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Palmer ORBIT 11 Cardioid Coaxial 3-way studio monitor (MSRP 799€/899$)

Ooops, we're on page #100 now ... how many of these could be deleted that referred to the 'magic' orange (tangerine) ring?
Thank you, @Salt, at least it has Measure/s & Impression/s to discuss, unlike (many) other threads, reasonable?
 
Personally I feel the ring should have have been made of cheese, so if you're short on cheese you can scrape it off the speaker and get cookin'
 
Thank you, @daniboun, for the 1/3rd party measure, appreciated :=)
The Palmer measure compares well to the 1/3rd party measure, doesn't it....
  • No Amp required.... Fabulous, simpler although longer/long Analogue/Digital (AES3) Interconnects are required.
  • 120' x 120' H/V dispersion!!!! Fabulous although this indicates that these Speakers will need to be carefully placed/located/positioned in the Room, doesn't it, and CMs/MMs will matter, won't they?
  • Its (relative) weakness is in the Low/Mid Bass area, isn't it, perhaps/possiblely a little Reactive Muddy (relative) and could be Tighter/Diffused/Damped without looseing the Real/Right/Natural Contrast. This suggests the Amp unit, Box, or both could be improved, reasonable? Mid/Treble distortion (Waterfall Plot) is very good, isn't it, as is the FR? The video shows, in an Open Environment, that he listened/recorded at 7m away (very impressive).
  • The slightly off centre alignment of the Coaxial Tweeter is an issue, isn't it, especially as the Tweeter also relys on the Mid Cone as a Waveguide, and needs to be improved/corrected, doesn't it? Millimetres/Alignment matter, don't they?
  • The Hiss issue suggests Amp unit, doesn't it? Hopefully they can also resolve this issue quickly.
  • One post indicated that the AES3 did not work, so hopefully they can also resolve this issue quickly.
  • Alot to like and a few issues that need to be attended to/corrected.
  • Overall, Impressive....
The Palmer measures are, as follows....
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Since the highest amplitude of self noise of the Palmer Orbit 11 monitors seems to be above 10khz I wonder if the perceived variability of this noise is at least partially correlated to the significant variability among individuals in their high frequency hearing. (Yes I realize the individual frequencies in the last graph depicting noise are blocked however it appears that the black bands with text end on the right side very near 10khz.
 
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Here is the hiss assessment/measurement :

@3mm15s for explanation (seems not to be an issue) : Orbit 11 measurements

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Here the high frequency emphasis of the noise is depicted with higher resolution (the blue graph is the important one - see the original posting) and the noise measured here is also most prevalent above 10khz where the average human sensitivity to sound is significantly more variable than at lower frequencies. So this graph apparently also supports, as stated in my last post, that this variability in high frequency sound perception could account for at least some of the variation in the audibility of the self noise people report in these monitors.
 
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