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Outlaw 2200 M-Block Amplifier Review
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Looking more closely at the pics it looks like the top cover is different (vent pattern), speaker out jacks look different, and there’s a new ground connector to the right of the AC input. It’s also twice as tall as the 2200 (deal breaker for me in my setup) and lighter than the 2200.
The changes look significant, which is probably why I was able to pick up 3 in February for $799 delivered.
New manual is available here: http://outlawaudio.com/outlaw/docs/2220OM.pdf
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Another change, and one subjectively, that I don’t like is the country of manufacture changed. The older models were made in Taiwan and these new ones are made in China.
I know that from reading posts by “Peng” on another forum that outlaw had a long time relationship with the Taiwanese manufacturer and the Taiwanese factory may very well have been the same factory that churned out Parasound gear.
In and of itself not a big deal but I notice quite a few small changes like the power switch, fuse, etc. Hopefully, the Chinese factory has the same great quality control that the Taiwanese factory had.
It would be cool to see how the new Chinese models test and see what the guts look like inside.
I know that from reading posts by “Peng” on another forum that outlaw had a long time relationship with the Taiwanese manufacturer and the Taiwanese factory may very well have been the same factory that churned out Parasound gear.
In and of itself not a big deal but I notice quite a few small changes like the power switch, fuse, etc. Hopefully, the Chinese factory has the same great quality control that the Taiwanese factory had.
It would be cool to see how the new Chinese models test and see what the guts look like inside.
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This doesn't seem to be the same dimensions. It looks slightly taller (or maybe narrower), assuming the photo is not distorted.
Edit: Jumped the gun there: it's 3" high, compared with 2" for the 2200.
It wasn't me, it was M Code, who is sort of an insider.
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I wonder: is claimed S/N 112 dB A-wtd better than 100 dB unwtd?
I imagine they went ahead and put up the information page before they get any units!
Obviously, I have no idea, but the major increase in the height suggests a potential change of significance. It may be they simply decided to stand up the capacitors or something, but given how long the 2200, and the m200 before it, were around, the slim height is kind of the "trademark" for this product.
Who knows? Maybe marketing got some input that people felt like it can't be very "gutsy" without more room for guts!
A weighting basically applies a curve to the noise spectrum. It weights frequencies close to 1k the most, and high and low frequencies the least. So it would all depend on how the noise is distributed.
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Very sharp fascia and certainly a bit classier look. Looks to me like the left side LED has shifted downward too, or may just be an artifact of it getting taller.
the height increase would have taken it out of consideration for me too but it’s still a pretty compelling option.
the height increase would have taken it out of consideration for me too but it’s still a pretty compelling option.
Obviously, I have no idea, but the major increase in the height suggests a potential change of significance. It may be they simply decided to stand up the capacitors or something, but given how long the 2200, and the m200 before it, were around, the slim height is kind of the "trademark" for this product.
Who knows? Maybe marketing got some input that people felt like it can't be very "gutsy" without more room for guts!
They did provide the specs of the caps, same as before just more details instead just quoting the total uf.
Oops. That post was not for this thread.
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Hard to compare, but 112 A-wtd vs 100 unwtd I would take the 112, could be very close though if measure both the same way.
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I ask because Amir measured THD at < -100 dB but SINAD at only 85, so an improvement in S/N would make a worthwhile difference.
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(Updated) I asked Outlaw support what the differences were between the 2220 and 2200 and here’s the response I received:
”There is a physical switch for XLR or RCA input, which the 2200 does not have. The trigger output on the 2220 is powered. Whereas, with the 2200, it is not powered. It is simply an in/out connection. This is capable of powering up to 3 amplifiers before the available current from the source device reaches max capability. With the 2220, the trigger out has a separate powered trigger-out circuit. So, a max current availability will not be reached. Thus, more amps can be triggered.”
”There is a physical switch for XLR or RCA input, which the 2200 does not have. The trigger output on the 2220 is powered. Whereas, with the 2200, it is not powered. It is simply an in/out connection. This is capable of powering up to 3 amplifiers before the available current from the source device reaches max capability. With the 2220, the trigger out has a separate powered trigger-out circuit. So, a max current availability will not be reached. Thus, more amps can be triggered.”
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I'm not positive, but I think the trigger output on the 2200 is just a pass-through. Here is what the manual says:
E Trigger Output Jack When more than one Model 2200 is used in an system, this jack may be used to pass the low voltage control signal through to the Trigger Input Jack of an additional Model 2200.
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