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Onkyo C-7030 Review (CD Player)

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Hello everyone,

This is a review and measurements of the Onkyo C-7030 CD player and transport:

View attachment 472879

Yes, there's one more item than usual on the picture, and it's not included :)


Onkyo C-7030 - Presentation

This Onkyo has been available under this reference for quite sometime. This is a brand new item that I got.
You can see that it's a CD Player only (I like that), no USB input but a phones out (I love that too).

This CD Player has been discussed in many places, including here on ASR and I read that it was using either a Wolfson WM8718 or an AK4482. But when I measured the Onkyo, I did not find the filter performance reported by any of these two DACs. So there had to be another explanation, meaning I had to open it to check:

View attachment 472880

And yes, not an AK nor a Wolfson here but a more classic BurrBrown (TI) PCM1753 of which filter performances are:

View attachment 472881

And this is exactly what I measured (see later below in the measurements section)

The back of the Onkyo shows the necessary and essential:

View attachment 472884

No, you can't improve the sound replacing power cord, no you can't... ;)

The inside is neat:

View attachment 472885

Closer view at the board:

View attachment 472886

Besides taking 10sec to read the TOC of my test CD, I was pleasantly surprised by a very fast mech, much faster than the ones of the Denon DCD-900NE or the Yamaha CD-S303 to which you might compare this one.

I listened to it via an external headphones amplifier and with my usual Beyer DT-770Pro 32ohms, and this player made me happy.


Onkyo C-7030 - Measurements (RCA Out)

All measurements performed with an E1DA Cosmos ADCiso (grade 0), and the Cosmos Scaler (100kohms from unbalanced input) for analog outputs, and a Motu UltraLite Mk5 for digital.

I am now consistent with my specific measurements for CD Players, as I described them in the post “More than we hear”, and as I reported them for the Onkyo C-733 review. Over time, this will help comparing the devices I reviewed.

The Onkyo is shy by only 0.132dB of the standard 2Vrms output. The two channels are matched at 0.09dB, which is good. Phase is dead flat.

----

As usual, let's start with my standard 999.91Hz sine @0dBFS (without dither) from the Test CD (RCA out):

View attachment 472890

The THD+N is dominated by THD at this highest digital level. But the calculated SNR, in the presence of this highest level signal is a very good 97.2dB, very close to the max theoretical 98dB of PCM 16bits.

Let's try the same @-6dB:

View attachment 472891

The THD decreased by 6dB which means this DAC does not like playing too loud.

I think you saw a very silent CD Player totally free of power supply related spuriae:

View attachment 472892

It's good when it's that clean.

----

Next is the bandwidth:

View attachment 472893

We get -0.5dB at 20kHz, and we see some ripple, again in line with the published specs of TI (+-0.04dB).
A wider view will tell us more:

View attachment 472896

We get -50dB attenuation with a stop-band at 24.1kHz, as per the specs. The increase of noise floor beyond 30kHz is due to the noise shaper of the converter.
This is not a high performer per today's standards.

----

Let's have a look at the multitone test that a lot of you like very much:

View attachment 472898

Right channel has a little more noise/distortion, but it clears the audio CD content anyways (roughly -100dB). So that is very good.

----

Let's have a look at the Jitter:

View attachment 472899

Red trace is from the digital output of the Onkyo and the blue one from analog RCA.
We get minimum lateral rays, of no concern. This is a very good trace.

----

Started with the Teac VRDS-20 review, and on your request + support to get it done (more here), I'm adding now an "intersample-overs" test which intends to identify the behavior of the digital filtering and DAC when it come to process near clipping signals. Because of the oversampling, there might be interpolated data that go above 0dBFS and would saturate (clip) the DAC and therefore the output. And this effect shows through distorsion (THD+N measurement up to 96kHz):
Intersample-overs tests
Bandwidth of the THD+N measurements is 20Hz - 96kHz
5512.5 Hz sine,
Peak = +0.69dBFS
7350 Hz sine,
Peak = +1.25dBFS
11025 Hz sine,
Peak = +3.0dBFS
Teac VRDS-20-30.7dB-26.6dB-17.6dB
Yamaha CD-1-84.6dB-84.9dB-78.1dB
Denon DCD-900NE-34.2dB-27.1dB-19.1dB
Denon DCD-SA1-33.6dB-27.6dB-18.3dB
Onkyo C-733-88.3dB-40.4dB-21.2dB
Denon DCD-3560-30.2dB-24.7dB-17.4dB
Myryad Z210-70.6dB (noise dominated)-71.1dB (noise dominated)-29.4dB (H3 dominated)
Sony CDP-X333ES-30.5dB-24.8dB-16.3dB
BARCO-EMT 982-32.7dB-24.5dB-16.3dB
TASCAM CD-200-73.5dB-36.3dB-19.7dB
Sony CDP-597-30.4dB-24.7dB-16.5dB
Onkyo C-7030-76.6dB-37.6dB-21.6dB

The results of the Onkyo show that its interpolator has a good 1dB headroom to process too hot signals, which is good news.

----

Let's continue with the good old 3DC measurement that Stereophile was often using as a proof of low noise DAC. It is from an undithered 997Hz sine at -90.31dBFS. With 16bits, the signal should appear (on a scope) as the 3DC levels of the smallest symmetrical sign magnitude digital signal:

View attachment 472900

We can easily recognized the 3 primary levels, which should be a square, with a good symmetry. We have minimum noise to disturb the signal. The ringing os due to the reconstruction filter (symmetrical impulse response) and the Gibbs phenomenon (limited band to 22.05kHz).

----

Other measurements (not shown):
  • IMD AES-17 DFD "Analog" (18kHz & 20kHz 1:1) : -83.9dB
  • IMD AES-17 DFD "Digital" (17'987Hz & 19'997Hz 1:1) : -78.9dB
  • IMD AES-17 MD (41Hz & 7993Hz 4:1): -81.1dB
  • IMD DIN (250Hz & 8kHz 4:1) : -76.7dB
  • IMD CCIF (19kHz & 20kHz 1:1) : -78.6dB
  • IMD SMPTE (60Hz & 7kHz 1:4) : -77.2dB
  • IMD TDFD Bass (41Hz & 89Hz 1:1) : -96.9dB
  • IMD TDFD (13'58Hz & 19841Hz 1:1) : -92.8dB
  • Dynamic Range : 97.9dB (without dither @-60dBFS)
  • Crosstalk: -121dBr (100hz), -120dBr (1kHz), -98.5dBr (10kHz)
  • Pitch Error : 19'997.26Hz (19'997Hz requested) ie 13ppm
  • Gapless playback : Yes
The IMD scores are good, even if 20dB lower than best in class.
The Dynamic range and crosstalk are very god. The clock is precise at 13ppm.

----

Last and not least, I like to run a THD vs Frequency sweep at -12dBFS as it shows how the conversion has evolved over time. I am currently using the beta version of REW and I discovered that this sweep gives better and more reliable results than before:

View attachment 472901

You can see that at this -12dBFS, the BurrBrown still suffers from harmonic distortion when compared to the best in class. Right channel suffers a little more (look at the legend).

----

As I did with the Sony CDP-597, I'm introducing a new "max DAC resolution" measurement. It's performed from a 999.91Hz sine @-12dBFS with shape dither. I restrict the THD+N span to 20Hz - 6kHz not to account for the noise of the shape dither beyond 6kHz. That gives me a local max resolution, which should be higher than 17bits as a proof that the CD Player can actually resolve more than the Audio CD.

Here are the results of the Onkyo compared to others:
CD Player model or DACCalculated ENOB (999.91Hz sine @-12dBFS with shape dither, THD+N span = 20Hz - 6kHz)Percentage of max resolution achieved (higher is better)
SMSL PS-200 (from CD player)18.6bits100%
Denon DCD-900NE18.5bits99.4%
Onkyo C-73318bits96.7%
SMSL PL10017.9bits96.2%
Sony CDP-59717.5bits94%
Onkyo DX-735517.3bits93%
Denon DCD-356017.2bits92.5%
Onkyo C-703017.2bits92.5%
Yamaha CD-S30316.8bits90.3%
Accuphase DP-7016.6bits89.2%
Sony CDP-337ESD16.6bits89.2%
Teac VRDS-25x16.5bits88.7%
Marantz CD-7314.9bits80.1%

I showed the best of the two channels (left) but note that the right one achieves only 16.6bits on this test, again because of its higher distorsion, and that would put it on lower end of that table, actually below my threshold of 17bits. Too bad...


Onkyo C-7030 - Testing the drive

What would be good measurements if the drive would not properly read a slightly scratched CD, or one that was created at the limits of the norm? The below tests reply to these questions.

The Onkyo took a relatively long 10 seconds to read the TOC of my 40 tracks test CD. It operates in total silence.

Here are the results:
Test typeTechnical testResults
Variation of linear cutting velocityFrom 1.20m/s to 1.40m/sPass
Variation of track pitchFrom 1.5µm to 1.7µmPass
Combined variations of track pitch and velocityFrom 1.20m/s & 1.5µm to 1.40m/s & 1.7µmPass
HF detection (asymmetry pitch/flat ratio)Variation from 2% to 18%Pass
Dropouts resistanceFrom 0.05mm (0.038ms) to 4mm (3.080ms)Up to 1.25mm
Combined dropouts and smallest pitchFrom 1.5µm & 1mm to 1.5µm & 2.4mmUp to 1mm
Successive dropoutsFrom 2x0.1mm to 2x3mmUp to 1mm

The Onkyo was able to read without generating typical digital noise with dropouts up to 1.25mm. I could measure interpolation starting as early as with 0.75mm but I could not hear it. It had no issue with HF detection nor variation of trach pitch and velocity. These results are on the low end for a modern CD Player, but I guess this a payback for the speed of the drive...


Onkyo C-7030 - Measurements (Digital Optical Out)

I know several of you want to know, is it a good transport?

So let's go with the 999.91Hz @0dBFS:

View attachment 472903

It is as I see it from the original WAV that I burnt of the CD, and that the Onkyo is playing here ;)

Same with my usual 3DC measurement:

View attachment 472904

As we want to see it.

The final proof (to me) is when I reuse the intersamples over test at 5512.50Hz, with a phase shift of 67.5°, like I did for the TASCAM CD-200 review. This signal generates an overshoot of +0.69dB and so if the signal would be modified before being sent, it would show either a reduction of amplitude or we'd see some sort of saturation/increase noise/distorsion. So here we go, the below is a comparison between the WAV File directly processed by the PC, and when played by the Onkyo via the optical out:

View attachment 472905

They are the same, so no digital modification, ie perfect transport.


Conclusion

The Onkyo is nice looking and decent performing CD player, to me. I got to measure what I see from older very good CD Players, and you have a warranty!

As a transport, it shines. Only we would have loved to get more resistance to scratched CDs, but it's still as good or better than many old KSS Laser heads from Sony.

This is a good competitor of the Yamaha CD-S303. They have different but very close performances. If one is cheaper than the other with your preferred reseller, then you know what to do!

I hope you enjoyed this review and have lovely weekend!

Flo
Thanks for the detailed insightful review

I have Pioneer pd-10ae, and it's almost identical to this Onkyo, but without digital output. As a player it has flat good balance presentation, I like it.
Do you think this Onkyo as a transport is significantly better than a player?
 
I couldn't tell any difference.
Thanks

I just got the Onkyo c-7030 and as a player is identical to Pioneer pd-10ae. As a transport is better with slight difference. .I connected it to Denafrips Enyo 15th and SMSL su-1.
I have Shanling et3 and it's superior to Onkyo and the recently released Marantz cd60.
 
Here's another one considering buying this CD player. I've been thinking on the Denon DCD-900NE (348€ in southern Europe) or Marantz CD6007 (415€). The cheapest I see this Onkyo is about 299€. I guess the three of them sound almost the same, so will shoot to the first one that moves xD
They are not the same.

I have not heard the Denon but I had marantz cd60, the new model.
Marantz is superior to Onkyo which i just got now and use it as transport.

Good luck
 
Thanks

I just got the Onkyo c-7030 and as a player is identical to Pioneer pd-10ae. As a transport is better with slight difference. .I connected it to Denafrips Enyo 15th and SMSL su-1.
I have Shanling et3 and it's superior to Onkyo and the recently released Marantz cd60.
Not identical, but damn close.

Onkyo C-7030
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Pioneer PD-10AE

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Hello everyone,

This is a review and measurements of the Onkyo C-7030 CD player and transport:

View attachment 472879

Yes, there's one more item than usual on the picture, and it's not included :)


Onkyo C-7030 - Presentation

This Onkyo has been available under this reference for quite sometime. This is a brand new item that I got.
You can see that it's a CD Player only (I like that), no USB input but a phones out (I love that too).

This CD Player has been discussed in many places, including here on ASR and I read that it was using either a Wolfson WM8718 or an AK4482. But when I measured the Onkyo, I did not find the filter performance reported by any of these two DACs. So there had to be another explanation, meaning I had to open it to check:

View attachment 472880

And yes, not an AK nor a Wolfson here but a more classic BurrBrown (TI) PCM1753 of which filter performances are:

View attachment 472881

And this is exactly what I measured (see later below in the measurements section)

The back of the Onkyo shows the necessary and essential:

View attachment 472884

No, you can't improve the sound replacing power cord, no you can't... ;)

The inside is neat:

View attachment 472885

Closer view at the board:

View attachment 472886

Besides taking 10sec to read the TOC of my test CD, I was pleasantly surprised by a very fast mech, much faster than the ones of the Denon DCD-900NE or the Yamaha CD-S303 to which you might compare this one.

I listened to it via an external headphones amplifier and with my usual Beyer DT-770Pro 32ohms, and this player made me happy.


Onkyo C-7030 - Measurements (RCA Out)

All measurements performed with an E1DA Cosmos ADCiso (grade 0), and the Cosmos Scaler (100kohms from unbalanced input) for analog outputs, and a Motu UltraLite Mk5 for digital.

I am now consistent with my specific measurements for CD Players, as I described them in the post “More than we hear”, and as I reported them for the Onkyo C-733 review. Over time, this will help comparing the devices I reviewed.

The Onkyo is shy by only 0.132dB of the standard 2Vrms output. The two channels are matched at 0.09dB, which is good. Phase is dead flat.

----

As usual, let's start with my standard 999.91Hz sine @0dBFS (without dither) from the Test CD (RCA out):

View attachment 472890

The THD+N is dominated by THD at this highest digital level. But the calculated SNR, in the presence of this highest level signal is a very good 97.2dB, very close to the max theoretical 98dB of PCM 16bits.

Let's try the same @-6dB:

View attachment 472891

The THD decreased by 6dB which means this DAC does not like playing too loud.

I think you saw a very silent CD Player totally free of power supply related spuriae:

View attachment 472892

It's good when it's that clean.

----

Next is the bandwidth:

View attachment 472893

We get -0.5dB at 20kHz, and we see some ripple, again in line with the published specs of TI (+-0.04dB).
A wider view will tell us more:

View attachment 472896

We get -50dB attenuation with a stop-band at 24.1kHz, as per the specs. The increase of noise floor beyond 30kHz is due to the noise shaper of the converter.
This is not a high performer per today's standards.

----

Let's have a look at the multitone test that a lot of you like very much:

View attachment 472898

Right channel has a little more noise/distortion, but it clears the audio CD content anyways (roughly -100dB). So that is very good.

----

Let's have a look at the Jitter:

View attachment 472899

Red trace is from the digital output of the Onkyo and the blue one from analog RCA.
We get minimum lateral rays, of no concern. This is a very good trace.

----

Started with the Teac VRDS-20 review, and on your request + support to get it done (more here), I'm adding now an "intersample-overs" test which intends to identify the behavior of the digital filtering and DAC when it come to process near clipping signals. Because of the oversampling, there might be interpolated data that go above 0dBFS and would saturate (clip) the DAC and therefore the output. And this effect shows through distorsion (THD+N measurement up to 96kHz):
Intersample-overs tests
Bandwidth of the THD+N measurements is 20Hz - 96kHz
5512.5 Hz sine,
Peak = +0.69dBFS
7350 Hz sine,
Peak = +1.25dBFS
11025 Hz sine,
Peak = +3.0dBFS
Teac VRDS-20-30.7dB-26.6dB-17.6dB
Yamaha CD-1-84.6dB-84.9dB-78.1dB
Denon DCD-900NE-34.2dB-27.1dB-19.1dB
Denon DCD-SA1-33.6dB-27.6dB-18.3dB
Onkyo C-733-88.3dB-40.4dB-21.2dB
Denon DCD-3560-30.2dB-24.7dB-17.4dB
Myryad Z210-70.6dB (noise dominated)-71.1dB (noise dominated)-29.4dB (H3 dominated)
Sony CDP-X333ES-30.5dB-24.8dB-16.3dB
BARCO-EMT 982-32.7dB-24.5dB-16.3dB
TASCAM CD-200-73.5dB-36.3dB-19.7dB
Sony CDP-597-30.4dB-24.7dB-16.5dB
Onkyo C-7030-76.6dB-37.6dB-21.6dB

The results of the Onkyo show that its interpolator has a good 1dB headroom to process too hot signals, which is good news.

----

Let's continue with the good old 3DC measurement that Stereophile was often using as a proof of low noise DAC. It is from an undithered 997Hz sine at -90.31dBFS. With 16bits, the signal should appear (on a scope) as the 3DC levels of the smallest symmetrical sign magnitude digital signal:

View attachment 472900

We can easily recognized the 3 primary levels, which should be a square, with a good symmetry. We have minimum noise to disturb the signal. The ringing os due to the reconstruction filter (symmetrical impulse response) and the Gibbs phenomenon (limited band to 22.05kHz).

----

Other measurements (not shown):
  • IMD AES-17 DFD "Analog" (18kHz & 20kHz 1:1) : -83.9dB
  • IMD AES-17 DFD "Digital" (17'987Hz & 19'997Hz 1:1) : -78.9dB
  • IMD AES-17 MD (41Hz & 7993Hz 4:1): -81.1dB
  • IMD DIN (250Hz & 8kHz 4:1) : -76.7dB
  • IMD CCIF (19kHz & 20kHz 1:1) : -78.6dB
  • IMD SMPTE (60Hz & 7kHz 1:4) : -77.2dB
  • IMD TDFD Bass (41Hz & 89Hz 1:1) : -96.9dB
  • IMD TDFD (13'58Hz & 19841Hz 1:1) : -92.8dB
  • Dynamic Range : 97.9dB (without dither @-60dBFS)
  • Crosstalk: -121dBr (100hz), -120dBr (1kHz), -98.5dBr (10kHz)
  • Pitch Error : 19'997.26Hz (19'997Hz requested) ie 13ppm
  • Gapless playback : Yes
The IMD scores are good, even if 20dB lower than best in class.
The Dynamic range and crosstalk are very god. The clock is precise at 13ppm.

----

Last and not least, I like to run a THD vs Frequency sweep at -12dBFS as it shows how the conversion has evolved over time. I am currently using the beta version of REW and I discovered that this sweep gives better and more reliable results than before:

View attachment 472901

You can see that at this -12dBFS, the BurrBrown still suffers from harmonic distortion when compared to the best in class. Right channel suffers a little more (look at the legend).

----

As I did with the Sony CDP-597, I'm introducing a new "max DAC resolution" measurement. It's performed from a 999.91Hz sine @-12dBFS with shape dither. I restrict the THD+N span to 20Hz - 6kHz not to account for the noise of the shape dither beyond 6kHz. That gives me a local max resolution, which should be higher than 17bits as a proof that the CD Player can actually resolve more than the Audio CD.

Here are the results of the Onkyo compared to others:
CD Player model or DACCalculated ENOB (999.91Hz sine @-12dBFS with shape dither, THD+N span = 20Hz - 6kHz)Percentage of max resolution achieved (higher is better)
SMSL PS-200 (from CD player)18.6bits100%
Denon DCD-900NE18.5bits99.4%
Onkyo C-73318bits96.7%
SMSL PL10017.9bits96.2%
Sony CDP-59717.5bits94%
Onkyo DX-735517.3bits93%
Denon DCD-356017.2bits92.5%
Onkyo C-703017.2bits92.5%
Yamaha CD-S30316.8bits90.3%
Accuphase DP-7016.6bits89.2%
Sony CDP-337ESD16.6bits89.2%
Teac VRDS-25x16.5bits88.7%
Marantz CD-7314.9bits80.1%

I showed the best of the two channels (left) but note that the right one achieves only 16.6bits on this test, again because of its higher distorsion, and that would put it on lower end of that table, actually below my threshold of 17bits. Too bad...


Onkyo C-7030 - Testing the drive

What would be good measurements if the drive would not properly read a slightly scratched CD, or one that was created at the limits of the norm? The below tests reply to these questions.

The Onkyo took a relatively long 10 seconds to read the TOC of my 40 tracks test CD. It operates in total silence.

Here are the results:
Test typeTechnical testResults
Variation of linear cutting velocityFrom 1.20m/s to 1.40m/sPass
Variation of track pitchFrom 1.5µm to 1.7µmPass
Combined variations of track pitch and velocityFrom 1.20m/s & 1.5µm to 1.40m/s & 1.7µmPass
HF detection (asymmetry pitch/flat ratio)Variation from 2% to 18%Pass
Dropouts resistanceFrom 0.05mm (0.038ms) to 4mm (3.080ms)Up to 1.25mm
Combined dropouts and smallest pitchFrom 1.5µm & 1mm to 1.5µm & 2.4mmUp to 1mm
Successive dropoutsFrom 2x0.1mm to 2x3mmUp to 1mm

The Onkyo was able to read without generating typical digital noise with dropouts up to 1.25mm. I could measure interpolation starting as early as with 0.75mm but I could not hear it. It had no issue with HF detection nor variation of trach pitch and velocity. These results are on the low end for a modern CD Player, but I guess this a payback for the speed of the drive...


Onkyo C-7030 - Measurements (Digital Optical Out)

I know several of you want to know, is it a good transport?

So let's go with the 999.91Hz @0dBFS:

View attachment 472903

It is as I see it from the original WAV that I burnt of the CD, and that the Onkyo is playing here ;)

Same with my usual 3DC measurement:

View attachment 472904

As we want to see it.

The final proof (to me) is when I reuse the intersamples over test at 5512.50Hz, with a phase shift of 67.5°, like I did for the TASCAM CD-200 review. This signal generates an overshoot of +0.69dB and so if the signal would be modified before being sent, it would show either a reduction of amplitude or we'd see some sort of saturation/increase noise/distorsion. So here we go, the below is a comparison between the WAV File directly processed by the PC, and when played by the Onkyo via the optical out:

View attachment 472905

They are the same, so no digital modification, ie perfect transport.


Conclusion

The Onkyo is nice looking and decent performing CD player, to me. I got to measure what I see from older very good CD Players, and you have a warranty!

As a transport, it shines. Only we would have loved to get more resistance to scratched CDs, but it's still as good or better than many old KSS Laser heads from Sony.

This is a good competitor of the Yamaha CD-S303. They have different but very close performances. If one is cheaper than the other with your preferred reseller, then you know what to do!

I hope you enjoyed this review and have lovely weekend!

Flo
I'm wondering if I can send it to someone to upgrade the dac and clock?

And if there will be significant difference
 
Hello everyone,

This is a review and measurements of the Onkyo C-7030 CD player and transport:

View attachment 472879

Yes, there's one more item than usual on the picture, and it's not included :)


Onkyo C-7030 - Presentation

This Onkyo has been available under this reference for quite sometime. This is a brand new item that I got.
You can see that it's a CD Player only (I like that), no USB input but a phones out (I love that too).

This CD Player has been discussed in many places, including here on ASR and I read that it was using either a Wolfson WM8718 or an AK4482. But when I measured the Onkyo, I did not find the filter performance reported by any of these two DACs. So there had to be another explanation, meaning I had to open it to check:

View attachment 472880

And yes, not an AK nor a Wolfson here but a more classic BurrBrown (TI) PCM1753 of which filter performances are:

View attachment 472881

And this is exactly what I measured (see later below in the measurements section)

The back of the Onkyo shows the necessary and essential:

View attachment 472884

No, you can't improve the sound replacing power cord, no you can't... ;)

The inside is neat:

View attachment 472885

Closer view at the board:

View attachment 472886

Besides taking 10sec to read the TOC of my test CD, I was pleasantly surprised by a very fast mech, much faster than the ones of the Denon DCD-900NE or the Yamaha CD-S303 to which you might compare this one.

I listened to it via an external headphones amplifier and with my usual Beyer DT-770Pro 32ohms, and this player made me happy.


Onkyo C-7030 - Measurements (RCA Out)

All measurements performed with an E1DA Cosmos ADCiso (grade 0), and the Cosmos Scaler (100kohms from unbalanced input) for analog outputs, and a Motu UltraLite Mk5 for digital.

I am now consistent with my specific measurements for CD Players, as I described them in the post “More than we hear”, and as I reported them for the Onkyo C-733 review. Over time, this will help comparing the devices I reviewed.

The Onkyo is shy by only 0.132dB of the standard 2Vrms output. The two channels are matched at 0.09dB, which is good. Phase is dead flat.

----

As usual, let's start with my standard 999.91Hz sine @0dBFS (without dither) from the Test CD (RCA out):

View attachment 472890

The THD+N is dominated by THD at this highest digital level. But the calculated SNR, in the presence of this highest level signal is a very good 97.2dB, very close to the max theoretical 98dB of PCM 16bits.

Let's try the same @-6dB:

View attachment 472891

The THD decreased by 6dB which means this DAC does not like playing too loud.

I think you saw a very silent CD Player totally free of power supply related spuriae:

View attachment 472892

It's good when it's that clean.

----

Next is the bandwidth:

View attachment 472893

We get -0.5dB at 20kHz, and we see some ripple, again in line with the published specs of TI (+-0.04dB).
A wider view will tell us more:

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We get -50dB attenuation with a stop-band at 24.1kHz, as per the specs. The increase of noise floor beyond 30kHz is due to the noise shaper of the converter.
This is not a high performer per today's standards.

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Let's have a look at the multitone test that a lot of you like very much:

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Right channel has a little more noise/distortion, but it clears the audio CD content anyways (roughly -100dB). So that is very good.

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Let's have a look at the Jitter:

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Red trace is from the digital output of the Onkyo and the blue one from analog RCA.
We get minimum lateral rays, of no concern. This is a very good trace.

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Started with the Teac VRDS-20 review, and on your request + support to get it done (more here), I'm adding now an "intersample-overs" test which intends to identify the behavior of the digital filtering and DAC when it come to process near clipping signals. Because of the oversampling, there might be interpolated data that go above 0dBFS and would saturate (clip) the DAC and therefore the output. And this effect shows through distorsion (THD+N measurement up to 96kHz):
Intersample-overs tests
Bandwidth of the THD+N measurements is 20Hz - 96kHz
5512.5 Hz sine,
Peak = +0.69dBFS
7350 Hz sine,
Peak = +1.25dBFS
11025 Hz sine,
Peak = +3.0dBFS
Teac VRDS-20-30.7dB-26.6dB-17.6dB
Yamaha CD-1-84.6dB-84.9dB-78.1dB
Denon DCD-900NE-34.2dB-27.1dB-19.1dB
Denon DCD-SA1-33.6dB-27.6dB-18.3dB
Onkyo C-733-88.3dB-40.4dB-21.2dB
Denon DCD-3560-30.2dB-24.7dB-17.4dB
Myryad Z210-70.6dB (noise dominated)-71.1dB (noise dominated)-29.4dB (H3 dominated)
Sony CDP-X333ES-30.5dB-24.8dB-16.3dB
BARCO-EMT 982-32.7dB-24.5dB-16.3dB
TASCAM CD-200-73.5dB-36.3dB-19.7dB
Sony CDP-597-30.4dB-24.7dB-16.5dB
Onkyo C-7030-76.6dB-37.6dB-21.6dB

The results of the Onkyo show that its interpolator has a good 1dB headroom to process too hot signals, which is good news.

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Let's continue with the good old 3DC measurement that Stereophile was often using as a proof of low noise DAC. It is from an undithered 997Hz sine at -90.31dBFS. With 16bits, the signal should appear (on a scope) as the 3DC levels of the smallest symmetrical sign magnitude digital signal:

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We can easily recognized the 3 primary levels, which should be a square, with a good symmetry. We have minimum noise to disturb the signal. The ringing os due to the reconstruction filter (symmetrical impulse response) and the Gibbs phenomenon (limited band to 22.05kHz).

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Other measurements (not shown):
  • IMD AES-17 DFD "Analog" (18kHz & 20kHz 1:1) : -83.9dB
  • IMD AES-17 DFD "Digital" (17'987Hz & 19'997Hz 1:1) : -78.9dB
  • IMD AES-17 MD (41Hz & 7993Hz 4:1): -81.1dB
  • IMD DIN (250Hz & 8kHz 4:1) : -76.7dB
  • IMD CCIF (19kHz & 20kHz 1:1) : -78.6dB
  • IMD SMPTE (60Hz & 7kHz 1:4) : -77.2dB
  • IMD TDFD Bass (41Hz & 89Hz 1:1) : -96.9dB
  • IMD TDFD (13'58Hz & 19841Hz 1:1) : -92.8dB
  • Dynamic Range : 97.9dB (without dither @-60dBFS)
  • Crosstalk: -121dBr (100hz), -120dBr (1kHz), -98.5dBr (10kHz)
  • Pitch Error : 19'997.26Hz (19'997Hz requested) ie 13ppm
  • Gapless playback : Yes
The IMD scores are good, even if 20dB lower than best in class.
The Dynamic range and crosstalk are very god. The clock is precise at 13ppm.

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Last and not least, I like to run a THD vs Frequency sweep at -12dBFS as it shows how the conversion has evolved over time. I am currently using the beta version of REW and I discovered that this sweep gives better and more reliable results than before:

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You can see that at this -12dBFS, the BurrBrown still suffers from harmonic distortion when compared to the best in class. Right channel suffers a little more (look at the legend).

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As I did with the Sony CDP-597, I'm introducing a new "max DAC resolution" measurement. It's performed from a 999.91Hz sine @-12dBFS with shape dither. I restrict the THD+N span to 20Hz - 6kHz not to account for the noise of the shape dither beyond 6kHz. That gives me a local max resolution, which should be higher than 17bits as a proof that the CD Player can actually resolve more than the Audio CD.

Here are the results of the Onkyo compared to others:
CD Player model or DACCalculated ENOB (999.91Hz sine @-12dBFS with shape dither, THD+N span = 20Hz - 6kHz)Percentage of max resolution achieved (higher is better)
SMSL PS-200 (from CD player)18.6bits100%
Denon DCD-900NE18.5bits99.4%
Onkyo C-73318bits96.7%
SMSL PL10017.9bits96.2%
Sony CDP-59717.5bits94%
Onkyo DX-735517.3bits93%
Denon DCD-356017.2bits92.5%
Onkyo C-703017.2bits92.5%
Yamaha CD-S30316.8bits90.3%
Accuphase DP-7016.6bits89.2%
Sony CDP-337ESD16.6bits89.2%
Teac VRDS-25x16.5bits88.7%
Marantz CD-7314.9bits80.1%

I showed the best of the two channels (left) but note that the right one achieves only 16.6bits on this test, again because of its higher distorsion, and that would put it on lower end of that table, actually below my threshold of 17bits. Too bad...


Onkyo C-7030 - Testing the drive

What would be good measurements if the drive would not properly read a slightly scratched CD, or one that was created at the limits of the norm? The below tests reply to these questions.

The Onkyo took a relatively long 10 seconds to read the TOC of my 40 tracks test CD. It operates in total silence.

Here are the results:
Test typeTechnical testResults
Variation of linear cutting velocityFrom 1.20m/s to 1.40m/sPass
Variation of track pitchFrom 1.5µm to 1.7µmPass
Combined variations of track pitch and velocityFrom 1.20m/s & 1.5µm to 1.40m/s & 1.7µmPass
HF detection (asymmetry pitch/flat ratio)Variation from 2% to 18%Pass
Dropouts resistanceFrom 0.05mm (0.038ms) to 4mm (3.080ms)Up to 1.25mm
Combined dropouts and smallest pitchFrom 1.5µm & 1mm to 1.5µm & 2.4mmUp to 1mm
Successive dropoutsFrom 2x0.1mm to 2x3mmUp to 1mm

The Onkyo was able to read without generating typical digital noise with dropouts up to 1.25mm. I could measure interpolation starting as early as with 0.75mm but I could not hear it. It had no issue with HF detection nor variation of trach pitch and velocity. These results are on the low end for a modern CD Player, but I guess this a payback for the speed of the drive...


Onkyo C-7030 - Measurements (Digital Optical Out)

I know several of you want to know, is it a good transport?

So let's go with the 999.91Hz @0dBFS:

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It is as I see it from the original WAV that I burnt of the CD, and that the Onkyo is playing here ;)

Same with my usual 3DC measurement:

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As we want to see it.

The final proof (to me) is when I reuse the intersamples over test at 5512.50Hz, with a phase shift of 67.5°, like I did for the TASCAM CD-200 review. This signal generates an overshoot of +0.69dB and so if the signal would be modified before being sent, it would show either a reduction of amplitude or we'd see some sort of saturation/increase noise/distorsion. So here we go, the below is a comparison between the WAV File directly processed by the PC, and when played by the Onkyo via the optical out:

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They are the same, so no digital modification, ie perfect transport.


Conclusion

The Onkyo is nice looking and decent performing CD player, to me. I got to measure what I see from older very good CD Players, and you have a warranty!

As a transport, it shines. Only we would have loved to get more resistance to scratched CDs, but it's still as good or better than many old KSS Laser heads from Sony.

This is a good competitor of the Yamaha CD-S303. They have different but very close performances. If one is cheaper than the other with your preferred reseller, then you know what to do!

I hope you enjoyed this review and have lovely weekend!

Flo
Some claims replacing the master clock and some capacitors will enhance the sound significantly

What do you think?
 
I just noticed this thread, figure i may as well add my 2cents worth. I've owned this now for about 5 to 6 years. Got it on sale from Amazon for $100 i think. Anyhow
This player is absolute shite unless used for transport only. Don't get me wrong, it functions just fine, no issues in playing, reading etc a disc. Issue is, it just sounds like shite. If using as a stand-alone player, the sound produced from the internal dac is so painful to listen to even for a minute. It's so bad I can't sell this to anyone with a clear conscious or even give it away to a friend or family member.
OP is spot on in his evaluation of the unit. I would just advise anyone who is even thinking about picking one of these up, even second hand, don't do it, honestly, it's the worst i've ever owned.
If you only need a transport, this would be the only reason to even consider it in my opinion.
 
I just noticed this thread, figure i may as well add my 2cents worth. I've owned this now for about 5 to 6 years. Got it on sale from Amazon for $100 i think. Anyhow
This player is absolute shite unless used for transport only. Don't get me wrong, it functions just fine, no issues in playing, reading etc a disc. Issue is, it just sounds like shite. If using as a stand-alone player, the sound produced from the internal dac is so painful to listen to even for a minute. It's so bad I can't sell this to anyone with a clear conscious or even give it away to a friend or family member.
OP is spot on in his evaluation of the unit. I would just advise anyone who is even thinking about picking one of these up, even second hand, don't do it, honestly, it's the worst i've ever owned.
If you only need a transport, this would be the only reason to even consider it in my opinion.
That certainly hasn't been my experience. For the money, it's been an admirable performer, both as a player and as a transport.
 
That certainly hasn't been my experience. For the money, it's been an admirable performer, both as a player and as a transport.
Glad to hear it meets your expectations. I've read and spoken with others who seem to be quite happy with it.. I recall reading a few years back, that the original dac chip used when first released was changed in later runs for whatever reason. Could this be the reason for my dislike of the unit? Possibly, but wouldn't swear by it. It's just too harsh sounding for me. I honestly wouldn't mind sending this in for a review, testing. Would be nice to know exactly why i'm hearing what i'm hearing with this. Either way, it's not complete lost cause, as i said, it's a great transport.
 
Some claims replacing the master clock and some capacitors will enhance the sound significantly

What do you think?
The clock is very precise, more than we need for audio.

With a change of capacitors (which ones?), what do people expect?

I think they are false claims, especially about sound being enhanced significantly.

The limitation of this CD are related to a bit of distortion which is impossible to hear, being of harmonic nature and so low.
 
My experience with the last version of the C-7030 (M3 version, built May 2025). I own this and the Rotel cd11 Tribute. Two completely different worlds. The Onkyo is well built, discs run really silently, the transformer hum is minimal, it's very fast when skipping and seaching, quite slow in reading the Toc (BAD). No skipping problems at all, it reads damaged discs flawlessly (even a disc with many huge alluminium holes on it!) Mechanically is very good and quite robust. The sound is very detailed and revealing, and the frequency spectrum remains still quite flat, perhaps a bit thin with a few discs. It plays very well brickwalled cds (good) as there's much air in the music. The Rotel is built very well too, it's a bit slow in reading the TOC, navigation is ok, BUT the disc rotation is very hearable even when the music is on during quite passages (BAD!), the transformer hum is noticeable (BAD too!). Incredibly, after years, It still has a bug (even after the latest update), that makes track 1 badly distort every now and then. Since its launch (together with the CD14) it always had at least one bug, every software update (very difficult to do) solved one, but introduced another. When that distortion bug happens, you have to stop and press play again to make it work properly (BAD) Soundwise it's wonderful (if you like a natural/mellow sound), very relaxing, but it loses some detail IMHO. Not so good with brickwalled cds, but overall the sound is superb. (good) So, for me, there is no clear winner. I recently swapped them, so the Onkyo is now on my main system while the Rotel is now in the secondary one.
 
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hi
may i know about tray mechanism ?
it's not a philips , you can find inside marantz and denon cd player
maybe it's a sony tray
 
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Not identical, but damn close.

Onkyo C-7030
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Pioneer PD-10AE

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Good detective work! I wonder what mfr supplied the original design that these two clearly shared. Also wonder if Pioneer made an upgraded model that added the missing main PCB parts and auxillary boards .... I have a C-7070 (in storage at the moment), so naturally, I'm curious what other products guts he shares ... :)
And "brickwalled CDs"; what the heck are those?:confused:
 
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