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Philips Fidelio X2HR Review (headphone)

I'll have to try them too and listen to the differences.
When converting his PDF to the default .txt format, don't forget to type in LSC for low-shelf filters and HSC for high-shelf filters.

LS and HS without the C have a different response and won't match his preset.
 
When converting his PDF to the default .txt format, don't forget to type in LSC for low-shelf filters and HSC for high-shelf filters.

LS and HS without the C have a different response and won't match his preset.
Thanks! I always pay attention to those low shelf and high shelf bands, because these are the ones that I have to tweak to my taste most of the time. And I noticed that AutoEQ PEQs combines LSC, HSC and 4 other most significant filters in the first rows and leaves the other low gain, high Q bands (to correct artifacts) at the end.

As I read in RME's headphone linearization trainings, they recommend completely ignoring all those low gain, high Q filters as they do more harm than good.
 
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I'll have to try them too and listen to the differences. So far I really like the AutoEQ values with my own High Shelf band gain adjustment.
Okay, I tried the Oratory PEQs and with similar bass and treble shelf settings, they sound pretty much the same to me with the AutoEQ settings.
 
My ideal EQs for these Philips headphones, which I really compare to my old friend HD650. Still in the process of listening

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I'd like to share my experience with these headphones: I got them a few years ago and I'd consider them my first budget pair of hifi headphones. Reading Amir's review actually made me relieved more than anything, because you can find these open box on amazon for pretty cheap, I believe I got these for $64 when I bought them, so based on his review, if these are close to good at $145 then I'm beyond happy. They're surprisingly light feeling and they clamp without compressing. I do want to know what a good replacement set of open-backs would be within the $300 - $400 dollar price point

-- This part is not so much about the headphone review, but for beginner audiophiles that may have stumbled here -- now I did look up openbox on amazon and they are at $124, so idk if I can recommend them for that price UNLESS you are just getting into hifi, I recommend purchasing them and then returning them after a month to get a feel for higher quality budget headphones and learn what you do and don't like, but definitely don't keep these until you've had a chance to hear a couple of headphones. I followed the same format when purchasing speakers, because Amazon allows free returns on most audio equipment for 2 months and that's how I figured out the sound signature that I like and landed on the Elac 6.2s for my first set and funny enough I use the Klipsch RP600M mk1's (EQ'd of course), a monolith USB dongle dac and the Rotel A11 Tribute Mk1's.

Everything I've bought is open box, The Elacs (Amazon) and the Klipsch's (FB Market Place) were both only $200 when I bought them, and Monolith sold their dongle for like $20 when they realized how low the quality was for the original price (great quality for $20 bucks though) and the Rotel I found for $100 off on Crutchfield. You don't need to go in debt, you don't need to rush, and return policies exist in case after a month you realize you get ear fatigue or something from a set of headphones or speakers.
 
Thank you for this review. Picked these up for £68 (~$85) on the Amazon Prime Day sale recently and I was initially disappointed, but after playing with some EQ I really rate them now. For me, out of the box, bass was too reserved and treble too bright (really I would describe it as "harsh") but the EQ shared in this review really helped with that.

I really prefer the style of headphones with a suspended headband so these are perfect for me from a fit/finish perspective. They are also really easy to drive without an external amplifier, just connected directly to my PC.

At full price maybe a bit more thought is required, but definitely recommended if you can get them for such a competitive price.
 
this was my first internet audiophile recommended headphone purchase. that 5k peak was so bad i spiraled into madness
I tried to agree to most of the praise by internet, but years later, after few other headphones acquired, i am questioning this headphone too, borderline into madness, lol
 
this was my first internet audiophile recommended headphone purchase. that 5k peak was so bad i spiraled into madness
Was my first audiophile headphone like decade ago too, blew my mind how good it sounded compared to gaming headphones.

Unfortunately after venturing trough other headphones X2 weaknesses became quite obvious and i would not buy it anymore.
 
OK, got a 'new' X2HR for modding, knew this headphone since the first generation X2, but never liked it. To me the SHP8900 or 9500 were always better to start with, they only lacked build quality.
These days I did some mods. If you are in a love/hate relationship with your X2, you might give this mod a try :)

1. Dampen the rear chamber with damping wool, slightly compressed damping is ideal. I used two layers soft synthetic fibre, 15 mm each to fill the inner volume. A smaller and a bigger cookie fitting the shape of the cup. Just leave the screw wholes free for a tight fit.
This helps to linearize the frequency response up to 1.5k, gains efficiency (!) and reduces slightly peaking in the highs.

2. Close all the membranes on the plate where the driver is mounted, gaffer tape will do the job. I guess I use silicon later on instead.
The two small ones above and below the driver and the long one on the recessed edge. I took different measurements of 30/60/100 % variations, but all closed was simply best.
This reduces the peaks further, interference problems in the highs get also banned pretty good.

If you take a look at the measurements don't be fooled, the way I measure misses the pinna gain, so the recessed region around 3k sounds right to the ear.

The 8k notch is not really evident and a measurement artefact, when sweeping the frequencies 8 kHz is clearly on level. This said, you have always some individual interference with over ear headphones, whereas a IEM got one peak only most of the time.

Overall the harshness of the original is reduced to a level where it's not this disturbing anymore, the highs ... are much more accurate than before and way more pleasant to listen.
And yes, bass gets much tighter too and looses the wobbely feel. I think the softened bass is a result from unlucky vent design of the X2 that disturbes mids and therefor precision including subjective bass response. Interpreting the red graph of the regular X2, we can asume, that there's a big amount out of phase energy around 1.2k and vice versa @ 1.8k. Adventureous!
Blue and green graphs of the modded X2 shows a more defined function in this region and way less interference in the upper octave.

EQing is easy and most important: useful now, you won't be dissapointed. This is how the X2 should have been from the start.

Red graph is raw X2HR in all it's 'glory'
Blue is the measurement with physical mods
Green is physical mods + simple 3 band EQ
 

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Dry / analytical EQ setup for the modded X2 with 'room response' tendency.
If we take a look at L/R differences of the headphone we see the known loudness difference in the lower mids. I guess this is the result of the cable between left and right speaker and added resistance to the low impedance driver.
Another thing are resonances in the highs (left/right), they are at different frequencies due to driver tolerance (?). For a more 'perfect' setup differnt L/R EQing would be necessary. But it's OK and usable this way.

I looked up my measurements for the old SHP8900 from 2006, this model is plastic all over but was superior in tech specs, linearity, distortion ...
 

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I encountered the differences in the highs might come from a not evenly glued (factory) damping filter on one side of the X2HR. It was loose at one section. :/
 
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