there is https://www.sonodyne.com/category/studio/studio-monitors/sm-series/sm-3300 and smaller models too)), the smaller models have aluminium die‑cast cabinet.
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Palmer ORBIT 11 Cardioid Coaxial 3-way studio monitor (MSRP 799€/899$)
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Is there a reason for that?
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The closer the side woofers are to the midwoofer, the more effective the cardioid effect.
If you look at other cardioid monitors, you'll see the side woofers/vents are always pushed as close as possible to the front baffle.
I think choosing the right tool for the job is crucial, but in my view, you also need to know your equipment well and how it behaves in your room. I know people who have produced, mixed, and mastered songs using monitors costing a maximum of €300 per pair and no subwoofer (though they did use headphones to monitor low frequencies), and they've created a tremendous mix that translated well to various audio systems. My point is, better equipment helps, but it doesn't make you a better engineer; experience does. If you dedicate time and know your equipment well, you can compensate for its shortcomings. There are no shortcuts; sometimes you have to dedicate time to things, be aware of them, and learn. Technology might help you go faster in this regard. In any case, perfect, all-round solutions don't exist. I would choose the most neutral speaker possible within my budget and add a room correction system, good headphones for low frequencies, and the rest is up to you to learn how to use them and compensate. You shouldn't go wrong with either Neumann or Genelec, and as for Palmer I would wait for the data just in case.
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The woofers as I am able to understand the design, does not contribute to the cardiod pattern in capacity, with the slots being the only manner in which the cardiod pattern is achieved. The crossover of the woofers being right at 250hz while also having the cardiod pattern diminish right around the same region based on the contour plots as provided by Palmer makes me think so. Maybe it's an aesthetic or sizing thing? I'm not too sure.......
Whichever monitor you choose, let me recommend using Dirac Live for room correction; it's truly impressive.Hi everyone!
I've been reading this forums for many years but only today i made an account and this is my first post.
I produce electronic music for over 20 years and I mix and master for about 3 years here in eastern europe
I am looking for new monitors for my studio, mostly for mixing and mastering complex electronic music of all kinds and would love some help from other mixing engineers.
My budget is around 1500 euros its about 1800 dollars. I live like a nomad so I always move around different countries, now i am on an island in Greece. My rooms change but i always make some acoustic treatment because sound is very important for me.
I auditioned Genelec 8030 next to kh120ii and to me genelec sounded good but strange with too much micro details in the mids and no bass so I liked kh120ii more.
I love the idea of ma1 calibration because i change houses often so calibration is a must i guess. The only thing that draws me back is the expensive sub plus the fact that i need a sub is a problem since i move a lot from country to country. I also looked at Footprint03 from Barefoot but people told me that the kh120ii are more precise for mixing..
Now Palmer Orbit 11 is here exactly when I am ready to purchase my first expensive monitors and they caught my eye. I love that they go deep and I won't need a sub etc.
My question is, does anyone know a better alternative for my situation? Is this all we have at this price range? genelec vs neumann
Thanks!
I'm intrigued...why useless streaming tech?
and when you say useless volume knob, do you mean that functionally? if so, why?
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Very nice name, and probably due to the fact that Palmer is already taken here on ASR.
It's amazing what you can get out of such a small enclosure. I will definitely give the Orbit 11 a listen, probably at Thomann, and wish you every success and good measurements from Klippel by Amir, because that's what 95% of ASR readers are interested in.
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This makes logical sense to me and lends weight to idea of simply trusting independent high quality data like that provided by Amir and Erin.Mixing a song on a pair of speakers and then mixing the same song on another pair of speakers wouldn’t work, well, unless the mixing engineer has a total memory loss in the time between making those two mixes. The mixing engineer would have learned too much about the mix for his first attempt, which would give him a “head start” for his second attempt that could lead him to either a better mix, or even make it worse second guessing his previous decisions. The better mix of the two attempts will likely, in the end, be the better sounding mix on both pair of loudspeakers.
I have a WiiM it’s simply not built for a studio setting, if you have a small studio everything is your computer even the room correction .
I would guess that your DAW software has EQ on the output
In a large studio you have options everywhere with products I probably never heard of . There are “monitor controllers” and software I never had experience with .
My WiiM provides for my in my living room hifi . With “useless streaming” roon and squeezelite and built in EQ and analog and optical input so that I can have room correction EQ even when playing vinyl or CD . I use it’s digital out to a pair of LS60 and KC92’s .
This could also work with the palmer speakers for a small listening place . But that not their main purpose but in a small apartment these would compete with active burchart speakers in the same spot ?
That this speakers does not have their own room correction and other features are a choice well suited for pro and semi pro users as they already have this .
I would guess that your DAW software has EQ on the output
In a large studio you have options everywhere with products I probably never heard of . There are “monitor controllers” and software I never had experience with .
My WiiM provides for my in my living room hifi . With “useless streaming” roon and squeezelite and built in EQ and analog and optical input so that I can have room correction EQ even when playing vinyl or CD . I use it’s digital out to a pair of LS60 and KC92’s .
This could also work with the palmer speakers for a small listening place . But that not their main purpose but in a small apartment these would compete with active burchart speakers in the same spot ?
That this speakers does not have their own room correction and other features are a choice well suited for pro and semi pro users as they already have this .
Room correction isn't just about equalization. It involves timing adjustments and more. That has been mentioned multiple times in the forum. especially if you're adding a subwoofer.
Forgot another useless streaming feature is that I naturally have room correction streaming from Spotify connect .
God for house guests and other family members as basically everyone in Sweden has Spotify ( your basically a weirdo if you don’t)
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Not sure why , they can adjust how they please, but yeah it already is No20 in the best selling chart for nearfield monitor on their site.
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Dynamic and/or time-based pricing.
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Like UBER: Rush hour? Rain? Booking using an iPhone?—> $$$
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Probably. I think they are all doing it now! Ain’t late stage capitalism great!
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