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Apart from the shockingly terrible content, those websites that bombard you with tripe, adverts and low brow AI material, also typically also most likely to be big on tracking and privacy invading elements.

Dunno about the rest, but I'm already sick of seeing any AI slop.

Even before that I was already tired of everything being a ragefaced attention seeking bait.
 
Maybe. Or just quote at length.
Yes, that does seem workable, in fact I was considering suggesting it except for concern about ©
AI outputs are considered non-copyrightable anyway...
...ah, that is very good to know, and makes the whole idea of long-quoting seem like a solution.
Either way, deleting the link is a good idea because having a link to your site from ASR helps the site in question rank higher in Google results. They haven't earned that!
Fully agree. I was more angling towards not discussing it at all, or at least not mentioning the site by name.

cheers
 
I do respect this decision, but ....... eeeemmm, what is wrong with AI created content? Is it toxic as such?
My rule is that using AI is fine as long as you know more than it and can catch the mistakes that it makes. Sort of like a professor having a student help him with research. In the case of the site in question, clearly the role is reversed, assuming any review of AI text is done at all. In the last article posted, it seemed for example that words were put in the mouths of the experts quoted. It got us discussing things that were most likely not true at all.
 
Originality.ai thinks of itself as the "Most Accurate AI Detector" but that would be yesterday's news:
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My next attempt should be to seek "alternatives to originality.ai detector".
 
My rule is that using AI is fine as long as you know more than it and can catch the mistakes that it makes. Sort of like a professor having a student help him with research. In the case of the site in question, clearly the role is reversed, assuming any review of AI text is done at all. In the last article posted, it seemed for example that words were put in the mouths of the experts quoted. It got us discussing things that were most likely not true at all.
Good rule. But, many will probably only believe, they know more, because AI will get smarter each year to come... until no one will be able to tell AI from not AI.
Not optimistic, I know.
 
Way may get a new luddite movement soon. Only this time, it won't be just angry workers fearing for their jobs, it'll be people fearing we lose parts of the essence of humanity. Thinking and feeling for and by ourselves. The certainty of what you see and hear is real. The fear of losing control entirely to a handful of tech companies amassing influence and power like in the worst cyberpunk dystopias. That's much, much worse.

There is a growing resistance, I see this in the arts. Ironically, it's often electronic music artists who explicitly state they'll never use AI for anything in their art, which is machine music in essence. They state the human element is essential and can't be replaced. This is analogous to IT experts refusing to use and warning of smart home things, because they know best how dangerous it is.
 
But, homo sapiens is a lazy species most of the time, and AI can be very convenient.
 
Way may get a new luddite movement soon. Only this time, it won't be just angry workers fearing for their jobs, it'll be people fearing we lose parts of the essence of humanity. Thinking and feeling for and by ourselves. The certainty of what you see and hear is real. The fear of losing control entirely to a handful of tech companies amassing influence and power like in the worst cyberpunk dystopias. That's much, much worse.
This is really the message of cyberpunk stories in general. Corporate overgrowth + AI + merger of man and machine = loss of humanity / catastrophe. They saw it coming in the '80s.

If you listen to "leaders" in the AI space, the only ones who claim to know what will happen after AI becomes more capable than humans also (if you read between the lines) sound like they're calling for the human race to be wiped out and replaced with human-machine hybrids of some kind, possibly at their direction. The sane ones don't claim to know what will happen at all.

There are no works of fiction I can think of where humans peacefully co-exist with AI that's smarter than humans.

What I'm saying is, we seem to lack the ability to even conceptualize the consequences of what we're doing, let alone think it through, let alone manage the process successfully. "Everyone loses their job because AI can do it better" would just be act 1 in a totally unpredictable drama.

A new "luddite" movement (butlerian jihad?) might be the smart move.

Of course, if we get these all-powerful machines, the utopian vision that Musk talks about, where AI and robots do all the work, and everyone gets to live high on the hog for free, is just as plausible, but ironically only if guys like him aren't given the chance to hoard it all...
 
They could probably be "appeased" by "helicopter money" (AI will be taxed), before the growth might stall. Or "eliminated" to deter others...

The other part of the dystopia: What will the jobless freed from the need to work be doing with the sudden spare time?
It's not good for many people (who are less lucky with thinking) to have too much spare time.
 
They could probably be "appeased" by "helicopter money" (AI will be taxed), before the growth might stall. Or "eliminated" to deter others...

The other part of the dystopia: What will the jobless freed from the need to work be doing with the sudden spare time?
It's not good for many people (who are less lucky with thinking) to have too much spare time.
That's exactly how you get big wars. Too many frustrated, jobless young people without perspective. Only slightly exaggerated (if any), we already have a whole young generation right now who have no hopes of times getting better anytime soon, only worse. What happens when it reaches critical mass?

It's scary. In 5-10 years, we'll have another young generation who are completely used to not using, but needing AI for every mental task. Research. Writing. Doing schoolwork and uni papers. What will that do to their minds?

Those "brainrot" memes are nothing and harmless. The real brainrot happening right now, before our eyes, is too many people blindly relying on AI assistance and slowly losing critical thinking ability. What will another generation look like that never really learned it in the first place? Nothing good can come from that.
 
That's exactly how you get big wars. Too many frustrated, jobless young people without perspective. Only slightly exaggerated (if any), we already have a whole young generation right now who have no hopes of times getting better anytime soon, only worse. What happens when it reaches critical mass?

It's scary. In 5-10 years, we'll have another young generation who are completely used to not using, but needing AI for every mental task. Research. Writing. Doing schoolwork and uni papers. What will that do to their minds?

Those "brainrot" memes are nothing and harmless. The real brainrot happening right now, before our eyes, is too many people blindly relying on AI assistance and slowly losing critical thinking ability. What will another generation look like that never really learned it in the first place? Nothing good can come from that.
Theoretically yes, practically, the invention of mass production, or Internet, were similarly disruptive, just not as fast as AI.
As the German saying goes: Nothing is eaten as hot as it's cooked (nichts wird so heiß gegessen, wie es gekocht wird).
Maybe they'll study to avoid boredom?
OTOH, two world wars in the 20th century... and people get crazy anywhere you look... the next, nuclear, would be the last.
And, many if not most cannot lose critical thinking ability at all, because they've never had it.
 
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The other part of the dystopia: What will the jobless freed from the need to work be doing with the sudden spare time?
It's not good for many people (who are less lucky with thinking) to have too much spare time.
Everyone brings up this as a possible roadblock to a work-less utopia, but I think it's a specious idea.

We already have millions of people with no jobs, at leisure, receiving public benefits or with even more money at their disposal, and they are not causing too much trouble - many (not all) of them are pretty stupid and ignorant - we call them retirees.


Just think about it like this, everyone is allowed to retire early. Doesn't sound that bad when you put it that way.

And just because nobody will pay you to do something AI does better, doesn't mean you have to stop doing it, in this scenario. If you enjoy stamping papers in an office and need that to remain sane... by all means keep doing it. You'll just get paid the same as someone who stays home drinking beer in a hammock, hope that's OK.

You always hear concerns like "people derive self-worth from work" but once we are able to separate "work" from "need money to provide for myself and my family" I think we'll see the problem solve itself. People with enough money to not work don't seem to struggle with self-worth as a rule.

People want to be useful to their families and communities, but AI taking over just means you can do that without worrying about making it profitable.

That's exactly how you get big wars. Too many frustrated, jobless young people without perspective. Only slightly exaggerated (if any), we already have a whole young generation right now who have no hopes of times getting better anytime soon, only worse. What happens when it reaches critical mass?
If jobs continue to be eliminated without spreading the wealth around, I think it could get really bad.

If we get the utopian version, and simply no longer need to work, I don't predict as much trouble. The ski resorts and beaches will be pretty crowded, but maybe that will be the worst of it.

Those "brainrot" memes are nothing and harmless. The real brainrot happening right now, before our eyes, is too many people blindly relying on AI assistance and slowly losing critical thinking ability. What will another generation look like that never really learned it in the first place? Nothing good can come from that.

This is a real, parallel problem. I just had a kid and I'm going to discourage AI use as much as I can when she's older, except as a sort of casual search engine or something. If it's an intellectual vampire, at least I won't invite it in.

In the future I think there's a possibility of a very dramatic 3-tier class system taking shape: Top tier: People descended from today's oligarchs, born rich. 2nd tier: The few people who manage to do enough thinking and learning for themselves to be trusted to manage the AI. Not rich compared to top tier, but motivated to avoid the fate of the: 3rd tier: Brain rotted masses who are totally economically obviated by AI. Similar to the stratification and inequality we have today, but more intense. Sounds bad to me.
 
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We will see, if we want to or not - it's evolving very fast.
 
There have been some decent articles there, such as a 3-parter about 5 years ago by @Ilkless explaining the reasoning behind Harman headphone targets, HRTF and the relationship to the response of anechoically flat speakers in a room. Links in old posts are now broken, so I hope whatever's modifying those doesn't also break the archive.org version I just used. It's not somewhere I've visited often enough to know whether that was an outlier, or whether they've had a major change of quality.

Edit: Even the archive.org URLs are getting filtered, so can't even post the archived versions of the good ones.
Code:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250910230837/https://www.site_which_shall_not_be_named.com/2020/04/harman-target-curves-part-1
in case anyone wants to edit the URL for themselves

Thanks for the kind mention. Didn't realise the website had gone that badly downhill. I think very little space in the market for independent blogs neither done by enthusiasts part-time nor backed by an actual company (e.g headphones.com)
 
Good rule. But, many will probably only believe, they know more, because AI will get smarter each year to come... until no one will be able to tell AI from not AI.
Not optimistic, I know.
In order for AI to get better the data it uses needs to get better, or it needs to get better at sorting fact from fiction.

In my field secrecy and red herrings are inevitable and I am really not sure if AI will ever be much use in it, since the red herrings are usually re-enforcing misinformation (which is why we use it with some success).

Also some quite well known people in the field have not yet had enough experience to know which is which. And nobody is going to tell them for free and if you do (I had a workshop when I retired) most of the young inexperienced guys didn't believe my discoveries from 40 years experience because "they hadn't read that in a magazine)...

HiFi is full of confident assertions about cables and LPs, I would be intrigued to know if AI actually separate fact from fiction (though in both those cases it is feasible)
 
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