I agree with posting AI answers (other than for fun, malicious delight, and some other edge cases), but I think AI summaries are distinctly different and can be very useful in these kinds of cases.
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Please don't post full transcript of videos
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Thats better than a transcriptThere should just be XenForo plugin that adds an AI summary of YouTube videos by default
Here is what fabric can do on ASR's latest YouTube video:
./fabric -y "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpt6cwYFdxs" --stream --pattern summarize
This is using 8B Deepseek-r1, so give it some slack
30 minute nonsense rambling by the typical youtuber is no better as a transcript .
Spoken and written word are different media . You formulate yourself differently in text .
Summaries by AI is middle ground that could be useful for this ?
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Roland68
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But there is a fundamental problem that the AI operators are aware of.
Who feeds the AIs? The people with the specialist knowledge are too expensive for that and are busy with more important things.
We already have a few posts here with incorrect information from AIs that should actually come from data sheets, with incorrect measurements, completely wrong dates, etc. But many other things are also not displayed correctly. Should we leave it as it is, or do we have to sacrifice mod or user resources to correct it every time?
It seems that the next generations will always be the same, how can we put that in a friendly way?
In any case, over the last 25 years, school books in Germany and the EU have had to be downsized and reprinted several times, and by that I don't mean the size.
I don't know how it is in other parts of the world, but AIs are more likely to cause this problem to escalate. We should counteract this at every point.
We don't need AI for that; we humans are perfectly capable of doing that ourselves, and there are plenty of forum posts as evidence of this
As with all tools, you have to know how to use them to extract the right things out of them. You once had to learn to hold the knife not at the sharp end to slice your chicken, didn't you ? Just don't pretend you can stop this technology trend. Better to quickly learn how to deal with it.Anyway, as I already mentioned, summarizing text is something different than coming up with answers and trying to reason your way out of a question (which it often fails at, for now at least). Sure, it can still make mistakes in making summaries, but much less so because it needs to work with what is there and doesn't have to add to it.
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No.
JayGilb
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Amir's site == Amir's policy. Whether or not I like it does not matter. I can change the channel if it offends my sensibilities.
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Amir's audio wisdom via a video or text is sublime;although in honesty I prefer his videos,intonation of voice provides additional communication etc.Its his site,so let his genius decide.We are all truly grateful for his outstanding work,the Nobel prize of audio goes to.....
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No, there is a "many videos are a really inefficient and time consuming way to convey information" vibe. Especially when they are padded out with a lot of excess and irrelevant chat. Particularly common when videos are monetised.
The only time they are really useful, is when the video can actually show something happening/being done that couldn't be shown easily with a static image.
I don't think anybody is going to fight this. Half of us are saying YouTube is crap. 1/10th are saying that people have short atten... The rest are saying to do what Amir says, which we were all going to do anyway.
I'm solidly in the first camp!
I'm solidly in the first camp!
That's my opinion as well. Inefficient!!! Working on a car engine, yes; showing information about a DAC, no.
YouTube is just as crap as any other (social) media. Good videos, like good articles, are just hard to find and sparse.
Almost all links posted in an ASR first post are of a similar modus operandi: someone said/wrote something stupid on the internet and we have to complain
The only difference is that you have to actually watch it to find out, while usually in a text article you know after the introduction what is going on. So I can understand that it’s less efficient.
That’s exactly the reason why the policy is to add a summary to a video link. That way you can decide to watch it, … or not.
Almost all links posted in an ASR first post are of a similar modus operandi: someone said/wrote something stupid on the internet and we have to complain
The only difference is that you have to actually watch it to find out, while usually in a text article you know after the introduction what is going on. So I can understand that it’s less efficient.
That’s exactly the reason why the policy is to add a summary to a video link. That way you can decide to watch it, … or not.
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Plus you have to turn off the music or whatever else you've got going....
I will only ever watch a YouTube video if it's an instructional video, or a documentary. I refuse to waste the limited time I have left on this planet massaging the egos of gurning idiots who can't dress properly, can't speak English properly, and generally show signs of poor personal hygiene.
As such, whether I can have a transcript or not is irrelevant. Youtube shouldn't be encouraged.
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As such, whether I can have a transcript or not is irrelevant. Youtube shouldn't be encouraged.
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Plus, given the nature of this forum, I imagine many of us are already listening to music. The great thing about reading is that you can do it while listening
I agree with @amirm and surprised there is any pushback for his request.
It is not the forum members’ nor anyone else responsibility to post a transcription of any video created by someone else. If someone wants a transcript they can generate it themselves.
Respect the forum owner and their rules to protect from any liability.
It is not the forum members’ nor anyone else responsibility to post a transcription of any video created by someone else. If someone wants a transcript they can generate it themselves.
Respect the forum owner and their rules to protect from any liability.
Despise AI. Dumbing down of the population. If someone can't bother to write a very brief summary of what they think others may like, why bother posting the video? Surely we are still capable of doing our hobbies ourselves.
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