Official policy on use of AI

[TurtlePaul]

Yes, I hate when somebody posts "ChatGPT said..." and that is their entire post. We are not your fact checker. And most of what ChatGPT says is BS.

Form an opinion, have an opinion, discuss an opinion. But if you don't have an opinion and are just relying on ChatGPT, then you don't deserve to post.

 

[masterhw]

I’ve found it helpful for aiding conceptual understanding. ChatGPT helped me understand the difference between IIR and FIR filters, the design implications they come with, and some insight into DSP architectures.

This helpfulness breaks down if you don’t know exactly what to ask it, ask it anything too specific (more likely to hallucinate), and especially if you’re using its answers to present to other users as an authority. I can’t think of many contexts where it would be meaningfully contributive to share its output on the forum.

 

[Cogito]

Never knew AI content was an issue in these forums. Beep Boop

 

[thegeton]

5. Personal advice: you need to know as much about the topic as the AI. Otherwise, you won't know if it is telling you the truth or not!

YES!!!

This has long been a best practice in science and engineering when applied to any type of tool: software applications, test gear, etc. "Garbage in = garbage out."

 

[Mnyb]

This a forum for discussion and learning between humans. Its an insult to fellow humans to post walls of AI text ! Write your own garbage please ( like i just did )

 

[IngMishael]

We have had recent issues come about regarding use of AI in member posts. I personally think this technology can be useful to us. And at any rate, hate having to police members left and right on what they post. That said, here are my thoughts:

1. If you are going to use AI, make it absolutely clear up front before copying what it said.

2. Show the prompt you used and the engine (ChatGPT, etc.). Both of these can be useful to understand how the answer came about.

3. Please, please be mindful that you are dealing with combination of AI technology+the company behind it, wanting you as a customer for life to monetize. The latter will attempt strongly to give answers compatible with what you are asking so you don't go away unhappy. In other words, AI on controversial topics, is likely to give you the answer you want to hear than an unbiased statement.

4. AI cannot be your sole post and certainly not the thread starter. You can use it as part of your post but not the entirety of it. Such threads will likely get reported and deleted by us.

5. Personal advice: you need to know as much about the topic as the AI. Otherwise, you won't know if it is telling you the truth or not!

6. The Master AI thread is excluded from such rules.

7. I am in arguments on another thread and AI has been elevated as authoritative source! Often it is the only counter answer given. We won't be going there here.

I think that is it for now.

Hear hear

 

[SoySalsaPicante]

To be fair, it is useful for performing math that I don't want to deal with. For example, telling ChatGPT that I'm placing my subwoofer 38.5" from the back wall and asking it to tell me what frequency the SBIR dip will be is a handy dandy thing.

 

[masterhw]

To be fair, it is useful for performing math that I don't want to deal with. For example, telling ChatGPT that I'm placing my subwoofer 38.5" from the back wall and asking it to tell me what frequency the SBIR dip will be is a handy dandy thing.

I would not rely on a language model for math, just because its computer doesn’t mean it can calculate. Much more useful if you prompt it how to calculate such a thing, then plug it into a calculator yourself. Wolfram Alpha is a proper math engine.

 

[NTTY]

Ask your favorite AI about this one:

 

[SoySalsaPicante]

I would not rely on a language model for math, just because its computer doesn’t mean it can calculate. Much more useful if you prompt it how to calculate such a thing, then plug it into a calculator yourself. Wolfram Alpha is a proper math engine.

My highest level of education is an AOS in Culinary Arts from the CIA. I don't think my math is where it needs to be for some of these calculations.

 

[DVinylfan]

This is a welcome intervention, thanks Amir. Specifically we are talking here about the use of large language model generative AI; it's striking how quickly "AI" per se has become the shorthand for that.
And yeah, pasting reams of output from an AI bot and standing next to it like you think it's an authoritative source tends towards polluting threads to the extent they are unreadable, so please don't.

 

[Robbo99999]

I would not rely on a language model for math, just because its computer doesn’t mean it can calculate. Much more useful if you prompt it how to calculate such a thing, then plug it into a calculator yourself. Wolfram Alpha is a proper math engine.

It doesn't use the "language model skills" for the direct calculation. Instead it tries to understand the math that should be applied and uses an actual "calculator" to run the math - the problems arise when it doesn't analyse the problem effectively and ends up doing stuff like flipping the sign (subtracting something rather than addition if it hasn't really understood the real world application). That's one example, but it can also get a bit confused as the conversation develops and sometimes you have to check it's using the right figures.

 

[Robbo99999]

I'm a bit surprised that there's quite a bit of hate for AI, I just find it useful for all sorts of stuff. But it's not a good way to choose a speaker or headphone, don't ask AI for speaker or headphone purchase advice - we know more about that.

I think it's good that Amir has put up some usage rules, I agree with that.

 

[masterhw]

I'm a bit surprised that there's quite a bit of hate for AI, I just find it useful for all sorts of stuff. But it's not a good way to choose a speaker or headphone, don't ask AI for speaker or headphone purchase advice - we know more about that.

I think it's good that Amir has put up some usage rules, I agree with that.

I think it’s victim to being used the most by people that understand it (and the content of its answers) the least, making it a pest and a crutch in fields where subject matter expertise is prized.

 

[Cbdb2]

If it was up to me I would ban AI posts completely, and everywhere. What happened to research, critical thinking and writing, and will they completely disappear soon? The next level of dummying down is upon us. Its going to be so easy to control people.

 

[HalSF]

The word "plagiarism" hasn't appeared in this thread yet so I'm using it.

The immorality of the theft, copyright violation, unauthorized usage, and blatant appropriation of human words and thoughts and visual and sonic creations of artists that provides the mindless, poorly mediated content regurgitated by consumer AI is a crime. AI is a Mafia heist.

These new rules are better than nothing, and provide minimal standards to help limit the information smog of derp AI copy/paste posts here. But anybody blithely posting ChatGPT slop and the like is an accessory to an attack on intellectual integrity.

 

[Dougey_Jones]

I get an awful lot of value out of ChatGPT, but I do that by interrogating it, essentially.

 

[Hipocrates]

I use LLMs to improve my grammar in English (self-taught as a second language, it helps me a lot)

 

[welwynnick]

I've seen quite a bit of AI quoting recently, and I don't think it adds to Audio Science.
It's like parroting Wikipedia.
If you have to resort to wiki or AI to make your point, then you don't know what you're talking about, and should keep quiet.

 

[Grimoire]

"If the app is free, you are the product"

And if it isn't free, it's likely that you are paying to be the product.