Power conditioners,strips with overcurrent protection and non filtered sockets for amps

[gasolin75]

It occurred to me while getting more information about power conditioners,power strips that my wireworld matrix 2 might be filtrede

Googled it, ai (you can't really turn ai off) say: The Wireworld Matrix 2 is a power distribution block that includes a built-in mains filter, making it a filtered power strip.

As i have read non filtered for amps so they won't take away some of the dynamics

Some like taga has both non filtered (best for amps)) and filtered sockets

TAGA Harmony PF-1000 v.2 (2022)

Power noise filter

www.tagaharmony.com

My power strip might alos not (dispite not being cheap) have overcurrent protection

Something with overcurrent protection, non filtrede for my amp, subwoofer, 6-8 sockets, good quality and low price

 

[Sokel]

Choose whatever you like but make sure it's certified to the point of no return, power strips are the cause of many fires.
A metal, grounded body would be nice too.

 

[wwenze]

Personally my power strips are all simple white plastic body that simply works.

 

[gasolin75]

Asking for advice what to buy

If i found something i wouldn't need advice

The one from taga is 175 euros, if i could find something for a little less it would be nice but i think most non expensive power strips are just a regular power strip made with better materials

It might not always have overcurrent protection and more often don't have non filtered sockets for amps

 

[voodooless]

Why do you need overcurrent protection? Your breaker box has that.

Pretty much anything you can buy will be just fine, so just get something that looks good and is within your budget.

As i have read non filtered for amps so they won't take away some of the dynamics

That is basically nonsense. If the filters are rated for the peak power of the amp, they cannot impact anything.

The whole idea of needing filtering is nonsense. All of your devices convert AC to DC, and apply their own filtering to get the best performance out of the incoming AC. No need for anything extra.

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Never mind that Denmark is among the top spots in the ranking for most stable power grids in the world.

 

[Chrise36]

It occurred to me while getting more information about power conditioners,power strips that my wireworld matrix 2 might be filtrede

Googled it, ai (you can't really turn ai off) say: The Wireworld Matrix 2 is a power distribution block that includes a built-in mains filter, making it a filtered power strip.

As i have read non filtered for amps so they won't take away some of the dynamics

Some like taga has both non filtered (best for amps)) and filtered sockets

TAGA Harmony PF-1000 v.2 (2022)

Power noise filter

www.tagaharmony.com

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My power strip might alos not (dispite not being cheap) have overcurrent protection

Something with overcurrent protection, non filtrede for my amp, subwoofer, 6-8 sockets, good quality and low price

No need for expensive power strips if you want try an automatic voltage regulator to protect the amp.

 

[amirm]

"Filtering" on typical power strip does not limit current. Only those with "series" protection can do that and they are more of an exception than the rule.

 

[gasolin75]

I don't know what it is, if if's the filter or something else, i have never heard people talk about limiting current, just a general decrease in dynamic

Like those power condtioner,strips lucid makes (only filtered), taga makes as already mentioned with both

One user review of a lucid heimdal (audiophonics) On the other hand, the integrated amp loses a lot of dynamics, so I went back to an unfiltered jack.

LUDIC HEIMDALL Filtered Power Distributor 8 Sockets Aluminum Black - Audiophonics

The Ludic Heimdall filtered power distributor effectively eliminates any unwanted interference from the power grid or other connected devices. It thus allows your devices to deliver their full potential for high quality listening.

www.audiophonics.fr

 

[alex-z]

The power supply of your devices should each have their own noise filtering and overcurrent protection. Any change in sound quality caused by a power strip or surge protector can be attributed to poor DAC or amplifier design.

Do not buy "audio" grade power distribution or surge protection unless you have a measurable problem and the product has been proved to solve it.

 

[wwenze]

I don't know what it is, if if's the filter or something else, i have never heard people talk about limiting current, just a general decrease in dynamic

Like those power condtioner,strips lucid makes (only filtered), taga makes as already mentioned with both

One user review of a lucid heimdal (audiophonics) On the other hand, the integrated amp loses a lot of dynamics, so I went back to an unfiltered jack.

LUDIC HEIMDALL Filtered Power Distributor 8 Sockets Aluminum Black - Audiophonics

The Ludic Heimdall filtered power distributor effectively eliminates any unwanted interference from the power grid or other connected devices. It thus allows your devices to deliver their full potential for high quality listening.

www.audiophonics.fr

There is no current flowing from the AC socket to your equipment 90% of the time. And somehow your equipment contains enough power "dynamic" to work so well you don't even realize there is this much duration with no incoming power. So I'd say our ears are pretty bad at detecting power "dynamic".

 

[voodooless]

One user review of a lucid heimdal (audiophonics) On the other hand, the integrated amp loses a lot of dynamics, so I went back to an unfiltered jack.

That whole review is utter nonsense . Here is the English version:

Generally beautiful sound quality, airy and balanced. Significant improvement when used with a CD player—more density and presence, fuller bass, smoother treble—of course, with a good power cable, but it turned out even better with this distributor. However, the integrated amplifier clearly loses dynamics, so it was switched back to an unfiltered outlet. An unfiltered outlet would have been welcome. The details are well-crafted, two soft switches, illuminated VU meter. This distributor is very well made.

A socket does not have sound quality, filtered or otherwise. The fact that they mention a better power cable should already raise a bunch of red flags as well.

 

[Wayne A. Pflughaupt]

Personally my power strips are all simple white plastic body that simply works.

If we’re talking about this type - I took one of those things apart once, and it’s scary how cheaply they are built. I sure wouldn’t plug anything that requires any juice into one, like an AVR or amplifier.

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt

 

[gasolin75]

If we’re talking about this type - I took one of those things apart once, and it’s scary how cheaply they are built. I sure wouldn’t plug anything that requires any juice into one, like an AVR or amplifier.

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt

They often cost less than quality power cable

 

[voodooless]

I sure wouldn’t plug anything that requires any juice into one, like an AVR or amplifier.

Why not? Even in the US, where current demands are about double from Europe, an amp or an AVR, unless it's for some serious PA, isn't exactly a huge power hog.

That thing you listed will handle 15A just fine, so unless you have an amp drawing 1.6kW constantly, you should be perfectly fine. It even has a UL listing! In Europe, most of these are rated up to 16A (which is also the default breaker fuse in most cases), giving you 3.6 kW of safe power, more than the 10A of that VU meter thing the OP showed. Though at that point, I would probably make sure the wires are at least 2.5 mm2 in diameter.

As for certification on these kind of products, that is mandatory anyway; otherwise, you cannot sell it in the EU.

 

[mcochris]

Not sure why zero-crossing or soft-start circuits aren’t more widely used in audio equipment.

A zero-crossing switch delays power-on until the AC waveform crosses zero volts.

A soft-start circuit gradually ramps up voltage to the device over a short period of time, typically under a second.

These circuits can reduce the stress on equipment with large filter capacitors like power amps.

 

[Wayne A. Pflughaupt]

Why not? Even in the US, where current demands are about double from Europe, an amp or an AVR, unless it's for some serious PA, isn't exactly a huge power hog.

That thing you listed will handle 15A just fine, so unless you have an amp drawing 1.6kW constantly, you should be perfectly fine. It even has a UL listing! In Europe, most of these are rated up to 16A (which is also the default breaker fuse in most cases), giving you 3.6 kW of safe power, more than the 10A of that VU meter thing the OP showed. Though at that point, I would probably make sure the wires are at least 2.5 mm2 in diameter. As for certification, that is mandatory anyway; otherwise, you cannot sell it in the EU.

Open one up and get back to us.

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt

 

[voodooless]

Open one up and get back to us.

So what? Does it not look audiophile enough?

 

[KenMasters]

Something with overcurrent protection, non filtrede for my amp, subwoofer, 6-8 sockets, good quality and low price

No need to overthink it, these have a reassuringly solid feel in hand with the added convenience of USB at a far friendlier price point than my previously used bulky, overengineered and light polluting Supra MD08.

 

[gasolin75]

I found the Supra MD06-EU/SP SPC to be interresting and is what i want to try, (220-230 euro), it's silver plated copper.

I have a supra power cable, just a basic one but feelt i needed something a little more different than a regular power strip to justify spending money on a different power strip

 

[Wayne A. Pflughaupt]

So what? Does it not look audiophile enough?

Don't know what "audiophile" looks like. I do know "flimsy" when I see it.

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt