None of it matters anymore. None of it.

[mhardy6647]

There was, of course, no noise or distortions unless I added it.

Those little 2" PC speaker drivers prolly did that for you, back in the day.
Unless you had that Commodore hooked to a Quad ESL-57 or suchlike.

 

[xanalog]

That's a negative, @Timcognito. I've not noticed.

I agree and that makes double negatives!
I must be more dyslexic than @Timcognito.

 

[mhardy6647]

I agree and that makes double negatives!
I must be more dyslexic than @Timcognito.

Winner of today's Epimenides award!

 

[Sal1950]

Winner of today's Epimenides award!

What kind of award?
Did he play with The Band?

 

[mhardy6647]

Epimenides the Cretan was reputed to have said all Cretans are liars. OK, it's not the exactly the same as a double negative, but it is paradoxical.
St. Paul even mentions him in one of his Epistles.

Even one of their own men, a prophet from Crete, has said about them, “The people of Crete are all liars, cruel animals, and lazy gluttons.” - Titus 1:12 (NLT)

 

[Timcognito]

That's a negative, @Timcognito. I've not noticed.

Thanks for the kindness, but as the say, "it is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer". I am an unabashed A1 consumer as most of the BBQ sauces are to sweet for my savory palette.

 

[xanalog]

@Timcognito,
I meant no disrespect when I said:

I must be more dyslexic than @Timcognito.

I had to look-up/confirm that dyslexia also applies to difficulties with writing, as well as w/reading.
I have the former!
My byline has always been "Consider all typographical, grammatical and syntactical errors as unintentional."

 

[Timcognito]

@Timcognito,
I meant no disrespect when I said:

I had to look-up/confirm that dyslexia also applies to difficulties with writing, as well as w/reading.
I have the former!
My byline has always been "Consider all typographical, grammatical and syntactical errors as unintentional."

I didn't give it a second though. My skin is thick and also have the curse of color blindness that has its own calamities, like never being able to read a resistor. I get so many likes from a A Call For Humor so I expect a lot ribbing. I will say I force myself not to use grammar correcting software so to try and improve. I bring it up more here than anybody else which speaks highly of the decorum and caliber of the members here. Those little connecting words are in my blind spot but verbally I do just fine. What you said was okay and I really hope that your issues are not as bad as mine.

 

[TankTop]

It is actually the opposite. Synthesizes music is free of ambient noise or distortion captured by a microphone. As such, its fidelity can be much higher than naturally recorded music, increasing demands to reproduce it more accurately.

I wonder if anyone is taking older masters that were recorded poorly and using AI to remaster them correctly?

 

[respice finem]

I wonder if anyone is taking older masters that were recorded poorly and using AI to remaster them correctly?

Or "rebuild" instead of just remastering. But, will it still be "the real thing" then?

 

[DanielT]

The 464 comments:

.. on the AI generated music in the video below must be AI generated, or what do you think? A little scary if that's not the case.

AI about the AI generated music on that YouTube channel:

 

[Hear Here]

It is actually the opposite. Synthesizes music is free of ambient noise or distortion captured by a microphone. As such, its fidelity can be much higher than naturally recorded music, increasing demands to reproduce it more accurately.

So perhaps we should pay off the musicians in all orchestras, pension off the conductors, leave the rock and pop artists to get a "proper job" or go on the dole? Heaven forbid!

Whio cares if there's a bit of ambient noise or distortion if that's what was present at the original performamce. It's the music that matters isn't it - warts and all?

 

[Sal1950]

I'd feel AI created music should be banned from air-play, streaming, whatever.
What can AI do that real musicians cant except put them out of work and stifle human creation?
In what way will we be shortchanged, plenty of new human created music will still be created by the billions.
It's not music, its noise coming out of a machine. For that I've loved the sound of my Harley-Davidsons and nitro burning drag racing V-8 engines for decades.

 

[stalepie2]

The 464 comments:
View attachment 484119
.. on the AI generated music in the video below must be AI generated, or what do you think? A little scary if that's not the case.

AI about the AI generated music on that YouTube channel:
View attachment 484118

I might be fooled if I wasn't clued into thinking it was AI, but it sounds false for multiple reasons: 1, the recording sound quality (or whatever) is just too good sounding for the time (definitely "remastered"!), 2. The voice has a certain artificial quality to it that I hear in other AI stuff. Not even sure the picture makes sense, with him sitting with a guitar so close to the stove. That said, when I search for 1939 Delta blues on Youtube I am getting what appears to be a lot of AI-generated thumbnails, https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=1939+delta+blues
Is this like a popular genre to fake due to its (apparent/assumed) simplicity?

It won't surprise me if in the future it's more common than not to believe the past is completely fabricated and that we live in a "simulation" and so forth. that'll become the mainstream view. If this keeps up. But it depends how well we can determine what is authentic history or not.

The sound quality in this one from "Vintage Grooves," a similar channel, is much higher than anything from the time:

heh the 3D audio effects are probably better than Dark side of the moon
I feel like that dog would be at her feet, if in the picture at all.. And her voice sounds thin/small for such a heavyset woman (if I can say that )
Do hound dogs even howl at moons?

 

[DanielT]

I might be fooled if I wasn't clued into thinking it was AI, but it sounds false for multiple reasons: 1, the recording sound quality (or whatever) is just too good sounding for the time (definitely "remastered"!), 2. The voice has a certain artificial quality to it that I hear in other AI stuff. Not even sure the picture makes sense, with him sitting with a guitar so close to the stove. That said, when I search for 1939 Delta blues on Youtube I am getting what appears to be a lot of AI-generated thumbnails, https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=1939+delta+blues
Is this like a popular genre to fake due to its (apparent/assumed) simplicity?

It won't surprise me if in the future it's more common than not to believe the past is completely fabricated and that we live in a "simulation" and so forth. that'll become the mainstream view. If this keeps up. But it depends how well we can determine what is authentic history or not.

The sound quality in this one from "Vintage Grooves," a similar channel, is much higher than anything from the time:

heh the 3D audio effects are probably better than Dark side of the moon
I feel like that dog would be at her feet, if in the picture at all.. And her voice sounds thin/small for such a heavyset woman (if I can say that )
Do hound dogs even howl at moons?

Just throwing in some blues names at random is not enough for a normal blues connoisseur to be fooled. Quite the opposite.

What can fool me, however, (is it AI generated or not?) is ambient music. Or rather harmless, elevator music, ambient background music. And to be honest if I'm in the mood to relax with such music, I might as well listen to AI generated music.

 

[Peterinvan]

Until reproduced sound is no longer distinguishable from natural sound, there is work to do. And there is always new music to find and love.

It's more than that...

What I enjoy is listening to a small group, playing acoustic instruments, where you can feel that they are all in the same "groove".

It's a kind of synced up flow state. That's what gives me frisson.

If you like bluegrass, watch Bela Fleck and friends video "Wheels Up" on Tidal:

Béla Fleck, Molly Tuttle & Sierra Hull - Wheels Up (feat. Sierra Hull & Molly Tuttle) [Live at The Farmette in Lyons, Colorado, July 21, 2021]

Watch Wheels Up (feat. Sierra Hull & Molly Tuttle) [Live at The Farmette in Lyons, Colorado, July 21, 2021] on TIDAL

tidal.com

Can AI ever generate that?

 

[Curvature]

It's more than that...

What I enjoy is listening to a small group, playing acoustic instruments, where you can feel that they are all in the same "groove".

It's a kind of synced up flow state. That's what gives me frisson.

Can AI ever generate that?

Of course. Just pretend whatever is generated was a recording made by musicians and not end to end by a machine.

People make a lot of distinctions between live and reproduced and generated music that don't hold up under scrutiny.

 

[Frank Dernie]

I might be fooled if I wasn't clued into thinking it was AI, but it sounds false for multiple reasons: 1, the recording sound quality (or whatever) is just too good sounding for the time (definitely "remastered"!), 2. The voice has a certain artificial quality to it that I hear in other AI stuff. Not even sure the picture makes sense, with him sitting with a guitar so close to the stove. That said, when I search for 1939 Delta blues on Youtube I am getting what appears to be a lot of AI-generated thumbnails, https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=1939+delta+blues
Is this like a popular genre to fake due to its (apparent/assumed) simplicity?

It won't surprise me if in the future it's more common than not to believe the past is completely fabricated and that we live in a "simulation" and so forth. that'll become the mainstream view. If this keeps up. But it depends how well we can determine what is authentic history or not.

The sound quality in this one from "Vintage Grooves," a similar channel, is much higher than anything from the time:

heh the 3D audio effects are probably better than Dark side of the moon
I feel like that dog would be at her feet, if in the picture at all.. And her voice sounds thin/small for such a heavyset woman (if I can say that )
Do hound dogs even howl at moons?

The stupidest thing about the fake "lost" track is playing back fake old movie artefacts over a still image and the instrumentation

 

[Defi]

There's some line between a 4 track and writing a prompt, but I think that the latter extreme is depressing. We should be using AI to do mundane things that free up time to create art. One of the best feelings is making something and the reward is a result of the process. Making my own music has been one of the things that I feel most proud of. That feeling does not come from writing a prompt. It is offensive to musicians. More than that, it is destructive. If we want real art to continue there needs to be a clear message to reject this fully autonomous regurgitation. Thankfully streaming platforms have started banning it.

It's actually quite sad to read complacence. A total lack of respect for musicians and entitlement to enjoy music that wouldn't exist without them.

 

[Peterinvan]

Of course. Just pretend whatever is generated was a recording made by musicians and not end to end by a machine.

People make a lot of distinctions between live and reproduced and generated music that don't hold up under scrutiny.

If you like bluegrass, watch Bela Fleck and friends video "Wheels Up" on Tidal:

​

Watch Wheels Up (feat. Sierra Hull & Molly Tuttle) [Live at The Farmette in Lyons, Colorado, July 21, 2021] on TIDAL

tidal.com




Can AI ever generate that?