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PA speakers for home stereo ?

Have to say that I now value lack of compression/distortion way above a perfectly flat FR these days. With quality PA speakers you should have plenty of headroom available to EQ a slightly rough response with DSP anyway. Distorting speakers just sound like ass. Literally.

This is so true. With some speakers, a flat frequency response may only be flat at one volume level. If the speakers compress, the FR won't be flat any more at another volume level. IMO this is something lacking in Amir's testing. Erin routinely does compression testing, Amir does not.
 
If my suspicion is correct, yes you will be.

BUT again I could be wrong. Do you have more information about the manufacturer? Any more information about the speakers? Any tests/reviews on the speakers? User impressions of that model?
I hear what you say, info are next to non existent. But they sell everywhere in my country, that should count for something or half the population is wasting money on bad product.
 
The use of "PMPO" On the box is very concerning.

This is a fake metric used to market things to consumers who know "more watts are better" but no more than that.

It's basically adding up the peak power handling of every component in the speaker, which is a lot like quoting the horsepower of a car by adding the maximum torque of the engine, all 4 wheels and all 4 brakes into one number, it makes absolutely zero sense.

My guess is these speakers will have problems you can't fix with EQ. I used to go to audio trade shows overseas where these no-name, gigantic speakers come from. Most of them are bad, some of them are truly horrible, a few are ok at lower levels. It's impossible to say how this one will be just from the info we have here.

In general you should know what you're buying, whether high end or low. Can you listen to them before buying? You could at least run some tone sweeps and try to check the performance by ear, but speakers this cheap and this large tend to be really bad. Most of what you pay for is the sheer size.
For sure i always avoid speakers when they say PMPO .... But they rate them as 400 watts, 300 watt Rms.... In any case not going to dispute anything you say, all i want to know is... i don't care if they are not 100% on specs, it being what it is they are large, many people locally use them, all i want i for it to be un upgrade from my Sonics large bookshelfs.
 
Buddy of mine use a pair of Fender guitar amps for his stereo setup. He's happy with that.
sigh... you see so many mixed opinions, i wish i could go listen to them all before buying but its extremely hard to do because of so many factors, first the venue is not always suited to the speakers (when you go buy second hand) Then the amp may not match, or they stuffed up the EQ on its settings, sometimes its just not possible to take the time to listen and tune it in so to speak to make a conclusion until you actually have the goods and spend half a day tuning it in.
 
Welcome!

So, what is your budget?
Your room is 15x15m, did I read that right? And the ceiling height?

In my experience a top quality “PA” system absolutely delivers the musical goods. And for larger rooms, there simply is no replacement for displacement when it comes to bass drivers.
I was starting to lose hope on the whole PA deal as a stereo system, this gives me some new energy to look further into it thanks.
ceiling is not high about 2.5 meters.

I will explain my exact reasoning and needs in a new thread after this thread so as to not derail from the core intent of this thread thank you sir.
 
I’ve had lots of experience with PA gear and been an audiophile for 40 odd years. PA speakers sound awesome, sometimes better than home hi-fi and skys the limit with cost of these as well. The trouble is for most domestic purposes they’re just too loud. They are meant for live use and usually in larger spaces. I love the sound of PA speakers though, and if you like live music that’s what you’ll be listening to anyway at a live event. But you can get some big speakers at home which are a bit more subtle and usually have tweeters that are tamer to listen to, and are 3 way, which gives you a better overall sound generally. PA speaker are usually 2 way, nothing wrong with that but if you want a bit more finesse and detail and better reproduction of high quality recorded material domestic speakers are generally better. Just buy one with a 12 inch woofer and its basically near the output of a PA speaker anyway. The compression horns in PA speakers are so much fun though, but they’ve scream and deafen you at home if your not careful :)
aaahhh, thats more like it, i've been bombarded by so many naysayers from other sites.... This locally XL07 made speakers everyone might deem as trash, but i just feel there might be more to it than i fist hand bash down by everyone on these, they keep being in business, and locals keep buying them... maybe they are downright trash, maybe they are a hidden treasure (in the affordable or cheap class of systems)
 
Been using passive dual concentric Tannoy V12s for several years now. Like them as much as my Neumann KH310s. I use both with twin subs. They go loud effortlessly when compared to most hifi speakers and are in heavy, well braced birch ply boxes. Seems to me that the Tannoys are somewhere between hifi and full on super high SPL PA stuff. The power handling and SPL specs shown below indicate this. Tannoy states they are designed for installs in smaller venues.
Anyway, I have four pairs plus spares now, as they can be bought fairly cheaply second hand. (They cost about $1000 each when new, circa 2000.)
With a bit of EQ, they punch way above their price point, I reckon.
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Nice !
 
I use the speakers below.
JBL am6212/00 (jbl 2206h + 2431h).

I did use a diy version of jbl 4722 (active crossover 24db LR @ 750hz - 1,000hz, jbl 2435 compression driver with beryllium diaphram on jbl 2384 horn, 2 x 15" eminence 15lf woofers with shorting rings)
wow
 
Hi Kevinsonic, I agree with most of what’s been said.
I have a pair of passive 15” cheapies with 1” throat compression tweeters:-
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They sounded horrible, boomy without deep bass and probably measured similar or worse than this


I tried an experiment with nothing to lose by stuffing them with a full sized polyfill pillow each, and then sealing the bass ports. What a difference that made! For classical, jazz and acoustic, they’re my favourites now.
Their bass is very recessed but goes really low to at least 30Hz in-room and most of the boominess is gone.
Can use a sub or equalise them up to a certain point. Their efficiency gives you a lot of headroom for eq.

With the tweeter handling from 1kHz to the upper limit they image like Kef LS50’s and do depth and width incredibly. There is such a sense of immediacy and coherence that I never seem to hear out of 3-ways. Maybe that’s just been my bad luck though.
Percussion, kickdrums, cymbals and triangles are so lifelike with no detectable compression at low or high volumes.

The big caveat is their crappy dispersion, being ‘controlled directivity’. If you sit in front of them in your main listening posn, bliss!
Get up and walk around and they sound mid-range-recessed.

If you value a sense of timing, perceived explosive dynamic performance above flat response, then they’re worth an audition. I love them for that and their ability to sound like a live venue performance.
Very nice !
 
Well, @kevinsonic wrote:

My setup, just a normal room 15x15 square meters. and occasionally outside (i live on a smallholding)

Can one equalize these speakers out?


TS have to explain that a little more, my guess is that he means a 15 square meter room, because it's a more normal room than a 225 square meter room. But IF it's 225 square meters, I think he should definitely look into some larger types of speakers, some good PA speakers (or PA similar i.e.; big woofer, compression driver, high SPL/power handling and so on)
Or, with a large listening distance, for example, a couple of line arrays from floor to ceiling would be something to consider. A couple of line arrays completed with some beefy subwoofers. :)

If it's a 15 square meter listening room, which TS listens in mostly around 65-75 dB, I mean a couple of "normal" Hifi speakers together with one or more subwoofers, well integrated as speakers-sub, would be more than enough. I'm guessing about that. But with that said, I don't know if TS likes to listen at really high volume. Maybe a bass-pumping techno party is at his house/room every day. In other words, it's difficult to give tips and advice with so little information about needs, conditions to start from.
(in that case the speakers in #15 plus sub in a 15 square room should be more than enough, or any other combo Hifi speaker with decently high power handling plus sub with equally high power handling. It doesn't have to be PA, if you don't want to)

Then we haven't even touched on the aspect that TS said ...My setup, ...... and occasionally outside (i live on a smallholding) what does TS @kevinsonic mean?

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@kevinsonic you can try to figure out if it's Eminence Omega Pro 15A bass drivers in the speakers you're interested in. If that's what it looks like, that is.

Regarding the speakers you're considering. The speaker cabinets are too small, in terms of volume/cavity, to have two Eminence Omega Pro 15A in each cabinet. That's if you're going to get any decent bass/FR with them:

Compliance Equivalent Vol. (Vas) 258.5 Liters/9.1cu. ft.


Thank you, some very important questions yes, i will make a new thread and post my old speakers i want replaced. i do have renewed hope in PA's as a stereo system.
The big question is, will those big omega's be able to do it for me.

i guess there's more aspects involved than i thought...
 
half the population is wasting money on bad product.
Not just in your country, brother. Beats took the US by storm but those headphones were total crap at the time. Popular doesn't always
mean good...

The fact that they are common does improve the odds a little. If nothing else it means they are built/ imported in large quantities so the low price is less of a red flag.

all i want i for it to be un upgrade from my Sonics large bookshelfs.
Sometimes you can do quick checks using a simple phone app. There are a few SPL meter apps, you can download one and use them to check your Sonics... then if you get a chance to demo the Omega speakers, run the same tests.

You can also use this (tone generator) to play sweeps and check for issues... listen for noticeable distortion, unsteady volume, buzzing / rattling, etc. Pink noise is also a great way to compare speakers.
 
In general, the lower 0.5 band is appropriate for home use. Not only for low frequency response, but also for speaker integration.
I haven't heard pro two-way designs with two woofers in a room, but I think it isn't hi-fi.
A friend uses stock Martins F215+ in normal living room.
 
I hear what you say, info are next to non existent. But they sell everywhere in my country, that should count for something or half the population is wasting money on bad product.
Okay but if that's the case Hifi/PA interested people should have written about them in your country. Have you checked Hifi/PA forums in your country?

Contact some reputable PA sellers.

For example, these in South Africa seem to be reputable. They sell well-known brands:
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And ask them if they know the speakers, brand/model, you are interested in.
 
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OP, if these particular local PA speakers weren’t available, would you still be considering PA speakers? It is another way of asking if this thread is about PA speakers in general or a particular model of PA speaker?
 
I have the prior generation of these in my home:
JBL EON 710
I have a pair of JBL EON610, and a pair of JBL EON618s, so three-way for each of two stereo channels, bought about five years ago. They have on-board EQ, but I just EQ on my PC, since I have to have the PC for streaming and playing digital files anyway. They are in the workout room in the basement, so small space (probably about 3 meters x 5 meters) with a low ceiling of varying height, creating odd reflective surfaces. They work quite well, once I got them set up correctly, but it took some doing to find the right settings. With that much bass power, EQ is absolutely required for best results, but I get full range at ample volume. Personally, I wouldn’t be happy without at least one sub. The upper cabinets alone are not enough. I think you can get by with one sub just fine. I got two because I was experimenting, not knowing what I’m doing, and I wanted to err on the side of overdoing rather than under, since I was getting the cheaper 610 instead of the more expensive 612 or 615 (now the model numbers are 710, 712 and 715). In hind site, I would go with 715’s, and maybe skip the second sub. Really, I don’t find this set up to be lacking in any way. It is interesting to note that the tweeters used in these PA speakers are essentially the same compression drivers used in the HDI line of consumer speakers aimed at home use.
There are no fans in these, so no fan noise. There’s a tiny bit of hiss, but I can only hear it if I stick my ear right up next to the speaker when it isn’t playing. Not enough to bother me at all.
Now for the down side. The plate amp on one of the upper cabinets blew out about a year ago. My model is out of production, but I found an online place to purchase a replacement. After installing the new plate amp, some smoke and burning smell came out the back of it, but it kept sounding OK, so Forget It Drive On (FIDO). No sooner than I had that speaker back up and running, one of the subs blew a plate amp. So that’s the shortcoming of these. I haven’t bothered to replace the plate amp for the sub, since I can get along fine with just one. I’m thinking about simply mounting some terminals on the back and using an external amp.
Whatever you decide to go with, try to get used. You will pay less, and if they don’t work out, you’ll be able to resell them for a price that’s much closer to what you paid than if you get brand new.
 
sigh... you see so many mixed opinions, i wish i could go listen to them all before buying but its extremely hard to do because of so many factors, first the venue is not always suited to the speakers (when you go buy second hand) Then the amp may not match, or they stuffed up the EQ on its settings, sometimes its just not possible to take the time to listen and tune it in so to speak to make a conclusion until you actually have the goods and spend half a day tuning it in.
This is why we place such an emphasis on measurements around here. Opinions are so often not of much help.
 
One thing I am curious about is the type of cabinets used in the various PA speakers available. Seems a lot have very light plastic enclosures for ease of transport. Presumably this is far from ideal sonicaly?
The Tannoys I use are in very heavily braced thick birch ply cabinets. Not great when it comes to moving them around, but I would assume that for home use, this is actually preferable.
 
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