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Nordost Tyr 2 Review (USB Cable)

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  • 1. Waste of money (piggy bank panther)

    Votes: 499 96.7%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 4 0.8%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 3 0.6%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 10 1.9%

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Folks, no one is doing the type of testing that you see here. This has power that other attempts don't.
The fact that the manufacturers are not doing any testing reassures me that there are not other tests out there that might show a change. Intuitively, one does not expect digital cables to have any audible effect as long as they meet spec. But my intuition hasn't gotten me far.
 
How come Amir, the specific person that we have come to know and love here at this forum, finds himself disappointed when he can't find anything different despite trying different methods/angles to measure them?
Amir would have to answer you, myself and possibly others here seek products that offer sonic transparency and provide a high fidelity listening experience. If the $1400 cable did something positive or god forbid audible compared to a $6 cable, I'd be interested to isolate how it does that and experience the improvement. With unpaid shills claiming these huge benefits that are so easily heard, it is disappointing in a way to find there is no truth to it at all in most cases... not that I ever thought there was in relation to USB cables, but I'm sure you catch my drift.


JSmith
 
Why? Could this mean that at some level, despite all your engineering expertise, you desire and seek the outcome that different (properly functioning) USB cables have different intrinsic sonic qualities?
In a way, it's kinda pointless measuring digital devices using analogue testing equipment. Simply looking at the resulting 1 and 0 on the bitstream and error rate etc, will tell you if the cables have any inherent improvement. The same 1 and 0 fed into a DAC will always produce the same output.
 
Folks, no one is doing the type of testing that you see here. This has power that other attempts don't.
This is not free folks. Do what you can to inform and spread the word. A small contribution from a large number of people is great. We just need a large number of people! Amir has been generous and obviously is very shy about asking for contributions. Imagine PBS taking over every two weeks for a member drive!
 
I really enjoy these cable reviews by Amir. They always bring a good laugh. Thanks again for dispelling the myth of USB cables. Nordost, one of my favorite cable companies along with Audioquest. LOL. I was ounce considering buying a Wireworld Starlight USB cable, which garnered all kinds of accolades from some pro audio reviewers. Amir also reviewed one of those here.
 
The only way to properly test the sonic quality of any USB cable is to turn it into an audio cable. Cut off the connectors and wire it up to some XLR connectors and see how it performs as far as noise immunity, frequency response, and cable specs such as LCR. Then, and only then, will we have the answer that so many seek.
 
I guess someone with 1400 dollars to burn on a cable isn't hurting for loss of 1400. Seeing items like this makes my stomach churn.
 
I feel sorry for the member who sent it in, assuming they paid anything more that $20. What a tough lesson to learn. Ouch!

Should start a go-fund-me?
 
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This highlights a widespread underlying issue with high-end gear: the connectors are almost always at the back, which means the expensive cables are rarely visible. Until this gets fixed there is little point in spending so much on cables.
;)
 
This highlights a widespread underlying issue with high-end gear: the connectors are almost always at the back, which means the expensive cables are rarely visible. Until this gets fixed there is little point in spending so much on cables.
;)
Put up a mirror in the back. Then you can see the cables and get enhanced sound depth all at the same time. :p
 
Why haven’t we heard the same excuses that we hear when electronics dont live up to the hype?

A. It must have been defective
B. ASR tests to a standard that doesn’t make sense, the manufacturer knows better
C. A single test doesn’t prove anything
D. ASR didn’t check with the manufacturer to explain the performance

Am I missing any other excuses?
 
If the Nordost cable is as stiff and unflexible as Amir describes, there is risk of damage to USB ports. It's bad enough the damage caused to RCA jacks by 'locking' RCA plugs and locking bananas used by foolish audiophiles. Now we have super stiff USB cables.
 
If the Nordost cable is as stiff and unflexible as Amir describes, there is risk of damage to USB ports. It's bad enough the damage caused to RCA jacks by 'locking' RCA plugs and locking bananas used by foolish audiophiles. Now we have super stiff USB cables.

Stiff cables are not good for the ports on your cell phone either
 
Why haven’t we heard the same excuses that we hear when electronics dont live up to the hype?

A. It must have been defective
B. ASR tests to a standard that doesn’t make sense, the manufacturer knows better
C. A single test doesn’t prove anything
D. ASR didn’t check with the manufacturer to explain the performance

Am I missing any other excuses?

It's mostly an issue of how cables fail. In normal environments, 99.95% of cable failures result in a broken or intermittent connection. Such a fault can't explain a $1400 cable behaving the same as a $1 cable. The only real exception to this would be if the cable were crushed, which is obvious upon visual inspection.

In exotic environments, I've seen cables that failed in other ways that *could* make them behave in bizarre ways, usually as the result of electrical abuse. In almost all cases, this shows up in a TDR test.


For electronics, it's a different issue, and it is a valid concern given the way this site works. Most gear is sent in by members, so in a sense, it's exact condition is unknown. Who knows what it's been through. I've seen my fair share of amplifiers that "sound fine" but are very screwed up inside. Worse still, someone with an agenda (perhaps an engineer from a competing company) could very easily modify a commercial amplifier (to worsen its performance) and send it in for testing.

As a general rule, if it meets specs, I'm not worried, but if it does not meet published specifications, that is (in my book) reason for further investigation.
 
The only way to properly test the sonic quality of any USB cable is to turn it into an audio cable. Cut off the connectors and wire it up to some XLR connectors and see how it performs as far as noise immunity, frequency response, and cable specs such as LCR. Then, and only then, will we have the answer that so many seek.

I like the looks of this made with Canare cable USB A B cable.

It has been tested with XLR ends.

Tell your friends that you paid $1,400 and they will be jealous.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353469207480

Thanks DT
 
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