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Hello everyone,

This is a review and detailed measurements of the Orpheus Zero CD Player and Transport.

Orpheus-001.jpg


I already reviewed this CD player a year and half ago, and I realized it needed a significant refresh to align with my latest reviews. After quick alignment with @amirm, we agreed best would be to create a new review, to show how measurements have evolved under the positive influence of ASR members.


Orpheus Zero - Presentation

This is a Swiss made CD Player that was first released in 2005, at a very high price. In today's money, we would be talkin $10'000 retail price! It reads only the CD Audio (no, not SACD, sorry), and it was followed by an MKII version with a blue display. There was also a Transport only version named Orpheus One.

As you can see from the picture, it looks like a rackable 1U CD player, but it is not. It is made of thick aluminium and steal plates, and the weight reaches 10kg (22lbs) for that reason. It is a top loading unit (not practical) feature the almost legendary Philips CD-Pro drive.

On the back we get lucky with multiple outputs:

Orpheus-002.jpg


Note no optical SPDIF but 3-pole AES, that goes with the "pro" look.

The inside is quite clean:

Orpheus-011.jpg


Power supply on the left, Philips CD-Pro in the middle and servo board + digital processing (and output) and conversion on the right.

The DAC is an ancient 24bits Wolfson WM8740 capable of -104dB THD+N @0dBFS, which is enough to free the Audio CD 16bits/44.1kHz from noise and distortion. Measurements will show if that's the case.

Orpheus published the below specs at the time:

Orpheus-010.jpg


A THD+N of 0.0012% at full scale mean this player offers the max resolution of the Audio CD (-98dB THD+N), and again, we'll check.

As seen above, the The Philips CD-Pro is hidden below a beautiful aluminium CD receptacle (not sure how to call that):

Orpheus-013.jpg



User Experience

I now like to share some subjective data with you now, about my interaction with a device. This one is a bit special to my heart since I bought it in 2007, and obviously I've been enjoying it a lot since it is still today the main source of my main system.

Besides the relative uneasy access due to the top loading, the speed of that drive is a delight, comparable to the best from Sony. The user interface, managed via the 5 front buttons, is an example of efficiency and clarity. No need for a user guide, the menus and sub-menus are easy to understand and use.

And I think I'll now state it here, rather buried below in the measurement: the Orpheus applies de-emphasis when required and is gapless playback, of course, this is a properly designed CD Player after all.


Orpheus Zero - Measurements (Analog outputs - From CD

All measurements performed with an E1DA Cosmos ADCiso (grade 0), and the Cosmos Scaler (100kohms from unbalanced input) for analog outputs, and a Motu UltraLite Mk5 for digital.

I am now consistent with my specific measurements for CD Players, as I described them in the post “More than we hear”, and as I reported them for the SMSL PL-200 review. Over time, this will help comparing the devices I reviewed.

Unless otherwise noted, all below measurements are from the balanced (XLR) outoput .

The Orpheus outputs 2Vrms from balanced and unbalanced outputs, as per specs. The two channels are perfectly matched with 0.00dB deviation as I'd like to see more often. Phase is dead flat, and unbalanced outputs respect absolute polarity. On that, note that the Orpheus offers the possibility to invert the phase:

Orpheus-016.jpg



----

As usual, let's start with my standard 999.91Hz sine @0dBFS (without dither) from the Test CD (XLR out):

OrpheusZero_999.91Hz_0dBFS_LR_XLR.jpg


This is a very nice trace, but we are short of 0.001% as I see 0.0013% of THD+N, not the claimed 0.0012% :cool: But, hey, this is a 20 years old device, and I can tell you that I used it A LOT! So I shall accept 1dB more low level noise compare to the best in class SMSL PL200.

Let's try the same at -6dBFS:

OrpheusZero_999.91Hz_-6dBFS_LR_XLR.jpg


We're getting extremely close to the best, this time, as only 0.4dB improvement of THD+N could be obtained with this test. It required a modern AKM or ESS DAC to get there...

----

I usually have a look at any potential PS related leakage, and you saw it before, there are none, even if I zoom with a punishing 512k FFT length:

OrpheusZero_PS_LR_XLR.jpg


Everything we see stays below -130dBr, and the few spikes you see come mainly from the quantization errors of 16bits PCM. This is very good.

----

Next is the bandwidth:

OrpheusZero_BW_LR.jpg


We have a -0.3dB at 20kHz, and that is acceptable. Note the perfect match between the two channels, the two traces overlay perfectly despite the high zoom of that view.

----

Let's have a look at the behavior of the oversampling filter beyond 20kHz:

OrpheusZero_OS.jpg


This is a relatively sharp filter (symmetrical impulse response), of a -80dB attenuation, good for the time, but we do better now (not that we needed to). It correspond to the documented performances of the Sharp filter of the Wolson DAC WM8740, when I look at the datasheet.

Intermodulation distortion can be seen (lateral rays of 18k and 20kHz) going above -90dBr.

----

Let's have a look at the multitone test that a lot of you like very much:

OrpheusZero_MT_LR.jpg


This is a close to perfection as it can be from 16bits PCM. This trace shows that no distortion come to disrupt complex signal.

----

Oh yes, the jitter test:

OrpheusZero_JTest.jpg


The red trace is from the digital file and the blue one from the analog balanced outputs of the Orpheus. This is not perfect, but close enough. Nothing to hear for sure!

----

Started with the Teac VRDS-20 review, and on your request + support to get it done (more here), I'm adding now an "intersample-overs" test which intends to identify the behavior of the digital filtering and DAC when it come to process near clipping signals. Because of the oversampling, there might be interpolated data that go above 0dBFS and would saturate (clip) the DAC and therefore the output. And this effect shows through distorsion (THD+N measurement up to 96kHz):

Intersample-overs tests
Bandwidth of the THD+N measurements is 20Hz - 96kHz
5512.5 Hz sine,
Peak = +0.69dBFS
7350 Hz sine,
Peak = +1.25dBFS
11025 Hz sine,
Peak = +3.0dBFS
Teac VRDS-20-30.7dB-26.6dB-17.6dB
Yamaha CD-1-84.6dB-84.9dB-78.1dB
Denon DCD-900NE-34.2dB-27.1dB-19.1dB
Denon DCD-SA1-33.6dB-27.6dB-18.3dB
Onkyo C-733-88.3dB-40.4dB-21.2dB
Denon DCD-3560-30.2dB-24.7dB-17.4dB
Myryad Z210-70.6dB (noise dominated)-71.1dB (noise dominated)-29.4dB (H3 dominated)
Sony CDP-X333ES-30.5dB-24.8dB-16.3dB
BARCO-EMT 982-32.7dB-24.5dB-16.3dB
TASCAM CD-200-73.5dB-36.3dB-19.7dB
Sony CDP-597-30.4dB-24.7dB-16.5dB
SMSL PL100-53.1dB-31dB-19.1dB
OPPO BDP-95-39dB-28.8dB-19.2dB
OPPO BDP-95 (vol -2dB)-95dB-97.5dB-32.7dB
SMSL PL200-94.8dB-97dB-39.5dB
SMSL PL200 (vol -1dB)-94.8dB-97dB-58.7dB
Orpheus Zero-88.7dB-87.3dB-56.8dB

This is interesting as the Orpheus is the second CD player with a digital filter, after the SMSL PL200, to resist as well these tests, and this time without requiring a digital volume attenuation. It means very close to the desired 3dB headroom to prevent generation distortion from intersample overs. This to appreciate since many CD Masters are recorded too hot. I am unsure if this is the internal filter of the Wolfson DAC or an internal digital filtering from Anagram Devices (ex-daugther company of Orpheus), I'd need to test another CD Player with that DAC.

----

Let's continue with the good old 3DC measurement that Stereophile was often using as a proof of low noise DAC. It is from an undithered 997Hz sine at -90.31dBFS. With 16bits, the signal should appear (on a scope) as the 3DC levels of the smallest symmetrical sign magnitude digital signal:

OrpheusZero_3DC_XLR.jpg


No surprise that we get a very good trace on that test which demonstrates a very good linearity of that conversion and very low level of noise. As a matter of facts, with the latest version of my test CD, I have tests files that allow me to say this one remains linear close to -120dBFS. It also means this CD player will fully benefit from dithered signal, and that is not always the case.

----

Other measurements (not shown):
  • IMD AES-17 DFD "Analog" (18kHz & 20kHz 1:1) : -83.5dB
  • IMD AES-17 DFD "Digital" (17'987Hz & 19'997Hz 1:1) : -85.1dB
  • IMD AES-17 MD (41Hz & 7993Hz 4:1): -100dB
  • IMD DIN (250Hz & 8kHz 4:1) : -91.8dB
  • IMD CCIF (19kHz & 20kHz 1:1) : -85.6dB
  • IMD SMPTE (60Hz & 17kHz 1:4) : -92.8dB
  • IMD TDFD Bass (41Hz & 89Hz 1:1) : -111.6dB
  • IMD TDFD (13'58Hz & 19841Hz 1:1) : -96.9dB
  • Dynamic Range : 98.9dB (without dither @-60dBFS)
  • Crosstalk: 100Hz (below -140dBr), 1kHz (below -140dBr), 10kHz (-128dBr)
  • Pitch Error (GPSDO corrected) : 19'996.94Hz (19'997Hz requested) ie -3.5ppm
  • Gapless playback : Yes
The IMD scores are good to very good but not best in class.
The Dynamic range is the best that can be measured (unweighted) with the Audio CD.
Crosstalk was below what I can measure from the Audio CD at 100Hz and 1kHz, and a crazy low -128dBr at 10kHz. I think it's the best I've seen.
Pitch error is a very small -3.5ppm that not many achieve...

----

Last and not least, I like to run a THD vs Frequency sweep at -12dBFS as it shows how the conversion has evolved over time. I am currently using the beta version of REW and I discovered that this sweep gives better and more reliable results than before. I overlayed the results with the SMSL PL200 that got the best possible trace, and look:

OrpheusZero_THDvsFreq.jpg


I left the legend which shows the THD at 1kHz, so close to best, for a 20 years old device and converter.

---

As I did with the Sony CDP-597, I add a "max DAC resolution" measurement test. It is performed from a 999.91Hz sine @-12dBFS with shape dither (from Audacity). I restrict the THD+N span to 20Hz - 6kHz in REW not to account for the noise of the shape dither beyond 6kHz. I take the calculated ENOB and simply add 2bits to it (due to the -12dB attenuation, as 1bits=6dB). The potential maximum, when calculated from the digital WAV file, is 18.7bits under this test. A "transparent" DAC should achieve 18.7bits, ie 100% in this test.

Here are the results compared to others:
CD Player model or DACCalculated ENOB (999.91Hz sine @-12dBFS with shape dither, THD+N span = 20Hz - 6kHz)Percentage of max resolution achieved (higher is better)
SMSL PL-20018.7bits100%
OPPO BDP-9518.7bits100%
SMSL PS-200 (from CD player)18.6bits99.47%
Denon DCD-900NE18.5bits98.93%
Orpheus Zero18.4bits98.40%
Onkyo C-73318bits96.26%
SMSL PL15018bits96.26%
SMSL PL10017.9bits95.72%
Sony CDP-59717.5bits93.58%
Onkyo DX-735517.3bits92.51%
Denon DCD-356017.2bits91.98%
Yamaha CD-S30316.8bits89.84%
Revox B-226S16.8bits89.94%
Accuphase DP-7016.6bits88.77%
Sony CDP-337ESD16.6bits88.77%
Teac VRDS-25x16.5bits88.24%
Marantz CD-7314.9bits79.68%

Oh wow, only 0.1bit below the Denon DCD-900NE and its ESS DAC. I was expecting a good result from the Orpheus, but not that good.

----

On demand from the community, I add a "de-emphasis test" to verify that this flag is detected and the compliance with the expected de-emphasis curve.
The test is based the same sweep from 20Hz to 20kHz and one has the flag, not the other one.
When the flag is detected, the CD Player should apply the de-emphasis curve and therefore should show the below expected attenuation:
  • 2kHz = -037dB
  • 5kHz = -4.53dB
  • 11khz = -8dB
  • 16kHz = -9.04dB
Here is are the results with the Orpheus Zero, compared with the SMSL PL200 which correctly apply the curve without deviation:

OrpheusZero_De-emphasis.jpg


There is a max deviation of 1dB lower than expected, at 6kHz. This might make the Orpheus sound softer with CDs that use pre-emphasis. The datasheet of the DAC says +-0.1dB deviation for the de-emphasis response error at 44.1kHz, but I found a little more.


Orpheus Zero - Testing the drive

What would be good measurements if the drive would not properly read a slightly scratched CD, or one that was created at the limits of the norm? The below tests reply to these questions.

Here are the results:
Test typeTechnical testResults
Variation of linear cutting velocityFrom 1.20m/s to 1.40m/sPass
Variation of track pitchFrom 1.5µm to 1.7µmPass
Combined variations of track pitch and velocityFrom 1.20m/s & 1.5µm to 1.40m/s & 1.7µmPass
HF detection (asymmetry pitch/flat ratio)Variation from 2% to 18%Pass
Dropouts resistanceFrom 0.05mm (0.038ms) to 4mm (3.080ms)1mm
Combined dropouts and smallest pitchFrom 1.5µm & 1mm to 1.5µm & 2.4mm1mm
Successive dropoutsFrom 2x0.1mm to 2x3mm1mm

I must admit I am a little disappointed by the above, for what's considered a legendary drive. Ok, mine might have aged because I used and abused it for the last near 20 years of service. Maybe caps refresh would help here (it generally does). But, well, we pay a little too high price for the speed, I think. This in line with many super fast Sony KSS laser heads though.

And that is an interesting test because I never ever suffered a drop when listening to my CD collection. They are not scratched, or so little, I must say, which means what it means: on a audibility perspective the above is more than good enough, as long as you don't have holes into your CDs :p


Orpheus Zero - Digital output

Ok, this one is a super duper old CD player. And to expect better from a modern DAC, we need a perfect digital output. Guess what?

This is my standard 999.91Hz @0dBFS (no dither):

OrpheusZero_999.91Hz_0dBFS_L_SPDIF.jpg


This is the same as the original WAV file.

The 3DC test is nailed too, of course:

OrpheusZero_3DC_SPDIF.jpg


My ultimate proof of "perfect" digital output is when I reuse the intersample overs test at 5512.50Hz, with a phase shift of 67.5°, like I did for the TASCAM CD-200 review. This signal generates an overshoot of +0.69dB. And so, if the signal would be modified before being sent (by an ASRC for instance), it would show either a reduction of amplitude or we'd see some sort of saturation/increase noise/distorsion. So here we go, the below is a comparison between the WAV File directly processed by the PC, and when played by the Orpheus via the Coax out:

OrpheusZero_ISO_SPDIF.jpg


They are the same meaning perfect digital output.

Conclusion

I have been enjoying this CD player for almost 20 years. Before I got into measurements, I challenged it so many times, with other CD Players but also using external DACs, and I always went back to using its analog outputs. And it wasn't because they were better, but just because everything else sounded the same, so why not keeping this expensive toy as is?

All that said, it is impressive to see such performances from 20 years ago. From my many reviews, this is the best 2 decades old CD player. Well done to its genitors at OrpheusLab. How to best represent Swiss quality products than that?

I hope you enjoyed this review, and I can tell you I'll continue to enjoy this performing CD Player :cool:

Have a lovely weekend!
 
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Hello everyone,

This is a review and detailed measurements of the Orpheus Zero CD Player and Transport.

View attachment 520640

I already reviewed this CD player a year and half ago, and I realized it needed a significant refresh to align with my latest reviews. After quick alignment with @amirm, we agreed best would be to create a new review, to show how measurements have evolved under the positive influence of ASR members.


Orpheus Zero - Presentation

This is a Swiss made CD Player that was first released in 2005, at a very high price. In today's money, we would be talkin $10'000 retail price! It reads only the CD Audio (no, not SACD, sorry), and it was followed by an MKII version with a blue display. There was also a Transport only version named Orpheus One.

As you can see from the picture, it looks like a rackable 1U CD player, but it is not. It is made of thick aluminium and steal plates, and the weight reaches 10kg (22lbs) for that reason. It is a top loading unit (not practical) feature the almost legendary Philips CD-Pro drive.

On the back we get lucky with multiple outputs:

View attachment 520643

Note no optical SPDIF but 3-pole AES, that goes with the "pro" look.

The inside is quite clean:

View attachment 520644

Power supply on the left, Philips CD-Pro in the middle and servo board + digital processing (and output) and conversion on the right.

The DAC is an ancient 24bits Wolfson WM8740 capable of -104dB THD+N @0dBFS, which is enough to free the Audio CD 16bits/44.1kHz from noise and distortion. Measurements will show if that's the case.

Orpheus published the below specs at the time:

View attachment 520646

A THD+N of 0.0012% at full scale mean this player offers the max resolution of the Audio CD (-98dB THD+N), and again, we'll check.

As seen above, the The Philips CD-Pro is hidden below a beautiful aluminium CD receptacle (not sure how to call that):

View attachment 520660


User Experience

I now like to share some subjective data with you now, about my interaction with a device. This one is a bit special to my heart since I bought it in 2007, and obviously I^ve been enjoying it a lot since it is still today the main source of my main system.

Besides the relative uneasy access due to the top loading, the speed of that drive is a delight, comparable to the best from Sony. The user interface, managed via the 5 front buttons, is an example of efficiency and clarity. No need for a user guide, the menus and sub-menus are easy to understand and use.

And I think I'll now state it here, rather buried below in the measurement: the Orpheus applies de-emphasis when required and is gapless playback, of course, this is a properly designed CD Player after all.


Orpheus Zero - Measurements (Analog outputs - From CD

All measurements performed with an E1DA Cosmos ADCiso (grade 0), and the Cosmos Scaler (100kohms from unbalanced input) for analog outputs, and a Motu UltraLite Mk5 for digital.

I am now consistent with my specific measurements for CD Players, as I described them in the post “More than we hear”, and as I reported them for the SMSL PL-200 review. Over time, this will help comparing the devices I reviewed.

Unless otherwise noted, all below measurements are from the balanced (XLR) outoput .

The Orpheus outputs 2Vrms from balanced and unbalanced outputs, as per specs. The two channels are perfectly matched with 0.00dB deviation as I'd like to see more often. Phase is dead flat, and unbalanced outputs respect absolute polarity. On that, note that the Orpheus offers the possibility to invert the phase:

View attachment 520664


----

As usual, let's start with my standard 999.91Hz sine @0dBFS (without dither) from the Test CD (XLR out):

View attachment 520665

This is a very nice trace, but we are short of 0.001% as I see 0.0013% of THD+N, not the claimed 0.0012% :cool: But, hey, this is a 20 years old device, and I can tell you that I used it A LOT! So I shall accept 1dB more low level noise compare to the best in class SMSL PL200.

Let's try the same at -6dBFS:

View attachment 520683

We're getting extremely close to the best, this time, as only 0.4dB improvement of THD+N could be obtained with this test. It required a modern AKM or ESS DAC to get there...

----

I usually have a look at any potential PS related leakage, and you saw it before, there are none, even if I zoom with a punishing 512k FFT length:

View attachment 520686

Everything we see stays below -130dBr, and the few spikes you see come mainly from the quantization errors of 16bits PCM. This is very good.

----

Next is the bandwidth:

View attachment 520687

We have a -0.3dB at 20kHz, and that is acceptable. Note the perfect match between the two channels, the two traces overlay perfectly despite the high zoom of that view.

----

Let's have a look at the behavior of the oversampling filter beyond 20kHz:

View attachment 520688

This is a relatively sharp filter (symmetrical impulse response), of a -80dB attenuation, good for the time, but we do better now (not that we needed to). It correspond to the documented performances of the Sharp filter of the Wolson DAC WM8740, when I look at the datasheet.

Intermodulation distortion can be seen (lateral rays of 18k and 20kHz) going above -90dBr.

----

Let's have a look at the multitone test that a lot of you like very much:

View attachment 520689

This is a close to perfection as it can be from 16bits PCM. This trace shows that no distortion come to disrupt complex signal.

----

Oh yes, the jitter test:

View attachment 520690

The red trace is from the digital file and the blue one from the analog balanced outputs of the Orpheus. This is not perfect, but close enough. Nothing to hear for sure!

----

Started with the Teac VRDS-20 review, and on your request + support to get it done (more here), I'm adding now an "intersample-overs" test which intends to identify the behavior of the digital filtering and DAC when it come to process near clipping signals. Because of the oversampling, there might be interpolated data that go above 0dBFS and would saturate (clip) the DAC and therefore the output. And this effect shows through distorsion (THD+N measurement up to 96kHz):

Intersample-overs tests
Bandwidth of the THD+N measurements is 20Hz - 96kHz
5512.5 Hz sine,
Peak = +0.69dBFS
7350 Hz sine,
Peak = +1.25dBFS
11025 Hz sine,
Peak = +3.0dBFS
Teac VRDS-20-30.7dB-26.6dB-17.6dB
Yamaha CD-1-84.6dB-84.9dB-78.1dB
Denon DCD-900NE-34.2dB-27.1dB-19.1dB
Denon DCD-SA1-33.6dB-27.6dB-18.3dB
Onkyo C-733-88.3dB-40.4dB-21.2dB
Denon DCD-3560-30.2dB-24.7dB-17.4dB
Myryad Z210-70.6dB (noise dominated)-71.1dB (noise dominated)-29.4dB (H3 dominated)
Sony CDP-X333ES-30.5dB-24.8dB-16.3dB
BARCO-EMT 982-32.7dB-24.5dB-16.3dB
TASCAM CD-200-73.5dB-36.3dB-19.7dB
Sony CDP-597-30.4dB-24.7dB-16.5dB
SMSL PL100-53.1dB-31dB-19.1dB
OPPO BDP-95-39dB-28.8dB-19.2dB
OPPO BDP-95 (vol -2dB)-95dB-97.5dB-32.7dB
SMSL PL200-94.8dB-97dB-39.5dB
SMSL PL200 (vol -1dB)-94.8dB-97dB-58.7dB
Orpheus Zero-88.7dB-87.3dB-56.8dB

This is interesting as the Orpheus is the second CD player with a digital filter, after the SMSL PL200, to resist as well these tests, and this time without requiring a digital volume attenuation. It means very close to the desired 3dB headroom to prevent generation distortion from intersample overs. This to appreciate since many CD Masters are recorded too hot. I am unsure if this is the internal filter of the Wolfson DAC or an internal digital filtering from Anagram Devices (ex-daugther company of Orpheus), I'd need to test another CD Player with that DAC.

----

Let's continue with the good old 3DC measurement that Stereophile was often using as a proof of low noise DAC. It is from an undithered 997Hz sine at -90.31dBFS. With 16bits, the signal should appear (on a scope) as the 3DC levels of the smallest symmetrical sign magnitude digital signal:

View attachment 520697

No surprise that we get a very good trace on that test which demonstrates a very good linearity of that conversion and very low level of noise. As a matter of facts, with the latest version of my test CD, I have tests files that allow me to say this one remains linear close to -120dBFS. It also means this CD player will fully benefit from dithered signal, and that is not always the case.

----

Other measurements (not shown):
  • IMD AES-17 DFD "Analog" (18kHz & 20kHz 1:1) : -83.5dB
  • IMD AES-17 DFD "Digital" (17'987Hz & 19'997Hz 1:1) : -85.1dB
  • IMD AES-17 MD (41Hz & 7993Hz 4:1): -100dB
  • IMD DIN (250Hz & 8kHz 4:1) : -91.8dB
  • IMD CCIF (19kHz & 20kHz 1:1) : -85.6dB
  • IMD SMPTE (60Hz & 17kHz 1:4) : -92.8dB
  • IMD TDFD Bass (41Hz & 89Hz 1:1) : -111.6dB
  • IMD TDFD (13'58Hz & 19841Hz 1:1) : -96.9dB
  • Dynamic Range : 98.9dB (without dither @-60dBFS)
  • Crosstalk: 100Hz (below -140dBr), 1kHz (below -140dBr), 10kHz (-128dBr)
  • Pitch Error (GPSDO corrected) : 19'996.94Hz (19'997Hz requested) ie -3.5ppm
  • Gapless playback : Yes
The IMD scores are good to very good but not best in class.
The Dynamic range is the best that can be measured (unweighted) with the Audio CD.
Crosstalk was below what I can measure from the Audio CD at 100Hz and 1kHz, and a crazy low -128dBr at 10kHz. I think it's the best I've seen.
Pitch error is a very small -3.5ppm that not many achieve...

----

Last and not least, I like to run a THD vs Frequency sweep at -12dBFS as it shows how the conversion has evolved over time. I am currently using the beta version of REW and I discovered that this sweep gives better and more reliable results than before. I overlayed the results with the SMSL PL200 that got the best possible trace, and look:

View attachment 520702

I left the legend which shows the THD at 1kHz, so close to best, for a 20 years old device and converter.

---

As I did with the Sony CDP-597, I add a "max DAC resolution" measurement test. It is performed from a 999.91Hz sine @-12dBFS with shape dither (from Audacity). I restrict the THD+N span to 20Hz - 6kHz in REW not to account for the noise of the shape dither beyond 6kHz. I take the calculated ENOB and simply add 2bits to it (due to the -12dB attenuation, as 1bits=6dB). The potential maximum, when calculated from the digital WAV file, is 18.7bits under this test. A "transparent" DAC should achieve 18.7bits, ie 100% in this test.

Here are the results compared to others:
CD Player model or DACCalculated ENOB (999.91Hz sine @-12dBFS with shape dither, THD+N span = 20Hz - 6kHz)Percentage of max resolution achieved (higher is better)
SMSL PL-20018.7bits100%
OPPO BDP-9518.7bits100%
SMSL PS-200 (from CD player)18.6bits99.47%
Denon DCD-900NE18.5bits98.93%
Orpheus Zero18.4bits98.40%
Onkyo C-73318bits96.26%
SMSL PL15018bits96.26%
SMSL PL10017.9bits95.72%
Sony CDP-59717.5bits93.58%
Onkyo DX-735517.3bits92.51%
Denon DCD-356017.2bits91.98%
Yamaha CD-S30316.8bits89.84%
Revox B-226S16.8bits89.94%
Accuphase DP-7016.6bits88.77%
Sony CDP-337ESD16.6bits88.77%
Teac VRDS-25x16.5bits88.24%
Marantz CD-7314.9bits79.68%

Oh wow, only 0.1bit below the Denon DCD-900NE and its ESS DAC. I was expecting a good result from the Orpheus, but not that good.

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On demand from the community, I add a "de-emphasis test" to verify that this flag is detected and the compliance with the expected de-emphasis curve.
The test is based the same sweep from 20Hz to 20kHz and one has the flag, not the other one.
When the flag is detected, the CD Player should apply the de-emphasis curve and therefore should show the below expected attenuation:
  • 2kHz = -037dB
  • 5kHz = -4.53dB
  • 11khz = -8dB
  • 16kHz = -9.04dB
Here is are the results with the Orpheus Zero, compared with the SMSL PL200 which correctly apply the curve without deviation:

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There is a max deviation of 1dB lower than expected, at 6kHz. This might make the Orpheus sound softer with CDs that use pre-emphasis. The datasheet of the DAC says +-0.1dB deviation for the de-emphasis response error at 44.1kHz, but I found a little more.


Orpheus Zero - Testing the drive

What would be good measurements if the drive would not properly read a slightly scratched CD, or one that was created at the limits of the norm? The below tests reply to these questions.

Here are the results:
Test typeTechnical testResults
Variation of linear cutting velocityFrom 1.20m/s to 1.40m/sPass
Variation of track pitchFrom 1.5µm to 1.7µmPass
Combined variations of track pitch and velocityFrom 1.20m/s & 1.5µm to 1.40m/s & 1.7µmPass
HF detection (asymmetry pitch/flat ratio)Variation from 2% to 18%Pass
Dropouts resistanceFrom 0.05mm (0.038ms) to 4mm (3.080ms)1mm
Combined dropouts and smallest pitchFrom 1.5µm & 1mm to 1.5µm & 2.4mm1mm
Successive dropoutsFrom 2x0.1mm to 2x3mm1mm

I must admit I am a little disappointed by the above, for what's considered a legendary drive. Ok, mine might have aged because I used and abused it for the last near 20 years of service. Maybe caps refresh would help here (it generally does). But, well, we pay a little too high price for the speed, I think. This in line with many super fast Sony KSS laser heads though.

And that is an interesting test because I never ever suffered a drop when listening to my CD collection. They are not scratched, or so little, I must say, which means what it means: on a audibility perspective the above is more than good enough, as long as you don't have holes into your CDs :p


Orpheus Zero - Digital output

Ok, this one is a super duper old CD player. And to expect better from a modern DAC, we need a perfect digital output. Guess what?

This is my standard 999.91Hz @0dBFS (no dither):

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This is the same as the original WAV file.

The 3DC test is nailed too, of course:

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My ultimate proof of "perfect" digital output is when I reuse the intersample overs test at 5512.50Hz, with a phase shift of 67.5°, like I did for the TASCAM CD-200 review. This signal generates an overshoot of +0.69dB. And so, if the signal would be modified before being sent (by an ASRC for instance), it would show either a reduction of amplitude or we'd see some sort of saturation/increase noise/distorsion. So here we go, the below is a comparison between the WAV File directly processed by the PC, and when played by the Orpheus via the Coax out:

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They are the same meaning perfect digital output.

Conclusion

I have been enjoying this CD player for almost 20 years. Before I got into measurements, I challenged it so many times, with other CD Players but also using external DACs, and I always went back to using its analog outputs. And it wasn't because they were better, but just because everything else sounded the same, so why not keeping this expensive toy as is?

All that said, it is impressive to see such performances from 20 years ago. From my many reviews, this is the best 2 decades old CD player. Well done to its genitors at OrpheusLab. How to best represent Swiss quality products than that?

I hope you enjoyed this review, and I can tell you I'll continue to enjoy this performing CD Player :cool:

Have a lovely weekend!
Brilliant, thorough! Pleased to see my Oppo machine is,well, respectable!
 
$10K for a CD player? Is there a little vial of snake oil hidden under one of the printed circuit boards in the picture that I missed. Must be for that price!
That is a high price but it is constructed for high usage and high reliability. If you were setting this up in a rack system that wouldn't be a crazy price to pay as your other components were going to be in the same price range. It is certainly out of my budget, but I am also not the type of user for this kind of CD player. These reviews do make the SMSL PL200 or PL200T seem very much worth their price tag. You are getting top of the line playback for under a thousand dollars.

Another great review of a player for my favorite audio format.
 
That is a high price but it is constructed for high usage and high reliability. If you were setting this up in a rack system that wouldn't be a crazy price to pay as your other components were going to be in the same price range. It is certainly out of my budget, but I am also not the type of user for this kind of CD player. These reviews do make the SMSL PL200 or PL200T seem very much worth their price tag. You are getting top of the line playback for under a thousand dollars.

Another great review of a player for my favorite audio format.

I have a Sony CD player in my rack that I purchased in 1993 (?) for perhaps $125(?) that still works though it doesn’t see much use anymore since my CD library was ripped to my PiZero2W Volumio streamer three or four years ago.

If you feel ok about spending $10k on a CD player, great. I have lots of other toys I’ll buy with the $9800 saved.
 
spending < $1k for a player and rest of 9k for amazing collection is a sound decision.

P.s. Thank you for review.
 
If you feel ok about spending $10k on a CD player, great. I have lots of other toys I’ll buy with the $9800 saved.
I made it pretty clear I wouldn't spend that much as it is way outside my budget for gear. I understand it for people that have the budget and want top quality.
 
Fantastic review as always. Nice to see a high-end piece of gear like that performing this well.
 
Nice test of a well-designed CD player. Personally, I don't like this type of control buttons that feel cheap. Moreover, the functions of each are not clearly displayed.
On the other hand, the interior shows beautiful mechanics and careful assembly.
It is, of course, a high-end product whose quality/price ratio is by principle not very good, but here we have sufficiently high performance to somewhat justify its price. One of its qualities is having a real margin on oversampling, which is quite rare. We can also assume good reliability given the age of the device.
 
Thanks for the re-test. Looking at the innards, it cost HOW MUCH*? Mind you, HiFi News in recent years is full of expensive stuff like this with little inside...

[Edit - the layout and care in neatness of the innards is great I have to admit]

I'm sure a rep brought one of these round to try. *I think it was £2200 or so back then. Either our systems weren't good enough (possibly true) or the machine simply didn't have the claimed magic after all! Back then, a grand would buy you an excellent transparent player in posher livery (and a nice loading drawer) than the more mass produced tin boxes at five hundred quid or so ;)

That linear Philips drive was pants to me. Sure it plays red book discs, but error-prone discs. which the CD-M9 sailed through, would cause every player with this and related mechs to stick. Dress the sodding thing up all you like, but it's still a cheap mech underneath (in Lord knows how many versions that aren't necessarily compatible with each other all these years on...)

Lastly and while still in 'grumpy old git' mode, Naim put me off silly little pucks on CDs for ever; bloody things inclined to fly off into their machines, needing a case removal to access and the little tyres losing grip. I appreciate this one is posher (I don't like weights and clamps on vinyl players either - cough....

Apologies for the grumps above. Can you see if a Copland 266 player (then £1250) can be found and tested please. Maybe it's not as good as this one, but I believe the Sony mech can be had if necessary and if I'm not mistaken.
 
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Ouch, the Swiss tax hit it hard, 10 grand! It's a sub-1000 player in disguise, just look at how rudimentary the output stage is...a single quad op-amp?
That said, modern Accuphase is no better in that regard.
 
Hi everyone,

Thank you for your feedback and encouragements ;)

I can only agree with the high price, and it is unfortunately due to the workforce cost in Switzerland. The Big Mac index does not lie: not only is it the most expensive in the world, but people of Switzerland make money fast enough to afford it…

And of course, as being «Swiss Made», this Orpheus CD player could be nothing else but expensive. Now, and this must be the business case of Switzerland, it has to be best in class (for the period, in this case of course). And well, we get there :cool:

At the end of the day, Switzerland produces the most expensive products in the world, and they have to be «perfect». If you get the absolute guarantee that it is the case, you might accept the high price as a customer. Pressure is on Swiss citizens to deliver per expectations :eek:
 
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Rudimentary output stage.? How many OP-Amps do you need to surpass the Red Book Cd threshold, I think the measurement's speak for themselves.
 
Their current price list:

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Their most affordable offering is their CD player at €11,600

A bit too much, I think, even if you are paying for Swiss precision, when similar performance can be had for a lot less.

In any case, it is always with great interest that I read @NTTY 's reviews of exceptional gear.

Well done!
 
It's nothing but an expensive CD-ROM drive? This one has a disc tray machined from billet so the Rolex people see value? A $50 DAC equals or outperforms the best CD players...and it does more.
 
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