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Onkyo TX-RZ50 Review (Home Theater AVR)

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My Integra DRX3.4 has been troublefree, even though it was purchased via pre-release order, so I had one of the earliest production models to hit Australia
It’s worth noting that my RZ50 never got hot, or even warm to the touch, and I never heard the internal fan kick on. This was strictly an HDMI board issue, which Onkyo/Integra is unfortunately notorious for.
 
It’s worth noting that my RZ50 never got hot, or even warm to the touch, and I never heard the internal fan kick on. This was strictly an HDMI board issue, which Onkyo/Integra is unfortunately notorious for.
Oh…but whoever have owned including many people closer to me has informed that these famous onkyo hdmi issues were fixed in after 2020 models….but only time will tell….

Your case is still making me doubtful if i have to go with the rz50….integra afaik has slightly better components compared to onkyo even though they are the same design.
 
It’s worth noting that my RZ50 never got hot, or even warm to the touch, and I never heard the internal fan kick on. This was strictly an HDMI board issue, which Onkyo/Integra is unfortunately notorious for.
I have a feeling the RZ50 and DRX3.4 share the same HDMI board... and yes, one of my criteria in choosing the current series for my AVR was that it had to run cool - unlike previous generations!

However you may just have received an odd lemon - it can happen - overall there have been few reports in the user forums of such issues...
 
I have a feeling the RZ50 and DRX3.4 share the same HDMI board... and yes, one of my criteria in choosing the current series for my AVR was that it had to run cool - unlike previous generations!

However you may just have received an odd lemon - it can happen - overall there have been few reports in the user forums of such issues...
Exactly. To the point. There are lemons for all models irrespective of the brand.
For eg: I had a yamaha a3080 which my unit was an absolute lemon. Yamaha are generally known for their reliability.

All these years i have bought used avr, all of them gave me trouble. And those were top of the line models from Denon/marantz (denon 7200w, 8500h. , marantz 8012,8015). Since this rz50 is cheap when bought brand new i thought of getting it and using it with care…. Most people here in India get rid of avrs when it start giving issues (and thats when people like me buy used and have trouble with it).

Since this rz50 comes with 18 months warranty, i hope that time duration is enough for me to decide if this unit is lemon…. is it?
 
And i really dont know how marantz/denon are super reliable for some of you…. i had their flagships all of them failed or gave me issues
 
And i really dont know how marantz/denon are super reliable for some of you…. i had their flagships all of them failed or gave me issues
For what it’s worth, the Denon that I replaced my RZ50 with DOES run hot, and absolutely needs the AC Infinity fan that I bought to sit on top of it. But it’s been flawlessly reliable.
 
Exactly. To the point. There are lemons for all models irrespective of the brand.
For eg: I had a yamaha a3080 which my unit was an absolute lemon. Yamaha are generally known for their reliability.

All these years i have bought used avr, all of them gave me trouble. And those were top of the line models from Denon/marantz (denon 7200w, 8500h. , marantz 8012,8015). Since this rz50 is cheap when bought brand new i thought of getting it and using it with care…. Most people here in India get rid of avrs when it start giving issues (and thats when people like me buy used and have trouble with it).

Since this rz50 comes with 18 months warranty, i hope that time duration is enough for me to decide if this unit is lemon…. is it?

With most electronica, if it works in the first 3 months, then it is generally good for its "lifetime" - how long that lifetime is.... that is a seperate issue.

The current Onkyo/Integra generation run very cool - which resolves a long standing heat issue which led to reduced lives for some of the previous generation AVR's they had (which I know well from sad experience!)

The Onkyo's seem to run substantially cooler than most of their competitors - which bodes well for a long service life.

My previous Onkyo/Integra's were models from their flagship range - and they failed within 5 years (out of warranty) - with failures which were due to manufacturing faults exacerbated by heat... without the heat, the manufacturing faults would not have manifested...
Hence my comment about heat and long services life - even with a known flawed DSP from TI, the old AVR would have been OK if it kept the DSP below 50C.... but it didn't - in theory the DSP should have been fine running at 70c ... in practice, due to a manufacturing fault, at that temperature (which was within its factory specs from TI) - the DSP would twist, breaking the BGA solder joints on the underside - and bricking the AVR.
But had there been a heatsink on the DSP, the operating temperature would have dropped by most probably 10C, and the manufacturing fault would never have been triggered!!.

Which is why I recommend to people that if their AVR runs very hot, open it up and fit heatsinks to the hot chips.... it is likely to result in increased service life!
 
After several unrepairable failures a few years out of warrantee for expensive top of the line AVR's I gave up and went vintage stereo / DIY stereo. I learned a lot and have a lot of fun. I am considering trying MC again but when I look at the back of an AVR and imagine how unbelievably complicated both the hardware and software are (It is amazing they work at all) I haven't been able to pull the trigger.
 
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After several unrepairable failures a few years out of warrantee for exoensive top of the line AVR's I gave up and went vintage stereo / DIY stereo. I learned a lot and have a lot of fun. I am considering trying MC again but when I look at the back of an AVR and imagine how unbelievably complicated both the hardware and software are (It is amazing they work at all) I haven't been able to pull the trigger.
Yes.... I have amps from the 1980's that work like new, and sound great - and are also easily serviceable.

The AVR's (and their AVP brethren) are basically disposable technology items.... if they fail, or when their feature set is made redundant by changing standards, they become disposable "boat anchors".

Also many of the manufacturers seem to have given up on stocking parts for them, if they fail within warranty, they seem to just ship out a replacement new unit (or refurb...) - after warranty, replacement circuit boards are "unobtainium".

However, of you want to be able to decode / reproduce Atmos, DTS etc... at home, there isn't much of an alternative!
 
For what it’s worth, the Denon that I replaced my RZ50 with DOES run hot, and absolutely needs the AC Infinity fan that I bought to sit on top of it. But it’s been flawlessly reliable.
You replaced it with the 3700h i guess… and its been only 1-2 years?

My previous denon/marantz were solid in hdmi sections but their power PCB channels sucked bad….. Always used to get DC from speakers which inturn took out the transistors.
Easy fix, but still expect better out of such an expensive product.

When i spoke to a reputed technician he told me it is an inherent design fault with the pcbs in which the traces are so close to each other that if it is exposed to a slight humid environment the adjacent traces get conductive thereby shorting.
 
With most electronica, if it works in the first 3 months, then it is generally good for its "lifetime" - how long that lifetime is.... that is a seperate issue.

The current Onkyo/Integra generation run very cool - which resolves a long standing heat issue which led to reduced lives for some of the previous generation AVR's they had (which I know well from sad experience!)

The Onkyo's seem to run substantially cooler than most of their competitors - which bodes well for a long service life.

My previous Onkyo/Integra's were models from their flagship range - and they failed within 5 years (out of warranty) - with failures which were due to manufacturing faults exacerbated by heat... without the heat, the manufacturing faults would not have manifested...
Hence my comment about heat and long services life - even with a known flawed DSP from TI, the old AVR would have been OK if it kept the DSP below 50C.... but it didn't - in theory the DSP should have been fine running at 70c ... in practice, due to a manufacturing fault, at that temperature (which was within its factory specs from TI) - the DSP would twist, breaking the BGA solder joints on the underside - and bricking the AVR.
But had there been a heatsink on the DSP, the operating temperature would have dropped by most probably 10C, and the manufacturing fault would never have been triggered!!.

Which is why I recommend to people that if their AVR runs very hot, open it up and fit heatsinks to the hot chips.... it is likely to result in increased service life!
Well yes. But the denon i have had never heated nor got barely even warm. But its hdmi were solid. No issue whatsoever.

Actually for pcb issue heat was in favour…
 
After several unrepairable failures a few years out of warrantee for exoensive top of the line AVR's I gave up and went vintage stereo / DIY stereo. I learned a lot and have a lot of fun. I am considering trying MC again but when I look at the back of an AVR and imagine how unbelievably complicated both the hardware and software are (It is amazing they work at all) I haven't been able to pull the trigger.
same here. I Have various stereo amps that DOESNT EVEN CARE. It simply goes forever. My last yamaha was rxv440(without hdmi) that is 25 years old and still works.

At one point of time i even thought of completely switching to stereo. But for movies once you experience surround sound its very hard to go back to stereo. Music is fine though.
 
Yes.... I have amps from the 1980's that work like new, and sound great - and are also easily serviceable.

The AVR's (and their AVP brethren) are basically disposable technology items.... if they fail, or when their feature set is made redundant by changing standards, they become disposable "boat anchors".

Also many of the manufacturers seem to have given up on stocking parts for them, if they fail within warranty, they seem to just ship out a replacement new unit (or refurb...) - after warranty, replacement circuit boards are "unobtainium".

However, of you want to be able to decode / reproduce Atmos, DTS etc... at home, there isn't much of an alternative!
There is actually alternative…non hdmi avr models from 2000s. But you get only DD and DTS. And max 5.1 or 7ch
 
Well yes. But the denon i have had never heated nor got barely even warm. But its hdmi were solid. No issue whatsoever.

Actually for pcb issue heat was in favour…
Possibly the heat was an advantage in a humid climate?

Whereas in our dry climate it would have no positives...
 
Possibly the heat was an advantage in a humid climate?

Whereas in our dry climate it would have no positives...
Yes. It was very advantageous. All the issue vanishes when i keep the amp turned on in idle all day. But once i turn off and it gets cold, turning it back on again was nightmare. There would be “DC” pop on all channels randomly. And it would go on protection mode. Sometimes shorting out the transistors along with it thereby staying in protect forever. If lucky it will turn back on without any short. Also its very moist climate here with continuous rain. On summer there are zero issues. Works fine even when turned off.

So always in monsoon i keep the amps on idle most of the time with a blanket on top to heat up and avoid condensation.

But after all these, the hdmi board was super solid. Only power/pcb side issues.
 
Yes. It was very advantageous. All the issue vanishes when i keep the amp turned on in idle all day. But once i turn off and it gets cold, turning it back on again was nightmare. There would be “DC” pop on all channels randomly. And it would go on protection mode. Sometimes shorting out the transistors along with it thereby staying in protect forever. If lucky it will turn back on without any short. Also its very moist climate here with continuous rain. On summer there are zero issues. Works fine even when turned off.

So always in monsoon i keep the amps on idle most of the time with a blanket on top to heat up and avoid condensation.

But after all these, the hdmi board was super solid. Only power/pcb side issues.
But despite all these, have a denon pma 510ae, crown xti 4002 and yamaha rx v440 reciever in the same room. They work without missing a beat. It simply doesn’t have any trouble in this moist weather. And i dont even cover them when not in use.

The technician told me it is an inherent design fault with all the higher end denon/marantz models(where they use individual pcb for each channels). The pcb traces are designed so close to each other that it becomes conductive in moist weather thereby shorting.

He told me he will design and fabricate custom pcbs, which should solve the design fault. That is, by spacing the traces with adequate distance between them. He is still working on it
 
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Adorama in NYC is currently offering the Onkyo TX-RZ50 AVR for $899 after applying a digital coupon at checkout.

 
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