Nordost Tyr 2 Review (USB Cable)

[Garrincha]

I couldn't agree more. getting the word out to counter the nonsense that some hifi manufacturers claim is important. the problem is that there is so much sarcasm in many of these comments (not yours) directed at audiophiles that the impression given is not positive at all. We all love music and are trying to find the best way to listen to it within our means.

I also think that the lack of double blind tests is a weakness because they do add a strong argument in favour of the conclusion.

Agreed, but unfortunately convincing subjectivist audiophiles is like fightig against imaginary wind mills Don Quixote style. The come up with every conceivable (pseudo) argument playing the down the relevance of measurements and blind tests and in the end its just their subjective feeling and impression that matters. There can not be made no argument against it and this way they keep buying tube amps and ridiculously expensive cables and power cleaners, will burn in and stick to R2R dacs etc. I am not optimistic that this will change any time soon.

But definitely, who really wants to know can take a lot from the measurements of ASR and will be educated and more imune against obscure claims.

 

[Mihalis]

Agreed, but unfortunately convincing subjectivist audiophiles is like fightig against imaginary wind mills Don Quixote style. The come up with every conceivable (pseudo) argument playing the down the relevance of measurements and blind tests and in the end its just their subjective feeling and impression that matters. There can not be made no argument against it and this way they keep buying tube amps and ridiculously expensive cables and power cleaners, will burn in and stick to R2R dacs etc. I am not optimistic that this will change any time soon.

But definitely, who really wants to know can take a lot from the measurements of ASR and will be educated and more imune against obscure claims.

They aren't imaginary windmills. it is a well (snake) oiled industry where manufacturers, dealers and reviewers are in cahoots taking advantage of powerful psychoacoustic games that our minds play. I have been an audiophile since 5 years old and I can assure you people do truly believe this stuff. and if you have sunk large amounts on speakers and amps why not resign to the safety of expensive cables.

I am right now listening to a six figure pair of speakers that is driven by a six figure pair of amps connected via a two figure pair of (short) speaker cables. Took me about a week to stop stressing about it!

The proceeds from the sale of the expensive cables that were replaced are going to the engineering department of my kid's school.

 

[welsh]

It's far worse than the claims made by the cosmetics industry, and I would never imagine my wife would buy a mascara for $200 bucks, that gives "500% more sexiness".

You forgot the universal cosmetic advertisement escape hatch. It should be UP TO 500% more sexiness.

 

[Sal1950]

You forgot the universal cosmetic advertisement escape hatch. It should be UP TO 500% more sexiness.

How about the hair regrowth market, both male and female. LOL

 

[SKBubba]

Lately I've been evaluating audio stuff using a "Tidal Month" metric.

In this instance, the cost of this cable would pay for almost 12 years worth of Tidal Months.

Even if this cable is magic and actually did something, 12 years of Tidal provides much better value to me.

 

[IIIRIC]

@amirm I am looking for a usb c to usb c cable for my audio setup. Have you tried the amazon basics usb c? I'm trying to figure out if it is up to spec.

 

[IIIRIC]

@amirm I am looking for a usb c to usb c cable for my audio setup. Have you tried the amazon basics usb c? I'm trying to figure out if it is up to spec.

I am currently using this Cable Creation USB C cable https://www.amazon.com/CableCreation-SuperSpeed-Charging-Compatible-MacBook/dp/B072M7GH29/ . It's inexpensive, sound much better to my ears than my other cheap usb cables, and I don't really know why.

 

[AudioSceptic]

@amirm I am looking for a usb c to usb c cable for my audio setup. Have you tried the amazon basics usb c? I'm trying to figure out if it is up to spec.

Also have a look at Anker's cables. Their stuff tends to be good but reasonably priced.

 

[IIIRIC]

Also have a look at Anker's cables. Their stuff tends to be good but reasonably priced.

I just picked up an Apple Thunderbolt 3 cable (0.8m) at opened-box pricing (about $25). I'm still assessing how it sounds in my setup.

 

[Omar Cumming]

I just picked up an Apple Thunderbolt 3 cable (0.8m) at opened-box pricing (about $25). I'm still assessing how it sounds in my setup.

If you're "assessing how it sounds in my setup" you have missed the whole point of this review and this 20 page thread.

Cheers

 

[AudioSceptic]

I just picked up an Apple Thunderbolt 3 cable (0.8m) at opened-box pricing (about $25). I'm still assessing how it sounds in my setup.

I'm trying to understand how it could have a "sound".

 

[amirm]

@amirm I am looking for a usb c to usb c cable for my audio setup. Have you tried the amazon basics usb c? I'm trying to figure out if it is up to spec.

I have not. I tried their micro-USB and it was horrible (as far as material not performance). Shame they didn't use the same design/manufacturer for both. I will look into getting the USB-C one.

 

[MaxBuck]

If you're "assessing how it sounds in my setup" you have missed the whole point of this review and this 20 page thread.

Not to mention the entire remainder of the ASR website.

 

[IIIRIC]

I'm trying to understand how it could have a "sound".

Well that's abstract.

 

[IIIRIC]

If you're "assessing how it sounds in my setup" you have missed the whole point of this review and this 20 page thread.

Cheers

I guess so. Darn!

 

[AudioSceptic]

Well that's abstract.

" existing in thought or as an idea but not having a physical or concrete existence:"

Yep!

 

[Kremmen]

As my dear departed grandmother used to say: "A fool and his money are soon parted!"

As long as there are enough fools out there to buy ridiculously overpriced products like this that fail to deliver on their creator's claims, we'll never be rid of them. Amen.

 

[tw99]

@Kremmen Great username BTW. RIP Kenny...

 

[Kremmen]

@Kremmen Great username BTW. RIP Kenny...

Hear hear! Kenny was a true legend. The man who put the Snot in Sid and let us know what a Cupid Stunt looked like. RIP indeed.

 

[nyxnyxnyx]

I think some people want to believe in something, no matter how hard or easy it is.
Some people in this thread basically expressed that only idiots would buy this but I know a handful of successful guys who are way more educated and sophisticated than me, they got good rationality in business sense and 'daily life common sense' YET they go fully wild with audio accessories and components. One of them is even an ex-electrical engineer of Toshiba, I refuse to think that that guy is somehow not aware of how cables and electricity work.