Palmer ORBIT 11 Cardioid Coaxial 3-way studio monitor (MSRP 799€/899$)

[Salt]

Can't see much to criticise with this FR .. it's far better than 90% of 100K$ 'issues'. And that or under 200 pounds...

 

[Salt]

Measurements for the Orbit were on the sight but taken down. They looked excellent. The measurements are still up on You Tube.

Measurements are still available on their site

 

[Bwaslo]

Measurements are still available on their site

But not Klippel. Look promising, but many await the Klippel results

 

[Salt]

But not Klippel. Look promising, but many await the Klippel results

Nobody ever said there was a NFS measurements. @Purité Audio mentioned an anechoic measurement room, but nothing more.

 

[90sNintendoKid]

I setup my Orbits Friday evening and I haven't had the chance to measure them yet.

When I do, I'll post some nearfield and MLP MMM measurements.

 

[Bwaslo]

Nobody ever said there was a NFS measurements. @Purité Audio mentioned an anechoic measurement room, but nothing more.

The start of that convo was by Naagratax: "Can't wait to see the Klippel measurements"

 

[Salt]

That was meant expectative ... as is still now.
But the ASCI's now are done by Amir, maybe Palmer arrive soon ...

 

[naagratrax]

The start of that convo was by Naagratax: "Can't wait to see the Klippel measurements"

When I said that, I read on the convo that the Orbits 11 was shipped for ASR Klippel measurements

 

[phoenixdogfan]

I tried to get an idea of these speakers, but to be honest, in 80 pages I've found 20-30 helpful posts about them, all diluted in a sea of noise.
And if we removed the exhausting controversy over the orange ring, this discussion would be half as long.
And please, if anyone asks something that could get buried in tons of other useless discussions, reply, "Just read before posting!"

For a modest sum of $6200 (anyone guess why that particular sum), I will create an "Executive Summary" for you.

 

[phoenixdogfan]

Aesthetically those look way better to my eyes. I'm not a huge fan of glossy finished speakers. I'm old school and strongly prefer wood finishes (preferably real veneer).

To me those sides look like the paneling found in the gents room of a SoHo Dive bar.

 

[Robert_Hsu]

There's a problem (maybe somehow) on Orbit 11 is that:
It can only provide 28Hz bass when you push it no higher than 84dB.
Anything beyond 84dB will cause it to lose low-end bass.
If you push it to 100dB (possibly not this high), the -3dB could be somewhere around 45Hz or 50Hz.

 

[Uncola]

these tick every box for a hifi computer desk setup. I'm not surprised a lot of stores sold out. it's like an ls50 for 2026 but state of the art

 

[Steakhouse]

There's a problem (maybe somehow) on Orbit 11 is that:
It can only provide 28Hz bass when you push it no higher than 84dB.
Anything beyond 84dB will cause it to lose low-end bass.
If you push it to 100dB (possibly not this high), the -3dB could be somewhere around 45Hz or 50Hz.

This is still enough for most music. Plus you get some room gain. They are basically on par with many medium sized floor standing speakers.

 

[Flaesh]

a problem (maybe somehow) on Orbit 11 is that:
It can only provide 28Hz bass when you push it no higher than 84dB.
Anything beyond 84dB will cause it to lose low-end bass.

I wouldn't consider this a problem. It's an expected and natural characteristic of such products.

Palmer ORBIT 11 Cardioid Coaxial 3-way studio monitor (MSRP 799€/899$)

When the listening environments are acoustically okay, in a home or in a demo room, it’s really not hard to hear and remember the main characteristics of that loudspeaker. I have actually never been surprised by the sound of a speaker I’ve heard before, they always sound close to how I...

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Did you measure the frequency response at different levels? For example, in 10 dB increments. This would be instructive. The built-in limiter should protect the speakers from damage)).

 

[Oboreal]

It is recommended to mix at 79 to 85 dB spl max to stay within the zone where the ear is most linear (Fletcher–Munson curves). So, for me, Palmer has simply done a very good job designing the specifications for an afforable full-range professionnal nearfield monitor.

 

[Mnyb]

This is still enough for most music. Plus you get some room gain. They are basically on par with many medium sized floor standing speakers.

There's a problem (maybe somehow) on Orbit 11 is that:
It can only provide 28Hz bass when you push it no higher than 84dB.
Anything beyond 84dB will cause it to lose low-end bass.
If you push it to 100dB (possibly not this high), the -3dB could be somewhere around 45Hz or 50Hz.

yes one has to consider the levels such content are present in music , but to realy monitor sub bass you need subs .

Passive speakers does not have this protection they just get overdriven instead ? not better ?
Very few speakers are input agnostic ( that would be cool ) the max spl is limited at extremes or somewhere else .

I think these are nice o a desk or mixing consol ? I'm not a pro so i hope they are fine for them to ?

 

[Pearljam5000]

So is Palmer the new Genelec /Neumann?

 

[Ciobi69]

So is Palmer the new Genelec /Neumann?

in whatever the case you will not buy them

 

[Oboreal]

For music mixing, 28 hz extension is already mainly overkill, the B of a 5 strings bass is 31 hz (and rarely played), and the A0 of a grand piano is 27.5 hz (and mostly never played). As i often say, for mixing : a clean bass extension to 40 hz (the E string of a 4 string bass) will be enough for 99 % of relevant work .

 

[Mort]

So is Palmer the new Genelec /Neumann?

I doubt they are very worried.