Objective $5000 Full Range Speaker Recommendation

[Martin]

Two simple questions:

1. What is the best objectively measuring full range speaker, new or used, I could get for $5000 a pair?
2. Would they best a pair of Von Schweikert VR-5 Anniversaries? (See subjective and objective review here.)

Thanks,
Martin

 

[abdo123]

Neumann KH 310 are a great candidate.

 

[dfuller]

Seconding the KH310. Love mine. That said buy a pair used for like 3200 and use the rest for subs.

 

[Ron Texas]

Revel F208.

 

[oursmagenta]

KEF R11 if WAF is at play, F208 otherwise.

This statement about WAF is coming from a very meaningful statistical pool of 1 sample (mine).

 

[Alfa1]

Revel F208 or Kef R11 are good obvious choices. A less common choice, but with great measurements and high praise from James Larson at Audioholics, and a very cool modern industrial design, is the Definitive Technology Demand D15 (or D17 assuming it measures as well or better). All of these appear to measure better than the VR-5.

 

[Streamc]

Revel F208 or Kef R11 are good obvious choices. A less common choice, but with great measurements and high praise from James Larson at Audioholics, and a very cool modern industrial design, is the Definitive Technology Demand D15 (or D17 assuming it measures as well or better). All of these appear to measure better than the VR-5. View attachment 138116

Very cool but where is sub 100Hz?

 

[daftcombo]

Genelec 8350?

 

[Alfa1]

Very cool but where is sub 100Hz?

From the same review:

Looks flat to about 40HZ

 

[Ericglo]

You might look at Dennis's Philharmonic BMR towers or something from Selah.

https://www.philharmonicaudio.com
http://www.selahaudio.com/designs

 

[Ultrasonic]

What is your definition of 'full range'? My main thought whenever I hear this is to factor in a subwoofer (or two)...

 

[Jim Matthews]

Infinity IL60 (with verification of internal amp first)

 

[Martin]

What is your definition of 'full range'? My main thought whenever I hear this is to factor in a subwoofer (or two)...

My definition is 20Hz-20kHz in-room without a subwoofer.

 

[MarkS]

My definition is 20Hz-20kHz in-room without a subwoofer.

Since you didn't specify a +/- dB, every speaker ever made qualifies.

 

[Martin]

Since you didn't specify a +/- dB, every speaker ever made qualifies.

Ideally +/-3dB.

The published specs of my VR-4 Gen III HSE speakers:
Frequency Response: 20-30 kHz, +/- 2 dB, 16 Hz-40 kHz –6 dB, (+/- 1dB at midband).

While I know those specs are likely exaggerated I can tell you they have no problem hitting low bass with authority.

Published specs for the VR-5 Anniversaries:
Frequency Response: 20Hz-70 kHz, +/- 4 dB (30Hz-30 kHz +/- 2 dB)

 

[abdo123]

Ideally +/-3dB

none of the speakers recommended in this thread satisfy this condition, in fact even dedicated subwoofers rarely meet this condition.

maybe the Dutch and Dutch 8C @ 12000$ a pair?

 

[Ultrasonic]

My definition is 20Hz-20kHz in-room without a subwoofer.

I think you'll struggle to find any speakers within your budget that meet this. I don't think anything mentioned so far in this thread does.

 

[Ron Texas]

Ideally +/-3dB.

The published specs of my VR-4 Gen III HSE speakers:
Frequency Response: 20-30 kHz, +/- 2 dB, 16 Hz-40 kHz –6 dB, (+/- 1dB at midband).

While I know those specs are likely exaggerated I can tell you they have no problem hitting low bass with authority.

Published specs for the VR-5 Anniversaries:
Frequency Response: 20Hz-70 kHz, +/- 4 dB (30Hz-30 kHz +/- 2 dB)

Maybe you shouldn't do anything and spend the money on something else.

 

[Dueprocess]

Maybe the 10inch, ported JTRs (RM)? They are narrow directivity, though -- not sure what your preference is. There is a review for the 12inch ported model on avnirvana, and FR / directivity, etc. looks good.

 

[SKBubba]

Forte IV? (Ducking out now.)