Organist headphone question

[markanini]

I ordered the Crinacle zero. I returned them. After trial I found the in ear thing causes fatigue on my end even on lower volumes. Plus my ears physically dislike it.

next try with be the FiiO Ft1 maybe together with the FiiO FT1 Pro. I ll report back how that goes and see from there.

P.s. I really appreciate the effort on the Messiaen, his music is quite different from the stuff I play on the organ, so I am a bit cautious to draw too strong conclusions from the observations of SoAndSo.

Which one? 7Hz Zero 1, 7Hz Zero 2, Truthear Zero, or Truthear Zero Blue 2?

 

[staticV3]

Which one? 7Hz Zero 1, 7Hz Zero 2, Truthear Zero, or Truthear Zero Blue 2?

don't forget the Zero Red

 

[SMc]

Disclaimer, I saw some here and in the beginner section. If this is not the intended place please let me know so I can pull the thread.

I am a semi-professional organist. Due to noise concerns for the neighbours (not that they ever complained but I d rather prevent those) I practice with headphones when practicing at home. Currently I am using Beyer DT770 PRO. These are plugged straight into the instrument. Next year however I am replacing the instrument with a setup using an RME UCX II.

The DT770 PRO needs replacing because I find them tiring to use. It feels like the pressure is really high, and when pulling in a lot of stops the transparency yo my ears is just completely lost. It is negatively impacting my motivation recently so that is a clear indicator for them to go...

I have no knowledge of audio systems what's however. I’ve tried some other beyer dynamics because that is the brand they run in music stores i can visit but found them all unsatisfactory. Hopefully with all the knowledge in this forum there are some relevant recommendations to be made.

I actually practice for the organ on my home Yamaha keyboard with sound from Mac Logic Pro amplified by my Onyx Producer interface. Since I'm not trying to reproduce a real instrument I'm able to get by with my NAD Viso HP50. Inspired by your question, I tried other headphones available. The open backed Grados were surprisingly good but did have a fatiguing high end with complex sounds such as settings with mixtures. My Etymotic 3 in-ear were good for room sound and isolation but were weak in the bass as one would guess from measurements.

I would point out the difference between producing a sound and playing back a recording and the weaknesses I noted depend on the standard organ sounds supplied by Logic Pro. The screechy settings were screechy on all the headphones.

Maybe the headphone playback system in your instrument is compressing the midrange with so much happening there. Is there another headphone amp system you could connect?

 

[Skyl2aider]

I totally forgot to reply, something with Holidays.

@markanini I bought the Truthear x Crinacle Zero: BLUE - In-Ear Monitors - IEM

My current organ is a Johannus Vivaldi 350, the components are in house made by the producer itself. I have no way to check the influence and quality of these components. Swapping them is out of the question since they are integrated into the hardware of the organ.

Next year I plan to switch to a hauptwerk setup with a RME UCS II. That will give me more control over the whole audio chain.

I did tune the organ myself regarding treble and bass for every individual stop plus the volume per key, so the sound itself in basis should be quite balanced towards my preferences.

 

[markanini]

I totally forgot to reply, something with Holidays.

@markanini I bought the Truthear x Crinacle Zero: BLUE - In-Ear Monitors - IEM

My current organ is a Johannus Vivaldi 350, the components are in house made by the producer itself. I have no way to check the influence and quality of these components. Swapping them is out of the question since they are integrated into the hardware of the organ.

Next year I plan to switch to a hauptwerk setup with a RME UCS II. That will give me more control over the whole audio chain.

I did tune the organ myself regarding treble and bass for every individual stop plus the volume per key, so the sound itself in basis should be quite balanced towards my preferences.

The Zero Blue may struggle to accurately reproduce the true timbre of your organ. This happens because the TE:0's impedance is nonlinear, and most built-in headphone outputs have an impedance higher than 0 Ohms. This creates an interactive condition that elevates the bass beyond what the manufacturer intended.

 

[jeffbook]

Indeed they measure even better than the Zeros. And this for 17 $

Truthear GATE $17 IEM Review

This is a review, listening tests, EQ and detailed measurements of the Truthear GATE IEM. Money was kindly donated for me to purchase it from Amazon for US $17.59. Not much to say about them other than they fit my ears very comfortably with the largest silicone tips included. Let's see how it...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Yep, I had a pair and they sounded great for 5 days, and then they lost all bass. Sent them back to Amazon. Crinacle Zero2's stuff performing great.

 

[SMc]

I totally forgot to reply, something with Holidays.

@markanini I bought the Truthear x Crinacle Zero: BLUE - In-Ear Monitors - IEM

My current organ is a Johannus Vivaldi 350, the components are in house made by the producer itself. I have no way to check the influence and quality of these components. Swapping them is out of the question since they are integrated into the hardware of the organ.

Next year I plan to switch to a hauptwerk setup with a RME UCS II. That will give me more control over the whole audio chain.

I did tune the organ myself regarding treble and bass for every individual stop plus the volume per key, so the sound itself in basis should be quite balanced towards my preferences.

I was thinking more of how a mixing board needs gain structure to avoid overloading the headphone output even though the individual sounds could be okay. Another experiment would be to add a headphone amp connected to the headphone jack.