thewas
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Even more extreme on this recent review of their top end model Paradigm Persona B
Source https://www.hifinews.com/content/paradigm-persona-b-loudspeakers-lab-report
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Source https://www.hifinews.com/content/paradigm-persona-b-loudspeakers-lab-report
Is there a mic system that can measure to 60khz? I guess there must be...I wonder how accurate it is?
I also wonder what ultrasonice excitation would take place from regular music, guess I'll never know!
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There exist even up to 140 kHz (and possibly more), for example
https://www.bksv.com/-/media/literature/Product-Data/bp2030.ashx
but like you say their usage is meant for different purposes then inaudible audiophool extremes.
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Interesting that Paradigm own web site says this:
RESPONSE ON-AXIS+/- 2dB from 60Hz - 45kHz.
So indeed it can go 45khz no problem.
I wonder how the difference in measurements came from.
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I have a friend who order a pair of these in a custom color. I think they cost ~$8K. I was with him when he auditioned a pair and could not believe he liked them and placed an order. I would not have paid $1K for them. I heard the flagship 9H recently at another dealer with another friend. He rightly selected the Salon 2s as the best speakers in that room.
Soundstage! measured the Persona B as well.
Listening window:
Nope!
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Robbo99999
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That graph is misleading due to only 30dB total spread on the y-axis and then on the X-axis it's showing up to 60kHz for some unknown reason, and it's above 20kHz that the frequency response gets real funky - so if you put it all into perspective you see that the response is "only" varying about +/- 4dB from 60Hz - 20kHz. So it's not good, but it's nowhere near as bad as it looks in the graph you linked.
beagleman
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A lot of speakers use a very similar response, a dip in the 2-3khz range, and a bit of boost in the 8-10 khz range.
I have read that many like that sound, it keeps vocals and similar sounds from being "Too" forward and allows clarity at the upper end for listeners that have older hearing.
Not saying it is ideal, but I have owned speakers that were flat in the mids and also this type.
The "Dip" ones sound a bit recessed, but are more listenable long term for sure.
The ones without that "Dip" came across as the singer was right "There", but got tiring at higher levels.
The highs, listener dependent.
Robbo99999
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That could be all fine & well, but not sure why you quoted my post, as I was more talking about how the graph that user "thewas" linked was misleading in making the frequency response look more erratic than it actually is.
If you live in Europe, the price has dropped recently to 118€ per pair.
Measured with dirac live on Pioneer:
Of course placed in a room, mic on listening position etc but its strange i don't really see that nasty tweeter peak at 15khz. It doesn't sound so bad either. I expected much more pronounced "batman" frequency response though and therefore nervous sound.
Of course placed in a room, mic on listening position etc but its strange i don't really see that nasty tweeter peak at 15khz. It doesn't sound so bad either. I expected much more pronounced "batman" frequency response though and therefore nervous sound.
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I got these open box for a great price and use them in my home office. With EQ for the top end they sound very good and without much if any loss in detail. The bass is quite pronounced as well.
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