My system measures better with a simple crossover to a single sub than without the sub, so I don't agree with that. Now if you want to consume that into the set of all systems need global DSP to be truly accurate at the low end then I agree
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My system measures better with a simple crossover to a single sub than without the sub, so I don't agree with that. Now if you want to consume that into the set of all systems need global DSP to be truly accurate at the low end then I agree
It would measure even better with proper DSP.
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meaningfull ? The typical speaker frequency is usually reported as ±3 dB Your rhetoric of Ignorance is not a excuse.
https://www.cedia.org/blog/how-to-understand-speaker-specs
"Usually"? I would say "often, but definitely not often enough", but your rhetoric could be an indicator of ignorance.
To quote from that document: "The most meaningful ratings include a plus/minus deviation" - exactly my point (that you seemed to take an issue with).
digicidal
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I can be as much of a crotchety old man as anyone... but WTF is up with these trolls following every single post with an attack?
Actually, it's usually only mediocre commercial passives that quote +/- 3dB specs... professional monitors are almost always more linear than that as are quite a few in the higher-end of consumer audio. A great many speakers that I'm interested in post specs that are +/- 1.5dB or similar... still others specify both sides independently (i.e. +1dB/-3dB) in reference to their sensitivity rating.
Then again it's just another ignorant rhetorical perhaps.
From the specs for Revel Ultima2 Salon2 (enough 2's Revel?):
And from Neumann it's broken down a little differently (KH 120 A G):
Actually, it's usually only mediocre commercial passives that quote +/- 3dB specs... professional monitors are almost always more linear than that as are quite a few in the higher-end of consumer audio. A great many speakers that I'm interested in post specs that are +/- 1.5dB or similar... still others specify both sides independently (i.e. +1dB/-3dB) in reference to their sensitivity rating.
Then again it's just another ignorant rhetorical perhaps.
From the specs for Revel Ultima2 Salon2 (enough 2's Revel?):
And from Neumann it's broken down a little differently (KH 120 A G):
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The frequency response if presented before a Court of Law could be part of "Usual Practice" as +- 3 dB.
This is why audio gear is (mostly) designed by engineers and not lawyers.
digicidal
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Along with almost everything else of value on this planet (well at least the man made stuff). Lawyers are good for making blank paper into
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Along with almost everything else of value on this planet (well at least the man made stuff). Lawyers are good for making blank paper intogarbageprinted statements, and very little else. Not that they don't have their place, but even my friends who are lawyers - aren't really my friends if you get my meaning.
I'm sure they love you all the same. /s
Yea , the lack of a hierarchical structure in these discussions means some folks feel the need to inject authority into their posts to provide the missing affirmation. This is done preemptively by them as a kind of insulator to the chaos and insecurity these kind of online forums can impart on individuals.I can be as much of a crotchety old man as anyone... but WTF is up with these trolls following every single post with an attack?
Actually, it's usually only mediocre commercial passives that quote +/- 3dB specs... professional monitors are almost always more linear than that as are quite a few in the higher-end of consumer audio. A great many speakers that I'm interested in post specs that are +/- 1.5dB or similar... still others specify both sides independently (i.e. +1dB/-3dB) in reference to their sensitivity rating.
Then again it's just another ignorant rhetorical perhaps.
From the specs for Revel Ultima2 Salon2 (enough 2's Revel?):
And from Neumann it's broken down a little differently (KH 120 A G):
That's my take anyhow , and yes there seems to be a bit of a breakout in terms of this happening about the forum right now.
We need to plug them ha ha
Bloody humans init.
ernestcarl
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I have... you might already have seen it here: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...ort-resonances-of-mains-in-a-2-1-setup.19039/
The advantage is hardly noticeable in systems with really well-designed ports, plus you lose bass output which is arguably more important. With the KH120s, I think it reduced some of that port 'chuffing' noise when playing at extreme levels -- still, the loss in bass SPL ain't worth-it -- so I finally decided to unblock the ports. With the S8s, I left the port bung on since I did not need the extra bass output and -- this could totally be my imagination (can't A/B this instantaneously like with a simple convolution switch) - it sounded a touch 'cleaner' in the bass.
Can you spot an advantage (ports sealed vs open) in the attached measurements? After opening the ports, only changes I made were to reduce the gain around 56 Hz and 70 Hz (due to overall bass boost after unsealing) -- as well as tweaking my phase correction a bit. A cursory look at the graphs seem to show little to no advantage in this particular scenario.
*speakers are with sub
