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None of it matters anymore. None of it.
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Some clues to identify AI music. Summary via screenshots. #1 regarding the yellowish color of AI created album covers for example may be true. I can agree with that.
The points are motivated in the video, some examples are mentioned:
The points are motivated in the video, some examples are mentioned:
Curvature
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It doesn't matter that it can't replace human musicians and live performance. It's a tool. We should appreciate the near-human capabilities that it does offer. That doesn't mean we need to enjoy the no-effort AI junk generated by lazy people. Creative and interesting use of the tool is its own form of human skill and at this point we have few worthwhile examples of it.If you like bluegrass, watch Bela Fleck and friends video "Wheels Up" on Tidal:
Watch Wheels Up (feat. Sierra Hull & Molly Tuttle) [Live at The Farmette in Lyons, Colorado, July 21, 2021] on TIDAL
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Can AI ever generate that?
At some point that line of averageness and mediocrity that currently distinguishes AI compositions, guided by humans, and the now "old school" human ones will become even more gray and indistinct.
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That'll be easy to update, especially as people point it out
Robin L
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Back during the dawn of digital a friend loaned me his Casio FZ-1 synth, one of the first sampling synths:
www.vintagesynth.com
Screwing around with the controls I managed to land on settings that produced the same music—pitches, rhythms, sonority, the whole ball of wax—as a commercial CD I incorporated into late-night new-age broadcasts. This would be around 1990-ish.
Casio FZ-1 | Vintage Synth Explorer
The Casio FZ-1 is an impressive sampler/synthesizer keyboard from 1987. Its offerings at the time were very professional features. In an 8-voice polyphonic full 61-note keyboard synthesizer you get a 16-bit digital sampler with variable 9kHz to 36kHz sampling rates. 1MB of memory expandable to...
Screwing around with the controls I managed to land on settings that produced the same music—pitches, rhythms, sonority, the whole ball of wax—as a commercial CD I incorporated into late-night new-age broadcasts. This would be around 1990-ish.
That's right. AI learns and adapts.
You're making a weird category error.
What you have 'demonstrated' not to matter anymore has nothing to do with hi-fi home audio. It's about tools used to compose and generate music, not reproduce the audio at home.
Electronic music -- as in, generated directly as electical impluses (not as acoustic waves recorded from air and transduced to electricity) -- or even, music wholly generated by a machine (e.g., sequencers) -- has been around for decades. It's not driven anyone to abandon the pursuit of high quality audio reproduction at home.
Bizarre take.
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valerianf
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Well, for human produced music an experienced listener will want to be as close as possible to the concert/music hall experience that he may have had.
Regarding AI music, who cares: there is no live music referencials.
Earbuds will be perfect.
Music listening quality is going to be something of the past.
Regarding AI music, who cares: there is no live music referencials.
Earbuds will be perfect.
Music listening quality is going to be something of the past.
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For my part, if I can't go watch a musician competently perform their work live, I lose interest in them as artists pretty fast.
So I have zero interest in AI generated music.
There will always be a market for those who are able to perform and write music with their human talents.
What may happen, similar to other industries, is the mediocre talents will get pushed out of profitability. The danger there is many great artists started in mediocrity and grew out of it, and new generations mat have less opportunity to do so.
So I have zero interest in AI generated music.
There will always be a market for those who are able to perform and write music with their human talents.
What may happen, similar to other industries, is the mediocre talents will get pushed out of profitability. The danger there is many great artists started in mediocrity and grew out of it, and new generations mat have less opportunity to do so.
Why would you identify AI music at all. I rather worry about a few million AI agents that will flood the labour market for almost zero cost with all consequences.
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Human produced music sold commercially most often takes place in smallish rooms/studios and very often the 'experience' was one of multiple recording/tracking sessions edited together, rather than a single 'live' performance.
This makes no sense.
The reference for home/personal audio reproduction isn't 'live music', the reference is the audio recording itself.
To the extent that is conveyed without added distortion by your system, it's 'high fidelity'.
Again, this conflates (at least) two different things.
The recording itself can be of poor quality , e.g. early Velvet Underground, but the presentation of that audio recording by your gear at home can either be faithful to it, or not.
tineared
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This is surprisingly listenable, mostly because there was no singing
I wonder if Sam Bush is a figment of some pc's imagination...
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Honestly I don’t understand your point. Music can be made without people, AI can accurately mimic instrumental waveforms, so the quality of the equipment reproducing and transducing that waveform for you doesn’t matter? Could you clarify what your complaint is?
I’m glad you like your $400 headphones.
( I guess this is an old post, but it just popped up for me. Sorry if I’m making a point others already made).
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Robin L
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Did you read "Stranger in a Strange Land"? One of the Martian concepts in the novel is that the physical body could "discorporate" while the mental and spiritual bodies continue to grow and function. Beethoven's like that, reaching a point where he could no longer play the piano in public as he became stone deaf, no longer alive in the performing arts where he once excelled. It is as if after op. 100, all his compositions are effectively posthumous.
Every performance of a Colon Nancarrow work would be/is a definitive performance of that work. There are the piano rolls and there are the pianos set up for those rolls and there are no other options. Just press "play".
Robin L
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I'm afraid this might insert brainworms via my IEMs.
Meanwhile, in so-called consensus reality:
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