My honest opinion is, the RZ has better specs and measurements, so if you don't need 4 subouts it may be better but if you can get the 4800 at sales price, it may be a better value.
where did you find the measurements?
Audioholics has a decent bench test:
www.audioholics.com
Are you sure about that, I though if you sold the unit, let them know about the details of the unit, they would do the transfer but that's only what I thought. In my opinion, they should do it, at least for a reasonable fee to cover whatever cost (such as administrative cost??). Otherwise it will likely hurt their potential sales revenue in the long run. It should also be easy to do because they did the license validating online (just my educated guess because on how they do it with the PC standalone version), so won't be a whole lot of paper work.
You obviously is an experience hobbyist so I am surprise you still seem to buy in to that so called good for music thing (no offense, sort of just kidding..) The more likely truth is, if it is good for music it is good for movies. Marantz is one of the origin of such talks, I've got to give their market the credit for being so successful over the years influencing so many believers.
Oh I see what you are saying. The denon for me is more based on the results I am getting from audyssey. I find they are really very good and I have worked on getting that sound by tweaking and measuring over and over. No I don't really believe in brand difference. I was just more concerned if I was missing out with the proposed ART and DLBC.You obviously is an experience hobbyist so I am surprise you still seem to buy in to that so called good for music thing (no offense, sort of just kidding..) The more likely truth is, if it is good for music it is good for movies. Marantz is one of the origin of such talks, I've got to give their market the credit for being so successful over the years influencing so many believers.
Anyway, I am sure when the two are compared side by side in a controlled blind listening test, no one can tell a difference if DSPs are not involved. I do know I cannot, and will not convince anyone who believe the opposite is true lol.
Regardless, I guess you are going to keep the Denon. One thing about Denon vs Onkyo is that one seems to have a better track record on perceived reliability, but I have not seen any real proof one way or the other.
I've heard of folks getting a license migrated (say from a 3800 to a 6800) but not across brands. I'm sure it can be done if you get really chummy w/the local Dirac rep.
I've heard of folks getting a license migrated (say from a 3800 to a 6800) but not across brands. I'm sure it can be done if you get really chummy w/the local Dirac rep.
A quick heads up: the last Dirac 30% off was around BF of 2023. This past BF in 2024, the discount was reduced to 20%.
I realized that, but my suggestion is for him to wait for the 30% because I think it will come back, they offered that more than once before iirc. As they sell more, their fixed costs should go down and can therefore afford deeper sales once in a while. For those who won't use Audyssey but really like DL, then I would say no point waiting anyway.
