Palmer ORBIT 11 Cardioid Coaxial 3-way studio monitor (MSRP 799€/899$)

[Palladium]

Yes, but reducing digital volume before dsp is not perfect place to do that? Just wondering if manufacturer has any recommendation how to make sure that enought bits are available in low level listening?

Complete non-issue with 24 or 32 bit depth.

 

[Palladium]

Who makes the drivers?

It doesn't matter. You can't upgrade them anyway without breaking the entire existing cabinet design.
They aren't computer CPUs that works as a drop-in upgrade.

 

[Mnyb]

It doesn't matter. You can't upgrade them anyway without breaking the entire existing cabinet design.
They aren't computer CPUs that works as a drop-in upgrade.

Curious minds want to know anyway even if it’s the end results that counts.

IME even if they are known OEM manufacturered drivers they can be bespoke versions adapted to the needs of the design ?
One can not help to notice that some brand name drivers makes people more interested ?

Or they could make thier own drivers ? Who knows, curiosity and all that

Personally I find the whole integrated product very interesting I think it’s more than its parts, even if I’m of-course curious of the nitty gritty details like any other audio nutcase . I do not expect an answer to everything as they will keep some IP to themselves naturally.

 

[sidechain]

Just ordered a pair, might take a few weeks before they arrive in Canada.

Can't wait for someone to take measurements of the infamous ring so we can cover it with car vinyl wrap or 3D print something to put orange gate to rest once and for all. I don't want to void that garantee!

I also hope they sound great but yeah... the ring.

 

[goat76]

I am a bit surprised by how many people here can’t wait for third-party measurements before they order the speakers, especially as we already know the measurements are on their way. But I do hope some of you early adopters make some gated measurements and distortion measurements for the rest of us to see before Amir gets his hands on the speaker.

 

[MrBlueSky4470]

I am a bit surprised by how many people here can’t wait for third-party measurements before they order the speakers, especially as we already know the measurements are on their way. But I do hope some of you early adopters make some gated measurements and distortion measurements for the rest of us to see before Amir gets his hands on the speaker.

You know, at the end of the day I only care about how they sound compared to my existing speakers. Messurements are nice, but in the end it's subjective and I wouldn't buy a speaker just because it messures great but still I don't enjoy listening to it. I don't produce music but listen to it for joy only.

 

[Purité Audio]

I am a bit surprised by how many people here can’t wait for third-party measurements before they order the speakers, especially as we already know the measurements are on their way. But I do hope some of you early adopters make some gated measurements and distortion measurements for the rest of us to see before Amir gets his hands on the speaker.

As ATC fan demanding third-party measurements, the irony!
Keith

 

[goat76]

As ATC fan demanding third-party measurements, the irony!
Keith

I expect you to post some measurements in this thread when you have received your Orbit 11, just as I have done multiple times for my speakers in the ATC thread.

 

[dasherzx]

Absurd question but can the digital out from the monitors go to a dac->active subwoofers? while at it maybe a sub with digital inputs like the kh750, no need for a dac that way.
I have never tried it on neumann monitors too (monitor to dac), if anyone has ever looked into that.

 

[Purité Audio]

I expect you to post some measurements in this thread when you have received your Orbit 11, just as I have done multiple times for my speakers in the ATC thread.

I expect every manufacturer to publish their own measurements and those measurements to be corroborated by a third party.
Keith

 

[delta76]

You know, at the end of the day I only care about how they sound compared to my existing speakers. Messurements are nice, but in the end it's subjective and I wouldn't buy a speaker just because it messures great but still I don't enjoy listening to it. I don't produce music but listen to it for joy only.

if you can easily return it, yes. otherwise many of us rely on measurements to scope down the potential speakers to buy.
and unless your room is very "weird", a good measured speaker will likely sound better than a bad measured one, even after EQ/room correction

 

[Pearljam5000]

If They weren't cardiod they would have had more SPL?
Not sure the sacrifice is worth it

 

[MrBlueSky4470]

Do you think you need more SPL than they are able to deliver? I doubt that.

 

[Frank Dernie]

Curious minds want to know anyway even if it’s the end results that counts.

IME even if they are known OEM manufacturered drivers they can be bespoke versions adapted to the needs of the design ?
One can not help to notice that some brand name drivers makes people more interested ?

Or they could make thier own drivers ? Who knows, curiosity and all that

Personally I find the whole integrated product very interesting I think it’s more than its parts, even if I’m of-course curious of the nitty gritty details like any other audio nutcase . I do not expect an answer to everything as they will keep some IP to themselves naturally.

It was explained up-thread that they designed the drivers themselves

 

[goat76]

I expect every manufacturer to publish their own measurements and those measurements to be corroborated by a third party.
Keith

That's something I also want to see from every manufacturer. And even when it exists third-party review measurements, I’m still interested to see how users’ measurements compare to the third-party review example. So I hope you and everyone else who receives this speaker early will contribute to that.

 

[holbob]

In room measurements are pretty useless to evaluate a speaker, unless that room is an anechoic chamber. At best it'll show if the speaker has unusual high frequency extension. Everything else, bass extension, bass drop off, high frequency drop off, sbir, can be explained by room/positioning.

 

[berjine]

If They weren't cardiod they would have had more SPL?

The only limit in SPL I see from the measurements is in the low-bass, which is not cardioid so no I don't think so

 

[goat76]

In room measurements are pretty useless to evaluate a speaker, unless that room is an anechoic chamber. At best it'll show if the speaker has unusual high frequency extension. Everything else, bass extension, bass drop off, high frequency drop off, sbir, can be explained by room/positioning.

That's why I’m asking for gated measurements.

 

[Mnyb]

The only limit in SPL I see from the measurements is in the low-bass, which is not cardioid so no I don't think so

Non fridge sized speakers usually have the bass as the limits , possibly some two way with low xover can have the low treble hitting the limiters first

 

[mupersan82]

I am a bit surprised by how many people here can’t wait for third-party measurements before they order the speakers, especially as we already know the measurements are on their way. But I do hope some of you early adopters make some gated measurements and distortion measurements for the rest of us to see before Amir gets his hands on the speaker.

I ordered them to compare with my current speakers. I can just return them within 30 days. So... why not?