Poll: Which Ascilab Speakers Are You Interested In?

[RickS]

Lars called it the world's first custom designed waveguide for the Purifi driver.

Ascilab saids they would absolutely design their own custom waveguide when news of the Purifi driver was close.

These Ascilab guys seems to be experts in waveguide design.

While my comment applies to both, meant the tweeter from Purifi (larger waveguide one is still not shipping) vs the custom Ascilab version. Until these designs are much more available, is difficult to judge the incremental value of the Purifi tweeter.

 

[axleone]

I am not buying now but I generally like sealed speakers. F6Bs for me with option to listen and return is not to my liking,

 

[Hipster Doofus]

ORANGE AND BLUE OPTIONS PLEASE WITH BLACK OR GRAPHITE CABINETS

 

[Lars Risbo]

As I recall, both the woofer and tweeter had notch filters. Implementing them would make for a high parts count crossover.

Just to clarify: Notch filters are a system design choice. you can have them or leave them out. not a property of the drivers.

 

[Lars Risbo]

tweeter is still not available with the larger waveguide

we can ship it with the 147mm waveguide and some OEMs use it already. We have not finished the data sheet for it so it does not show up in our web. Ascilab can design their own that matches their box.

 

[RickS]

Just to clarify: Notch filters are a system design choice. you can have them or leave them out. not a property of the drivers.

Yes, and there is a detailed discussion of potential notch filtering for the woofer here: https://purifi-audio.com/blog/app-notes-2/low-distortion-filter-for-ptt6-5x04-naa-11

While concede there may be other mitigations, as tweeter data sheet suggests, the notch filter is proposed to deal with driver resonance (notably for a typical passive crossover).

 

[Puddingbuks]

I only want active speakers.

 

[DearSX]

I only want active speakers.

same here, I take my bookshelves with me on walks every morning.

 

[greyscale]

Have any of these speakers been heard by anyone?. Perhaps at a show?.

 

[Purité Audio]

I have at least the released models here.
Keith

 

[amirm]

Have any of these speakers been heard by anyone?. Perhaps at a show?.

A few members have received theirs. And if course I have heard them.

 

[AsciLab]

I like the A6B. Keeping it was a good call. The Purifi tweeter could easily add another $1000 to the price of a pair. Might be worth it for some, but unlikely for me.

A6B will be released.
Though our roadmap doesn’t include A6B, we decided to release it too.
Sorry for confusion.

 

[AsciLab]

As for any egging, unless Ascilab uses a custom waveguide, the Purifi tweeter is still not available with the larger waveguide. Interestingly, the resulting product would be very similar to the Purifi SPK16 Reference Design. Another cost challenge could be the added notch filtering in the crossover. As I recall, both the woofer and tweeter had notch filters. Implementing them would make for a high parts count crossover.

We had to design our own waveguide to keep our identical design. Yes it is very similar with SPK16, a little less wide dispersion though. SPK16 has +/-70deg over the tweeter band while our design will have +/-60deg.

For my impression of the PTT1.3T, it is another league. Improved Micro and macro detail, hard to feel any compression, top frequency detail makes me hard to believe it is 33mm dome. If someone who wants a highest quality in compact size, S6B will fit.
10 deg wider dispersion than our previous model also can help enjoy wide yet focusing sound stage. Lot of thanks for designing this ultimate driver to @Lars Risbo

It is somewhat nerdy information though, S6B tweeter H3 distortion can go down to -90dB. I’ve never seen it before. We believe that low hysteresis distortion is the key to get transparent sound quality.

Additionally, we have two notch filters to each driver. Yes. The crossover panel is so big and heavy..

 

[mi-fu]

I’d like the C6B in modern grey (piano finish) with the modern grey waveguide. The only question is whether I should wait for the active speaker version.

 

[Robbo99999]

We had to design our own waveguide to keep our identical design. Yes it is very similar with SPK16, a little less wide dispersion though. SPK16 has +/-70deg over the tweeter band while our design will have +/-60deg.

For my impression of the PTT1.3T, it is another league. Improved Micro and macro detail, hard to feel any compression, top frequency detail makes me hard to believe it is 33mm dome. If someone who wants a highest quality in compact size, S6B will fit.
10 deg wider dispersion than our previous model also can help enjoy wide yet focusing sound stage. Lot of thanks for designing this ultimate driver to @Lars Risbo

It is somewhat nerdy information though, S6B tweeter H3 distortion can go down to -90dB. I’ve never seen it before. We believe that low hysteresis distortion is the key to get transparent sound quality.

Additionally, we have two notch filters to each driver. Yes. The crossover panel is so big and heavy..

It sounds like it could be a pinnacle product (I think I made up that term)! Even though we're probably gonna see really low distortion in that product with the sophisticated "specialist" drivers I'm not sure how audible the advantages are gonna be versus other well measuring speakers (even amoungst your own range) that use less exotic drivers - maybe when pushed at very high SPL, but it's a bit of grey area I think. I think on a technical engineering level it's great to have pinnacle products like this, I'm just not sure how relatable that is to real world audible differences. I haven't got an axe to grind on this, and I'm not after a long back & forth discussion but it was a point that came into my brain when I've been reading in this thread about these top of the line products.

 

[JeremyFife]

Thanks so much you all. Could use some feedback on colors.

This is very personal ... I don't like contrasting colours or funky/colourful(garish) combinations. Speakers are fairly prominent in a room and they need to survive redecoration. Black/Black is fine, White/white works as does white with black cones (just). Everything else is too much.

A nice, real wood veneer would help

(as would correct spelling of colour )

 

[Urib]

As hopefully most of you have read, I have started a new venture to distribute/market Ascilab speakers. We have to shortly put in an order for the initial shipment. Key is deciding which models to bring here. Hate to bring too many of one, and then run out of another. I would very much appreciate it if the North American members vote in the poll which models they would seriously consider purchasing and if so, what color preference you have (white, black and I think silver is available). There are three models, two of which I have reviewed and the third one, Erin has:

F6Bs sealed bookshelf: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/ascilab-f6bs-speaker-review.63324/

Sealed compact bookshelf. Approximate cost: $725.

F6B passive radiator bookshelf: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...s/ascilab-f6b-bookshelf-speaker-review.63387/

Larger cabinet with passive radiator. Approximate pricing is $835 a pair.

C6B:

I have not reviewed this as mentioned but is the F6B with higher fidelity mid-woofer. Approximate cost: $1,145.

If anyone wants to make sure you get a unit, please send me a message with title of ASCILAB Purchase and mention which model you want to be inline for.

Current delivery forecast is two months from now.

You are welcome to also post and comment on what you think will be popular if don't intend to purchase.

Much appreciated.

C6b thx

 

[ckernel8]

I'm looking forward to the bass modules that tightly integrate with the bookshelf speakers. That could be the ultimate game changer for me if they're cheaper than Amphion's passive studio monitor version and instead have integrated plate amps (for both the bookshelf and the bass unit, or a simple connection from the bass unit to the bookshelf speaker to power it.

 

[Puddingbuks]

I'm looking forward to the bass modules that tightly integrate with the bookshelf speakers. That could be the ultimate game changer for me if they're cheaper than Amphion's passive studio monitor version and instead have integrated plate amps (for both the bookshelf and the bass unit, or a simple connection from the bass unit to the bookshelf speaker to power it.

Why is this a gamer changer for you? Having the subs in the main stereo positions means you cant use the perfect spot for combatting standing waves and room modes. Two subwoofers can be placed anywhere.

 

[Puddingbuks]

I'm more than likely not buying but I really like the A6B. I have a thing for Purifi woofers.
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Martin

Why this speaker and not the almost equally priced

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