Paradigm's new Founder serie

[HooStat]

Soundstage reviewed this a few weeks ago. Here are some measurements: https://www.soundstagenetwork.com/i...&catid=77:loudspeaker-measurements&Itemid=153

 

[MaxBuck]

Soundstage reviewed this a few weeks ago. Here are some measurements: https://www.soundstagenetwork.com/i...&catid=77:loudspeaker-measurements&Itemid=153

Bass response seems pretty feeble for speakers of that size.

I used to love the Paradigm line; in the late '90s I really wanted to get their floorstanders but WAF wasn't there. But I've listened to the new Founder Series and, flat response or not, I don’t care for them.

 

[napilopez]

Bass response seems pretty feeble for speakers of that size.

I used to love the Paradigm line; in the late '90s I really wanted to get their floorstanders but WAF wasn't there. But I've listened to the new Founder Series and, flat response or not, I don’t care for them.

FYI The NRC chamber isn't accurate below 100Hz so you can't judge bass extension from it.

 

[jonfitch]

Hoping to see the measurements of the coaxial 70 LCR model at some point to see if it's competitive.

 

[thewas]

Hoping to see the measurements of the coaxial 70 LCR model at some point to see if it's competitive.

Here you go https://www.audioholics.com/tower-speaker-reviews/paradigm-founder-100f-70lcr/conclusion
Also some for the 120H https://www.hifinews.com/content/paradigm-founder-120h-loudspeaker-lab-report

 

[AlexanderM]

I've been looking at Paradigm some lately and am trying to determine if the Monitor Series is worth considering. In his conclusion in the Monitor SE Atom review Amir says, "As is, without EQ, I cannot recommend the Paradigm Monitor SE Atom. With EQ, it is quite serviceable and likely superior to other speakers." So then with EQ it is a good speaker, yes? I've also been looking at the Founder series as well, it's pricey but looks great.

 

[thewas]

Stereophiles measurements and review of the 120H

Paradigm Founder 120H loudspeaker Measurements

Sidebar 3: Measurements I used DRA Labs' MLSSA system, a calibrated DPA 4006 microphone to measure the Paradigm Founder 120H's frequency response in the farfield, and an Earthworks QTC-40 mike for the nearfield responses; both microphones were used with an Earthworks microphone preamplifier.

www.stereophile.com

 

[AlexanderM]

Here you go https://www.audioholics.com/tower-speaker-reviews/paradigm-founder-100f-70lcr/conclusion
Also some for the 120H https://www.hifinews.com/content/paradigm-founder-120h-loudspeaker-lab-report

I heard the F100s recently and liked them very much, am going to listen to the Premier series at some point, hopefully soon, I have a feeling I will also like them.

 

[MarcT]

Stereophiles measurements and review of the 120H

Paradigm Founder 120H loudspeaker Measurements

Sidebar 3: Measurements I used DRA Labs' MLSSA system, a calibrated DPA 4006 microphone to measure the Paradigm Founder 120H's frequency response in the farfield, and an Earthworks QTC-40 mike for the nearfield responses; both microphones were used with an Earthworks microphone preamplifier.

www.stereophile.com

If I could afford them, the 120H might be nice option for people like me whose system is in a family room in which WAF precludes the possibility of having one or more subs.

 

[BrokenEnglishGuy]

Stereophiles measurements and review of the 120H

Paradigm Founder 120H loudspeaker Measurements

Sidebar 3: Measurements I used DRA Labs' MLSSA system, a calibrated DPA 4006 microphone to measure the Paradigm Founder 120H's frequency response in the farfield, and an Earthworks QTC-40 mike for the nearfield responses; both microphones were used with an Earthworks microphone preamplifier.

www.stereophile.com

What does mean the woofer seems to be a little underdamping based in the step response?
That claim is in the review, just asking.

 

[thewas]

What does mean the woofer seems to be a little underdamping based in the step response?
That claim is in the review, just asking.

I think that is a good question as I personally find hard to see from a 4 ms plot, so let's ask @John Atkinson himself.

 

[Avp1]

What does mean the woofer seems to be a little underdamping based in the step response?
That claim is in the review, just asking.

Look at step response. It is ringing bass driver. Well damped driver won't have more than 1 cycle before it settles.

 

[BrokenEnglishGuy]

Look at step response. It is ringing bass driver. Well damped driver won't have more than 1 cycle before it settles.

I dont see much step response that settles, most of them dont even fit in the time windows.

 

[BrokenEnglishGuy]

I dont see much step response that settles, most of them dont even fit in the time windows.

To me looks like the line is not very clean or maybe the peak? at 300hz

 

[thewas]

Look at step response. It is ringing bass driver. Well damped driver won't have more than 1 cycle before it settles.

The period of that oscillation is around 2 ms which equates to 500 Hz, that's why I wrote above the plot x scale is too narrow to see a bass resonance.

 

[Avp1]

The period of that oscillation is around 2 ms which equates to 500 Hz, that's why I wrote above the plot x scale is too narrow to see a bass resonance.

Then it is even worse - there should be no undamped resonances anywhere within mid-range. Looking at frequency response chart I wounder if this corresponds to peak in port output. If it is - this is a major design error.

 

[3125b]

Something is going on with their tweeter, with a waveguide that size it should not behave like that.
And the initially interesting looking 70LCR - well hell no, that's rough.

They nailed the look, but actual audio performance not so much.

 

[thewas]

Then it is even worse - there should be no undamped resonances anywhere within mid-range. Looking at frequency response chart I wounder if this corresponds to peak in port output. If it is - this is a major design error.

I was wondering that too, although the period seems a bit too short to correspond to the 300 Hz port resonance.

 

[BrokenEnglishGuy]

I had listened the 100H and i found it very pretty and nice sounding... i didn't hear any weird thing about it's bass, but also i notice the 120H version use 3 x 8'', the 100F use 3 x 7'' which is a lot give it's size, maybe 3 x 8'' it's a bit of a abuse?

 

[AlexanderM]

I had listened the 100H and i found it very pretty and nice sounding... i didn't hear any weird thing about it's bass, but also i notice the 120H version use 3 x 8'', the 100F use 3 x 7'' which is a lot give it's size, maybe 3 x 8'' it's a bit of a abuse?

I had the same experience, really liked the sound.