OPPO BDP-95 Review (Blu-ray/DVD/SACD/CD Player)

[pma]

I cannot find an info on measurement bandwidth in the Hometheather plots. THD+N without measurement BW specified is a pointless number.

 

[Scytales]

I cannot find an info on measurement bandwidth in the Hometheather plots. THD+N without measurement BW specified is a pointless number.

Yes, I agree they have done a poor editing job for their review (to many words for not much meanings). The following review of the Oppo BDP-105 states, in the introductory part of the lab results, that all measurements done in their lab are made with an 80 kHz bandwidth (unless specified otherwise). We can only assume the same rule were followed for the review of the BDP-93/95, but who knows.

 

[perdido34]

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[pma]

Yes, I agree they have done a poor editing job for their review (to many words for not much meanings). The following review of the Oppo BDP-105 states, in the introductory part of the lab results, that all measurements done in their lab are made with an 80 kHz bandwidth (unless specified otherwise). We can only assume the same rule were followed for the review of the BDP-93/95, but who knows.

That would explain the numbers published. HF lift due to sigma delta noise shaping.

 

[Vintage02]

I don't want to seem intrusive, but I also may be interested by this files.

May I ask if it would be possible for me to get them as well, please ?

Hi, I send you a direct message.

 

[PristineSound]

SACD archiving, of course

I meant, I have a Sony that can run SACD ripper. The Sony costs $25.

 

[Scytales]

Update, yes they are active.

So I can test the "STEREO OUDIO OUT" and the FL & FR outputs, and I did that with my test CD (16bits, obviously).

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The below is from the RCA main stereo output (Left Channel):

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And now the same from the "FL" outpout:

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9dB less distortion!!!

@Rja4000 Since I'm here, this is the J-Test, from RCA outputs, with the vertical scale that goes down to -160dBr, so you can see the noise floor:

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The two outputs are identical.

EDIT: I could not resist to test 24bits PCM from the USB input.
This is the very standardized SINAD test of @amirm, that is 1kHz sine @0dBFS (2Vrms output), at 44.1kHz, with FFT length of 32k and 4 averages (3 for Amir, but I can't do only 3):

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SINAD of 113.3dB (113.8dB for Right Channel).

And the same from FL output:

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Now we get a SINAD of 118.3dB! (116.5 for right channel). So that's actually a little better than XLR too

We see two small PS related spikes at 50Hz and 100Hz (around -140dBr).

Just saw your edition of this answer!

All that is great news for the multichannel enthusiasts : just use the multichannel RCA output and enjoy your 2 channels stereo from the FR/FL output as well without any fear to loose anything!

It's also a testimony to the fact that balanced (XLR) is not systematically better on every occasion.

 

[gsp1971]

@NTTY thank you v. much for this review.

I own the Oppo BDP-105D which features twin ESS SABRE32 ES9018 DACs.

It is built like a tank.

I use it regularly for CD, SACD, and flac playback (through USB hard drive), and I am very happy with it.

When OPPO Digital left the player market in 2018, in their farewell statement they had stated that it was time to say goodbye since their disc players had reached "the pinnacle of their performance". Your review adds to the many reviews with measurements over the last 20 years that essentially confirm Oppo players were state-of-the-art.

 

[NTTY]

There is also an option - to use noise shaped dither for 16-bit redbook CD format. Below Marantz SA7001 (in CD mode) measured with 1kHz/-100dBFS sine test signal, with noise shaped dither. You are able to get as low as -120dBFS even with only 16 bits.

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Maybe I was unclear but that’s what I meant yes, in the previous message you quoted from me.
All my CD test files are tripled without dither, with rectangle dither and shape dither. Those without dither stop at -90dFBS while I go down to -110dBFS with rectangle and shape dither. I described them all here.
So I could have had a look at them but it was equally fast to record and play 24bits IMD at different levels from the USB key.
But since I have them (16bits files with shape dither), rapid copy/paste:

THD decreases:

The one below is wrongly tagged, it’s -16dBFS, not -12dBFS, and that’s when THD starts increasing:

THD gone now that we reached -50dBFS:

Span restricted to 6kHz for -110dBFS, to ensure the software gets the level of the tone (my interest with this test), not the noise.

 

[NTTY]

That would explain the numbers published. HF lift due to sigma delta noise shaping.

At least the BDP-95 would have been safe. The NS does not show itself before past 110kHz (2M FFT length, 32 averages, 768kHz ADC sampling rate), with a PCM 24bits/96kHz 1kHz @-6dBFS test tone:

 

[Scytales]

It would be interesting to see a wide-band analysis of the same kind with a track from the Denon SA-CD test disc. Perhaps the shape response of the digital filter for DSD onboard the ESS DAC would be (at least partially) apparent and comparison with other SA-CD players may be of some value.

 

[sceptical1]

Interesting results in that the consistent subjective opinions of superior playback performance for the Oppo 95 mirror other components with the same pedigree of having no compromised measurements, like a Grimm LS1, an NCx500 amp or a Fidler phono preamp. The accumulation of those perfect specifications allow us to imagine a live music event, not sinad and not directivity in isolation.

I wish most manufacturers took half the interest in product development as NTTY takes in testing their products. As George Sr. said, "Not gonna happen".

 

[NTTY]

It would be interesting to see a wide-band analysis of the same kind with a track from the Denon SA-CD test disc. Perhaps the shape response of the digital filter for DSD onboard the ESS DAC would be (at least partially) apparent and comparison with other SA-CD players may be of some value.

Sure, here you go:

Edit: I tested a 10kHz and let the analyzer include noise up to 90kHz.

First one in DSD native mode, direct conversion from the test file of the test SACD:

Second one in DSD to PCM mode, prior to conversion from the test file of the test SACD:

That's the reason why including noise and distortion up to 90kHz would be counter productive with SACD.

 

[enricoclaudio]

I have owned 7 Oppo players, including the 205 which I still owns. Sadly, 10 years after closing shop, there is nothing on the market compared to Oppo players. The heck, I purchased the 205 only for the analog section as a dedicated CD player. I sold the 95 and got the 105 then gave the 105 to my son in law and got a 203 and a 205. Sold the 203 for twice the price I paid and kept the 205. Today, I could sell the 205 for more than $2250 in less than 24 hours.

 

[PristineSound]

I have owned 7 Oppo players, including the 205 which I still owns. Sadly, 10 years after closing shop, there is nothing on the market compared to Oppo players. The heck, I purchased the 205 only for the analog section as a dedicated CD player. I sold the 95 and got the 105 then gave the 105 to my son in law and got a 203 and a 205. Sold the 203 for twice the price I paid and kept the 205. Today, I could sell the 205 for more than $2250 in less than 24 hours.

There is the Magnetar, but it's performance has not been measured by a third party yet.

I owned two 105D, both serves as my external DAC as well. I refused to pay $2k+ for a 205, besides they don't have the 205 in silver.

 

[enricoclaudio]

There is the Magnetar, but it's performance has not been measured by a third party yet.

I owned two 105D, both serves as my external DAC as well. I refused to pay $2k+ for a 205, besides they don't have the 205 in silver.

I paid $1229 for my 205 and $529 for the 203.

 

[PristineSound]

I paid $1229 for my 205 and $529 for the 203.

I would happily pay $1229 for the 205 before it went out of production but I wasn't in the market for one then.

 

[JSmith]

contact Oppo Digital support [ https://www.oppodigital.com/ ]; I believe they're still doing repair work, depending on parts availability.

Thanks, but I'd be doing any repair work myself and Oppo have not had any parts for the BDP-83 for many years. It uses the KEM-430AAB optical pickup drive assembly, which was used in some Sony players and some fat PS3's. They seem to vary drastically in price depending on whether it's from Ali-Express or eBay sellers. I have another few players for BD's anyway.


JSmith

 

[NTTY]

Just saw your edition of this answer!

All that is great news for the multichannel enthusiasts : just use the multichannel RCA output and enjoy your 2 channels stereo from the FR/FL output as well without any fear to loose anything!

It's also a testimony to the fact that balanced (XLR) is not systematically better on every occasion.

That is indeed a great value added of this multichannel player.

 

[Scytales]

There is the Magnetar, but it's performance has not been measured by a third party yet.

Magnetar players have been measured by third parties (more or less detailed measurements published in English or German):

• UDP800 (Secrets of Hometheater)
• UDP800 (Audio and AudioVision)
• UDP900 (Secrets of Hometheater)
• UDP900 (Stereo)
• UDP900 (Audio and AudioVision)