamics that I had not heard before in my system.
 
I was thinking of trying a Topping PRE90 + EXT90 so I can go balanced in from my dac.

Are you saying it's not worth it and I won't hear a difference? The Vandersteen 2Ce II's are pretty revealing of what they are fed, and powering them with the four Kenwood L-05M's gives them big dynamics that I had not heard before in my system.

Value ("worth it") is subjective - I don't have first hand experience with the specific speakers or power amps but I'd expect them to be a good match based on specs and measurements. Insensitive speakers tend to like power (actually current) so I can see that a solid-state monoblocks work well and "sound different". I'm sure it is a fun system.

It is harder to argue that a specific DAC or preamp matters for sound quality - all devices that test in the "excellent" category have noise+distortion that is well below hearing threshold. Balanced only helps if there are long cable runs or ground loops .. but the amps are single ended only.
 
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