PMC result6 Monitor Review

[amirm]

These speakers are an entry level studio monitors, not hifi speakers for home listening.

Entry level monitors are in $500 range.

As to home listening, their competitors such as Genelec and Neumann sound superb. You are claiming that these brands aren't good for studio use???

 

[Bubblegamma]

They’re entry level in PMC line.

As for Neumann - they had 150-100ms of rt60 from 2k and above in my space because of their narrow dispersion. Not good for my studio for sure. Didn’t have genelecs here, but they’re even more narrow if I remember correctly. With focals I get recommended 200ms

 

[mcdn]

So, I’m not saying these PMCs are ideal, I actually find them a bit overpriced. But in some situations they can be quite preferable

No speaker can match your specific console bounce and room issues, so if you are a professional you must use EQ. Even if the FR was flat they would still have some serious directivity and bass issues.

 

[Bubblegamma]

They have a ‘built-in’ eq for quite a common issue, what’s the problem?

If they don’t fit you space just don’t buy them

 

[Bubblegamma]

No speaker can match your specific console bounce and room issues, so if you are a professional you must use EQ. Even if the FR was flat they would still have some serious directivity and bass issues.

Bass issues - maybe. Depends on the room as well
As for directivity I already answered about it

 

[amirm]

They have a ‘built-in’ eq for quite a common issue, what’s the problem?

If they don’t fit you space just don’t buy them

I thought I had heard every excuse for poor performance but here we are...

 

[Bubblegamma]

Well, sometimes a ‘poor performance’ for fancy graphs lovers is a flat frequency response in a real life use case think about it

 

[Bubblegamma]

It’s so funny that on a forum dedicated to ‘science’ people fail to grasp that we don’t listen to speakers in anechoic chambers. Rooms are different, use cases are different. And thank god we have many options besides best-ever-sounding-unmatched-performance Neumann and Genelec

 

[amirm]

Well, sometimes a ‘poor performance’ for fancy graphs lovers is a flat frequency response in a real life use case think about it

The "fancy graph lovers" go by decades of research that indicates what is proper sound reproduction. The fancy graph haters on the other hand, continue to use broken speakers to create random mixes that never translate to what we hear. In the process, they are spitting on the face of the talent that is trusting them to do things right.

Come back when you have a modicum of learning on your part. Your appeal to yourself is of no value here.

 

[amirm]

It’s so funny that on a forum dedicated to ‘science’ people fail to grasp that we don’t listen to speakers in anechoic chambers.

We know you don't know the science. Don't go out of your way to prove it.

Since you won't bother to educate yourself, here is the quick summary. Listening tests were performed to find out what speakers people liked. Then a specific set of measurements made in anechoic chamber were shown to be highly predictive of that preference. As it turns out, those measurements had to be flat on axis, and smooth and correlated off-axis. This speaker violates both of those. And to extreme.

 

[Bubblegamma]

‘Decades of research’ where? In studios?

Come back when you have a modicum of learning on your part. Your appeal to yourself is of no value here.

that was quite rude

 

[Bubblegamma]

Since you won't bother to educate yourself, here is the quick summary. Listening tests were performed to find out what speakers people liked. Then a specific set of measurements made in anechoic chamber were shown to be highly predictive of that preference. As it turns out, those measurements had to be flat on axis, and smooth and correlated off-axis. This speaker violates both of those. And to extreme.

This has nothing to do with studio work

How far were the speakers? Did the listeners have desks/consoles in front of them? Were these tests conducted in dampened rooms?

 

[amirm]

This has nothing to do with studio work

It has a ton to do with studio work, lest you want people to only listen to music in said studio.

 

[Bubblegamma]

But I hope you’re agree that studio acoustics is different from home hifi listening environment, right?

Again, how far were the speakers? Did the listeners have desks/consoles in front of them? Were these tests conducted in dampened rooms?

 

[amirm]

‘Decades of research’ where? In studios?

There is essentially zero research done by people for studio work. Why do that when you can just follow folklore from each other???

Fortunately the message is translating upstream with major monitor companies producing some of the best neutral speakers there are.

The laggards like you remain.

 

[amirm]

But I hope you’re agree that studio acoustics is different from home hifi listening environment, right?

Absolutely not. Whatever you hear in your studio, we want to hear. Work on a colored speakers and you will make mix decisions that cause us to hear a completely different presentation. It is called standards. We have them in video where product and playback are calibrated to same. For some reason Pros think their poo smells better and are above this kind of standardization.

 

[Bubblegamma]

There is essentially zero research done by people for studio work.

Could you please share some of it?

 

[amirm]

Again, how far were the speakers? Did the listeners have desks/consoles in front of them? Were these tests conducted in dampened rooms?

The heck you talking about? How do you know any of this about any studio setup?

 

[amirm]

Could you please share some of it?

You want me to do your homework?

 

[Bubblegamma]

The heck you talking about? How do you know any of this about any studio setup?

Well, if you had any experience in studio work, you would know for example that 200-400hz peaks and 1khz dips are quite common in studios when near field monitors are used