Poll, what styles of music genres do you very regularly listen to? You who vote for: Other, please tell us which genre it is. We are curious.

[amirm]

EDM is essentially an outgrowth of disco, and I don’t see why lovers of to disco or those who dance disco would not think of themselves as music lovers. (and it seems that would extend to EDM).

Disco music fell out of favor decades ago in US. I always find it strange when I listen to European pop music and hear that signature drum loops and such. So some of the commentary you hear about EDM is likely cultural.

Me personally, I enjoy listening to some of it and per my previous note, have them in my reference music library. I do get tired of them though more than other types of music.

 

[Kal Rubinson]

PS Possibly controversial : But I think that the majority of opera needs either a script and/or subtitles.
Completely unintelligible. Occasionally painfully so.

Many opera houses now have sub- or super-titles and most attendees prepare in advance so as to understand what's going on. Some others don't care about plot or lyrics and just enjoy the music.

Deriding modern music is doubtless (almost) as old as music itself methinks.

Even though I qualify as an old fart, I do like modern music but not all of it. I'm guessing you don't like all of it, either, e.g., modern opera.

 

[Chr1]

Opera : I love parts of Madame Butterfly
(by way of the film "Diva") and a couple of other things I've heard but can't name unfortunately.

Unfortunately, my mother played it loud when I was a youth and it kinda put me off. The subtitle thing was just me using it as a reference to how we try to objectively justify our subjective opinions (on whatever genre of music we don't particularly like.)
Opera, EDM or whatever.

No offence intended.

 

[Sokel]

PS Possibly controversial : But I think that the majority of opera needs either a script and/or subtitles.

Is called libretto.
And it's there as long as there's Opera.

For many reasons

(Baritones at their lows are the best to test mains+subs, badly done and their voices sound like coming out of a mouth the size of a cave, not man and they are diffused all over the place)

 

[Somafunk]

Rick "who doesn't know a single person of any age who would identify as a music lover who is 'into' electronic dance music as their primary genre" Denn

I know numerous folk who’d laugh and shake their head at such a comment and mention, “that's someone who ain’t lived nor popped shitloads of mdma through the UK/Scottish techno/rave or dance music scene throughout the 90’s and 2000’s………”

Electronic/Techno/Electronica/Ambient Electronic music is 90%+ of my listening and my 2tb library will be 80%+ electronic (age 52), my best mate is very similar to myself (age 45) her fav electronic artist is probably a toss up between Underworld or James Lavelle/UNKLE.

I could go on and name 10 of my mates (ages from 40 to 65 ) with favourites from breakbeat to 130bpm techno to house music to out n out hardcore……

My mum (age 69) does her 15km daily walking route round the coastline here with playlists I put together for her as the tempo of the music keeps her upbeat and walking fast.

Not everyone likes dull as dishwater music such as Norah jones / dire straits/ old 70’s rock music etc

 

[rdenney]

I know numerous folk who’d laugh and shake their head at such a comment and mention, “that's someone who ain’t lived nor popped shitloads of mdma through the UK/Scottish techno/rave or dance music scene throughout the 90’s and 2000’s………”

Electronic/Techno/Electronica/Ambient Electronic music is 90%+ of my listening and my 2tb library will be 80%+ electronic (age 52), my best mate is very similar to myself (age 45) her fav electronic artist is probably a toss up between Underworld or James Lavelle/UNKLE.

I could go on and name 10 of my mates (ages from 40 to 65 ) with favourites from breakbeat to 130bpm techno to house music to out n out hardcore……

My mum (age 69) does her 15km daily walking route round the coastline here with playlists I put together for her as the tempo of the music keeps her upbeat and walking fast.

Not everyone likes dull as dishwater music such as Norah jones / dire straits/ old 70’s rock music etc

Thump, thump, thump, thump…

Sigh.

Rick “dull as dishwater” Denney

 

[Somafunk]

Thump, thump, thump, thump…

Sigh.

Rick “dull as dishwater” Denney

Thump….thump….thump….thump….?

Ooooh man I know and recognise that tune……what a belter and fine….fine choice indeed …..I love it when the dj cuts the highs and mids out and hits the flanger on the bass and builds it whomp…..whomp…..whomp… whomp with oodles of reverb back into the drop…..then holds it……and holds it…..and holds it….and holds it ………then BAM……..we’re all off again and marching…marching…..marching…with grins so feckin wide that we look like Cheshire cats that got the cream…….

Feckin love that tune, thanks for reminding me….i’m away to listen to it on my twin dual opposed subs and 3way active monitors setup at a volume that rattles my bones

 

[Liberal Democracy]

Thump, thump, thump, thump…

Sigh.

Rick “dull as dishwater” Denney

The good stuffs more ..., eeishh , eeishh , eeishh , eeishh ..., Beers and a mixed Shish , possible a feel and sheath, if ones lucky . Of course come the light of mornings blaze , one might rapidly reassess the ' lucky ' bit .

Now go do it right and then report back , if indeed you survive to tell the tale .

Thomas ' mornings a buzz kill ' Savage

 

[rdenney]

The good stuffs more ..., eeishh , eeishh , eeishh , eeishh ..., Beers and a mixed Shish , possible a feel and sheath, if ones lucky . Of course come the light of mornings blaze , one might rapidly reassess the ' lucky ' bit .

Now go do it right and then report back , if indeed you survive to tell the tale .

Thomas ' mornings a buzz kill ' Savage

Thomas, there are times when your brain goes places I can't follow

But, yeah. "Do you feel that beat?" "Yeah!" And the subsequent morning's pounding headache that keeps time with it. Same thing happened when it was my turn, but the beat was differently presented.

Rick "not a dancer" Denney

 

[krabapple]

Derision based on modernity? Huh?

Is EDM the primary genre of a particular generation? Didn't you say you were 60?

Most of the people in my circle listen to 1.) Bluegrass, 2.) Country, 3.) Classical, 4.) Jazz, 5.) Rock, but not the rock music that falls within EDM, and 6.) Hip-Hop.

And I listen to plenty of electronic music, but not the sort that would be easy to dance to. (Prog, etc.)

For the people I know, EDM is stuff they listen to (or used to listen to) in nightclubs, and the beat was the accepted accompaniment to drinking, socializing, and dancing. But if they went to a concert or played music in their car or home, that's not what they were listening to.

For the record, I was NOT "zeroing in" on EDM, but rather deflecting the person to whom I was responding, who was indeed "zeroing in" on EDM.

Rick "seeing real derision in the opera comment" Denney

Anecdotally, I've noticed over the years , in audio forums generally, going all the way back to my first days on rec.audio (Usenet) and hydrogenaudio (web), there is an overrepresentation of fans of EDM and......metal?

Go figure. It may just be an Internet thing.

 

[krabapple]

Disco music fell out of favor decades ago in US.

I always find it strange when I listen to European pop music and hear that signature drum loops and such. So some of the commentary you hear about EDM is likely cultural.

Me personally, I enjoy listening to some of it and per my previous note, have them in my reference music library. I do get tired of them though more than other types of music.

The classic disco beat did, but dance music certainly didn't, disco morphed into numerous subgenres, also starting in clubs.

(Hey look! Stupid AI on stupid google agrees with me :

Dance music evolved from early forms like disco in the 1970s to various subgenres like house, techno, and rave in the 90s, leading to the EDM explosion and dubstep in the 2000s. Recent trends include a blend of dance-pop with R&B, synth-pop, and indie/alternative elements.)


There's a fascinating video I watched once on EDM evolution, year by year, but naturally I can't find the exact one I'm thinking with something so mundane as a *youtube search*. But plenty such videos exists. Hats off to the obsessives fans who can distinguish between its multiverse-like subgenres. (Wait, that's true of every genre, isn't it?)

I figure I first noticed EDM around the turn of the millennium, e.g, hearing 'Sandstorm' (2000) on the American version of Queer as Folk, and there was also that vogue in comic book/horror movies of having a scene set in a club with blue strobe lights and EDM blaring out. Think 'Blade' (1998).

 

[krabapple]

This is turning into another incoherent mess.

'Another incoherent mess' would make a great thread title.

Thump, thump, thump, thump…

Sigh.

Rick “dull as dishwater” Denney

I believe the term of art is 'oontz oontz oontz' but I may be misremembering.

 

[Soniclife]

Thomas, there are times when your brain goes places I can't follow

I think the trick is to read it at the speed he typed it at. A similar and longer versions of his story below.

 

[rdenney]

After making the case in (what became) this thread that EDM wasn't as ubiquitous as seemed to be being represented, I just spend the last four days at a conference in Florida listening to: EDM. Constantly. E-ver-y-where. In the Uber cars, in the restaurants, in the hotel lobbies, at the airport, on the street, in the bars--everywhere.



Rick "hereby withdrawing his claim" Denney

 

[Robin L]

I don't know if EDM is my "primary" genre, or even how much of what I listen to fits into a nebulous genre definition. I definitely do listen to a lot of electronic music though. And for certain, it sounds a helluva lot better on my primary Revel surround system (the W553Ls are somewhat comparable to the F35s in a lot of respects) than on any Bluetooth speaker in existence.

Speaking as a classical music snob (currently listening to Haydn's Symphony # 88, Bruno Walter, Columbia Symphony Orchestra) the words of David Letterman (or words to that effect) come to mind:

"This is not a competition, this is an exhibition. No Wagering".

I like listening to EMD, mainly because of that "fun bass".

 

[Robin L]

PS Possibly controversial : But I think that the majority of opera needs either a script and/or subtitles.
Completely unintelligible. Occasionally painfully so.
My 2c.

The San Francisco Opera had (has?) supertitles. They work quite well and they were controversial. A contingent complained that they "dummed down" the proceedings. There's no doubt that opera has a certain "snob appeal". To be fully understood in the 21st century opera requires the sort of academic background a typical music lover lacks. I think it's not such a universal language. Then again, there's plenty of niche musical genres. It's the rare weirdo willing to take them all on.

 

[Chr1]

Having stuck up for electronic music earlier, I should probably say that, though I currently listen to more of it than other styles, there's very few genres that I don't like at least some of.

Save perhaps Spice Girls, boyband, ultra-processed/contrived pop.

Saying that, I will confess to having a deranged soft spot for the woeful pop detritus : "Barbie Girl".

So bad, it's actually good.

 

[Timcognito]

For all you new to EDM might I suggest the Kompakt Total. There are 24 of them representing that years output of the Kompakt label. On most streaming services

 

[Chr1]

I'll second that. Top label out of Cologne.
Got 'em all.

 

[xanalog]

Little OT: Our cable company (as w/many cable operators) provide ~50 music-channels, lo-Q but 24/7... with no DJs, no adds, no interruptions and for free.

These stream-like 'curated' music channels are provided by an entity called MusicChoice.
Recently, during their refresh-update, they announced that their "Alt." music-channel was being discontinued.
No other channels (of ~50) are being discontinued and there is a new added channel called "Alt & Rock Favorites".

What would be the reason for such a music service to ONLY discontinue their Alternative channel?
Is Alternative music scene on CPR?
What kind of financial decisions may have lead to axing Alt. from their large line-up?
Could there be some contentions about MusicChoice's residuals?

I'll delete this post on request, as I don't mean to rob this thread!