Nordost SuperFlatLine Speaker Cable Review

[pseudoid]

Also, the cable needs exotic cable lifts placed a foot apart under the cable, and then you need little platforms to set the lifts upon to shield the lifts and the cable they support form destructive static charges lurking in that carpet. Cable lift ESD protectors! We could start a whole new audiophile-grade product line!

Now that the business agenda is in place; next agenda item would haf to be to come up with an appropriately clever - yet meaningless - name.
Poly-synthetic Musical Aperture

 

[egellings]

Now that the business agenda is in place; next agenda item would haf to be to come up with an appropriately clever - yet meaningless - name.
Poly-synthetic Musical Aperture

It should have the word 'foundation' included in it.

 

[board]

I wish that one day you could measure those Nordöst Valhalla power cords and their Odin speaker cables, which are their most expensive ones.
I don't expect there to be any difference to the standard ones, but it would be nice to have it documented.

 

[egellings]

I wish that one day you could measure those Nordöst Valhalla power cords and their Odin speaker cables, which are their most expensive ones.
I don't expect there to be any difference to the standard ones, but it would be nice to have it documented.

There's no real need to document the obvious, such as the efficacy of homeopathy, the air guitar of medicine, or what the cables do in an audio setup beyond their readily understood & measured R, L & C contributions.

 

[pseudoid]

There's no real need to document the obvious, such as the efficacy of homeopathy, the air guitar of medicine, or what the cables do in an audio setup beyond their readily understood & measured R, L & C contributions.

What did you have in mind?
The obvious virtues (e.g. metal-type, awg, etc.) or those mystical qualities of cables that simple-folk like us just can't comprehend or appreciate??

 

[egellings]

What I have in mind is that if R, L and C for two cables are the same, it makes no electrical difference which metal is used in the cables, keeping in mind that silver and gold, as examples, have different conductivities, so a smaller cross sectional silver cable can have the same current carrying ability as a slightly larger cross sectional area gold one would have. In the case of a small signal interconnect cable, these differences would be too tiny to worry about. Of course, what our ears pick up gets processed by the brain, into which we may have installed belief filters that alter our perception of the sound quality. If one of those beliefs is that cable A sounds better than cable B, then cable A will seem to sound better. If there are no measurable differences over the audio range of two cables in a particular setup, these self-installed belief filters are the only thing could alter the perception of the sound quality.

 

[JSmith]

colored power cables

RGBY;

https://www.cables.com/3-ft-5-15p-to-c13-pc-to-ac-outlet-10-amp-power-cord-blue.html

JSmith

 

[board]

There's no real need to document the obvious, such as the efficacy of homeopathy, the air guitar of medicine, or what the cables do in an audio setup beyond their readily understood & measured R, L & C contributions.

And that was essentially my point - to show that a horrendously expensive speaker cable, interconnect or power cord measures exactly the same as standard cables and cords.
Although it might seem obvious to you, I'm hoping that it would be enlightening to some.

 

[egellings]

And that was essentially my point - to show that a horrendously expensive speaker cable, interconnect or power cord measures exactly the same as standard cables and cords.
Although it might seem obvious to you, I'm hoping that it would be enlightening to some.

You did a good job of that! A lot of people don't have an EE background, and so could get taken in by preposterous claims about all things audio, especially audio accessories such as cables.

 

[board]

You did a good job of that!

???
I was trying to say that I was hoping that Amir (or someone else) could show the measurements. Although I don't expect there to be any difference, or at least not audible improvement, as of now it is really only speculation that those cables and cords in question are no different than standard ones, since they haven't been measured.

 

[egellings]

???
I was trying to say that I was hoping that Amir (or someone else) could show the measurements. Although I don't expect there to be any difference, or at least not audible improvement, as of now it is really only speculation that those cables and cords in question are no different than standard ones, since they haven't been measured.

My guess is that Amir might not want to waste time showing the obvious; in the case of cables, if R, L & C are similar among them they will have the same effect, if any, on sound quality. I don't keep dropping objects to reassure myself that gravity is still working. No point in it.

 

[Audiofire]

It's a flogged horse that has long been dead so to speak - search the forum for cable measurements.

 

[egellings]

It's a flogged horse that has long been dead so to speak - search the forum for cable measurements.

Yes! I can't sneak one past gravity, either. Darn dropped thing falls every time, dagnabbit! Maybe I should just stop testing it.

 

[Audiofire]

I was trying to say that I was hoping that Amir (or someone else) could show the measurements. Although I don't expect there to be any difference, or at least not audible improvement, as of now it is really only speculation that those cables and cords in question are no different than standard ones, since they haven't been measured.

Time and frequency domains are shown (on page 1), those are the real measurements. Those show the LCR parameters that are proportional. It's all there in the graphs, except the gravity test.

 

[board]

Time and frequency domains are shown (on page 1), those are the real measurements. Those show the LCR parameters that are proportional. It's all there in the graphs, except the gravity test.

Did you read my original message?

 

[board]

My guess is that Amir might not want to waste time showing the obvious; in the case of cables, if R, L & C are similar among them they will have the same effect, if any, on sound quality. I don't keep dropping objects to reassure myself that gravity is still working. No point in it.

I wasn't talking about what you, egellings, would like to see, but what certain other people would probably like to see.
Like I said, I don't expect the the measurements to show any (noticeable) difference, but I still think it could be useful to show exactly that.

 

[Audiofire]

Did you read my original message?

Yes, please don't flog dead horses

 

[board]

Yes, please don't flog dead horses

I was just asking a question.

 

[rank]

11 pages for this big nothing = phuuuu!

 

[Keith_W]

Company provides a set of "specifications" which are hardly useful:
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What is "velocity of propagation"? Why is it 91% and not 100%? And how would you measure this?