[No Politics] What you need to know about CoVID-19 by SARS-CoV-2 [No Politics]

[maty]

Las colas del hambre y la pobreza inician su escalada en Madrid: “Cada día viene más gente nueva”
[Spanish] https://elpais.com/espana/madrid/20...-colas-son-larguisimas-para-pedir-comida.html

The queues of hunger and poverty begin their escalation in Madrid: "Every day more new people come"
https://translate.google.es/translate?sl=es&tl=en&u=https://elpais.com/espana/madrid/2020-04-23/la-pobreza-inicia-su-escalada-cada-dia-viene-gente-nueva-las-colas-son-larguisimas-para-pedir-comida.html

[ The Food Bank of Madrid has also detected it. If 150,000 people were served in the region in March, today it is 190,000. "And going up," says a spokeswoman. Applications have been increased by 30% by the pandemic. The stock they had was for three months. "But at this rate we ran out of it."

The City Council says it has received in March the same number of requests for food aid as in all of 2019: more than 34,000. Social eaters have quadrupled the number of users who serve on a daily basis.

Caritas also warns: "Requests for help have tripled and 40% of these requests come from people who do so for the first time." Madrid already faces another pandemic curve: social one... ]


Hotel, restaurant, bar, home cleaning workers ... services workers, I guess. A large majority must be immigrants but not only. In Spain, the underground economy is estimated to be between 20 and 25% of GDP. In some regions [Andalusia] much more than in others. The tourism sector is essential, it employs many workers. Low wages and immigration is what predominates today.

https://datosmacro.expansion.com/demografia/migracion/inmigracion/espana

2019, 12.96% of inmigrants in Spain. Madrid and Catalonia must be about 20% if my memory does not fail me.

 

[BDWoody]

Ventilator mortality 88.1% in this study.

Maybe the fact that there are only 2,000 in all of Africa won't and up making as much difference as was expected. As treatments also improve to keep people off mechanical ventilation, hopefully the overall IFR will improve.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2765184

Results A total of 5700 patients were included (median age, 63 years [interquartile range {IQR}, 52-75; range, 0-107 years]; 39.7% female). The most common comorbidities were hypertension (3026; 56.6%), obesity (1737; 41.7%), and diabetes (1808; 33.8%). At triage, 30.7% of patients were febrile, 17.3% had a respiratory rate greater than 24 breaths/minute, and 27.8% received supplemental oxygen. The rate of respiratory virus co-infection was 2.1%. Outcomes were assessed for 2634 patients who were discharged or had died at the study end point. During hospitalization, 373 patients (14.2%) (median age, 68 years [IQR, 56-78]; 33.5% female) were treated in the intensive care unit care, 320 (12.2%) received invasive mechanical ventilation, 81 (3.2%) were treated with kidney replacement therapy, and 553 (21%) died. Mortality for those requiring mechanical ventilation was 88.1%

 

[RayDunzl]

Apart from the post hoc, ergo propter hoc nature of the argument, a key difference was that the GIs returning from World War I Europe who were carrying the swine-flu virus couldn’t fly nonstop from Paris to St. Louis. They had to land at East Coast ports such as Philadelphia.

There wasn't anyone flying across the Atlantic at that time...

(unless I mistake the inference)

 

[SIY]

There wasn't anyone flying across the Atlantic at that time...

(unless I mistake the inference)

Lindbergh nods.

 

[Deleted member 65]

There wasn't anyone flying across the Atlantic at that time...

(unless I mistake the inference)

I'll have a word with John Fund's National Review editor ...

 

[SIY]

I'll have a word with John Fund's National Review editor ...

Send him this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_flight#1910s

NR has lost most of their best writers over the past ten years. Williamson is a gem, though.

 

[maty]

Don't ease lockdown yet, says Germany public health organism [RKI]
https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...0845d1c895d0dd#block-5ea2dd058f0845d1c895d0dd

[ He said unlike in Italy, France and Spain, there was so far no evidence of excess mortality in Germany - that is, a death rate higher than the usual average death rate for this time of year. This was, he said, due to the fact that Germany was able to tackle the illness early on, largely through testing, and dampen its spread, and therefore treated many coronavirus cases effectively, without lessening hospitals’ ability to treat other illnesses... ]

[ In short, Schaade said, his “emphatic plea” was for people to stick to the recommendations:

Stay at home, stay away from others, keep the 1.5 metre - or even better 2 metre distance, keep to the coughing and sneezing rules, and on public transport or shops, wear mouth-nose cover to protect others.

He recognised, he said, that “many people are running out of strength, and many are suffering from existential angst. Believe me, I’d like nothing more than to tell you it’s over...but unfortunately it’s not over.” ]

 

[maty]

Isolating the Sick at Home, Italy Stores Up Family Tragedies
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/world/europe/italy-coronavirus-home-isolation.html?

[ Italy’s leading virologists now consider home infections, alongside clusters in retirement homes, to be a stubborn source of the country’s contagion. Living together in close quarters and the failure to move the infected into dedicated quarantine facilities have, they say, paradoxically propped up the curve of infections that “stay home” measures were designed to suppress.

The problem is one the Chinese government bludgeoned quickly. It ordered the roundup of all residents in Wuhan infected with the coronavirus, warehousing them in quarantine camps, sometimes with little care. While that approach may have helped contain the virus, ripping people apart from their homes is anathema to Western democracies, especially Italy, where tight-knit families are the rule.

Italy, like other Western democracies, has wrestled with the difficulty of balancing the containment of the virus with the economic, social and political costs of removing people without symptoms from their own homes. The government has not made isolating patients outside their homes a priority... ]


That same mistake has been made in Spain, central and regions. When the pandemic spreads so far it should be done, using hotels equipped for it. And having declared the State of Exception and not only that of Alarm.

 

[Deleted member 65]

Send him this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_flight#1910s

NR has lost most of their best writers over the past ten years. Williamson is a gem, though.

I should have caught this myself!
Misc: Swedish Airforce had something called Flying Boys when I grew up. Once a week I was picked by them and got to visit the local airbase, sit in fighter jets, meet with fighter pilots and learnt how to identify enemy aircrafts. At the time being 10-11 yo I could identify any Soviet fighter/bomber.

 

[maty]

It must have been when foreign submarines were sneaking into Swedish territorial waters.

- End off topic -

 

[JustJones]

I'll have a word with John Fund's National Review editor ...

Might send him this as well.
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200420/four-lessons-from-the-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic

 

[maty]

Work smart, travel alone, eat out fast: South Korea's prescription for coronavirus recovery
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...iption-for-coronavirus-recovery-idUSKCN22617K

[ The Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) reported just six new cases, the lowest number since the Feb. 28 peak of 909 in South Korea, which suffered the first major coronavirus epidemic outside China.

With no new deaths, the toll remained at 240 and authorities hope daily new cases will drop to zero in the coming days after dipping below 10 on Sunday following several days above that level. Total recorded infections are at 10,708 in the country of almost 52 million people... ]

[ “Some experts predict COVID-19 will stay for as long as two years, and we have to accept the reality that we can’t go back to pre-COVID-19 life during that time,” Vice Health Minister Kim Gang-lip told a briefing... ]

 

[maty]

Le Tocilizumab, médicament prometteur pour réduire les entrées en réanimation
[French] https://www.franceinter.fr/societe/...tteur-pour-reduire-les-entrees-en-reanimation

Tocilizumab, a promising drug to reduce entry into intensive care
https://translate.google.es/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=https://www.franceinter.fr/societe/le-tocilizumab-medicament-prometteur-pour-reduire-les-entrees-en-reanimation

[ Half as many ICU patients

At the start of the epidemic, this hospital did not have the medicine. Thirty patients were therefore treated without having recourse to it. When Tocilizumab arrived, the hospital treated around 30 other patients under the age of 80 with this drug, and compared the results.

Result: the treatment would reduce by half the number of transfers in intensive care. "I can give you the example of a 68-year-old patient who immediately required 6 liters of oxygen in the emergency room to breathe more or less correctly. Within 6 to 12 hours, the flow of The oxygen requirement has increased to 12 liters. Seven days after the second dose of Tocilizumab, the patient was discharged from the hospital," said Dr. Félix Ackermann, who heads the internal medicine department at Foch Hospital.

Not a miracle cure but a real lead

To do well, treatment must be given at the precise moment when hospitalized patients see their condition worsen, with a need for oxygen which increases suddenly. Treatment consists of one or two doses; furthermore it is very well tolerated, with no significant side effects. Cost of the injection: 800 to 1,000 euros, when a day of resuscitation easily costs 2,000 euros.

Consolidated results for twice as many patients must now confirm this preliminary study. Even if it is not a miracle product, that it does not cure everyone, Tocilizumab proves to be a real track. The fear, on the other hand, is the risk of shortage: it is a biotherapy which is not produced quickly on a large scale. ]

 

[maty]

Las colas del hambre y la pobreza inician su escalada en Madrid: “Cada día viene más gente nueva”
[Spanish] https://elpais.com/espana/madrid/20...-colas-son-larguisimas-para-pedir-comida.html

The queues of hunger and poverty begin their escalation in Madrid: "Every day more new people come"
https://translate.google.es/translate?sl=es&tl=en&u=https://elpais.com/espana/madrid/2020-04-23/la-pobreza-inicia-su-escalada-cada-dia-viene-gente-nueva-las-colas-son-larguisimas-para-pedir-comida.html

[ The Food Bank of Madrid has also detected it. If 150,000 people were served in the region in March, today it is 190,000. "And going up," says a spokeswoman. Applications have been increased by 30% by the pandemic. The stock they had was for three months. "But at this rate we ran out of it."

The City Council says it has received in March the same number of requests for food aid as in all of 2019: more than 34,000. Social eaters have quadrupled the number of users who serve on a daily basis.

Caritas also warns: "Requests for help have tripled and 40% of these requests come from people who do so for the first time." Madrid already faces another pandemic curve: social one... ]


Hotel, restaurant, bar, home cleaning workers ... services workers, I guess. A large majority must be immigrants but not only. In Spain, the underground economy is estimated to be between 20 and 25% of GDP. In some regions [Andalusia] much more than in others. The tourism sector is essential, it employs many workers. Low wages and immigration is what predominates today.

https://datosmacro.expansion.com/demografia/migracion/inmigracion/espana

2019, 12.96% of inmigrants in Spain. Madrid and Catalonia must be about 20% if my memory does not fail me.

Las colas del hambre: la crisis dispara la pobreza en EEUU
[Spanish] https://www.elperiodico.com/es/inte...is-dispara-pobreza-eeuu-bancos-comida-7938983

The queues of hunger: the crisis triggers poverty in the US
https://translate.google.es/translate?sl=es&tl=en&u=https://www.elperiodico.com/es/internacional/20200424/colas-hambre-crisis-dispara-pobreza-eeuu-bancos-comida-7938983

[ Before the crisis began, 40 million Americans received free food at more than 60,000 food banks, soup kitchens, convenience stores, schools, or homeless shelters, according to Feeding America. A number now called to shoot up. In the past five weeks, 26 million have signed up for the unemployment charts. Almost one in six Americans is out of a job... ]

[ Without health insurance

Another 28 million also do not have health insurance. A problem that this crisis has accentuated because more than half of the insured receive their policies from their jobs. The consulting firm Health Management Associates estimates that between 12 million and 35 million Americans will lose health coverage during the pandemic... ]

 

[MediumRare]

I still do not understand why there are so few recovered in the statistics of a few countries. The difference is vast, something is wrong. They are supposed to be sick who tested positive at the hospital and then, after healing, tested negative, what is the criteria of the WHO to be able to compare.

I don't know either, but there are some longstanding viral diseases (herpes, hepatitis) that CANNOT be healed. You have them for life. Previous testing of people coming up negative for Covid-19 is suspect, so it's possible no one - or very few - are actually completely healed & virus free.

 

[maty]

Revealed: UK ministers were warned last year of risks of coronavirus pandemic
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ed-last-year-of-risks-of-coronavirus-pandemic

[ The document said:

• A pandemic would play out in up to “three waves”, with each wave expected to last 15 weeks … “with the peak weeks occurring at weeks 6 and 7 in each wave”.

• 50% of the population would be infected and experience symptoms of pandemic influenza during the one or more waves. The actual number of people infected would be higher than this, as there would be a number of asymptomatic cases.

• A pandemic of moderate virulence could lead to 65,600 deaths.

• The potential cost to the UK could be £2.35tn.

• Even after the end of the pandemic, it is likely that it would take months or even years for health and social care services to recover.

• There would be significant public outrage over any perceived poor handling of the government’s preparations and response to the emergency. ]

 

[Putter]

It’s a bit more complicated then this. See article excerpt below:

”The other major evidence academics often cite is the course run by the 1918 swine flu, which swept the globe 102 years ago and was not a coronavirus. Philadelphia did not practice social distancing during the 1918 pandemic, but St. Louis did and had a death rate lower than Philadelphia’s. But how is that relevant to today’s crisis? Apart from the post hoc, ergo propter hoc nature of the argument, a key difference was that the GIs returning from World War I Europe who were carrying the swine-flu virus couldn’t fly nonstop from Paris to St. Louis. They had to land at East Coast ports such as Philadelphia. It’s therefore not surprising that the sick GIs rested and convalesced while spreading the virus on the East Coast, and they got better before continuing to St. Louis and other interior cities.

Basing the entire architecture of social distancing on the evidence from the 1918 swine flu makes no sense, especially when that architecture causes significant destruction in the lives and livelihoods of most of the American population.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-response-sweden-avoids-isolation-economic-ruin/

The article was written on April 6 so let's see how they're doing compared to the surrounding countries using https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries link as of today.

Cases/1M population Deaths/1M population Tests/1M population
Sweden 1739 213 9357
Finland 793 32 13446
Denmark 1470 70 21638
Norway 1365 36 28614

I was apprised of this on the Rachel Maddow show on CNBC. Various Fox New Prime Time hosts kept highlighting Sweden as the prime example of how to get on with life in the Corona virus, allow life to go on as normal with minimal precautions, i.e. from an ABC News article There is a voluntary lockdown in place. People are advised to work from home where possible and maintain social distancing. They are told not to visit elderly relatives and of course wash their hands. The local economy has still suffered.

This struck her as odd given that Sweden is about as Socialist as you can get. She pointed out that it's no longer in they're no longer in their conversation. At this point I would give it a FAIL, although some point out that maybe they'll escape a 2nd wave in the Fall. As I mentioned in a previous post, if this is considered too political please remove my commentary, but leave the numbers. I try to only present facts not political opinions.

 

[Soniclife]

I don't know either, but there are some longstanding viral diseases (herpes, hepatitis) that CANNOT be healed. You have them for life. Previous testing of people coming up negative for Covid-19 is suspect, so it's possible no one - or very few - are actually completely healed & virus free.

I assume they are not re-testing most of these people. Are they even re-testing people who have been seriously ill in hospital before sending them home?

 

[MarcT]

COVID-19: Can air-conditioning systems aid in spreading coronavirus?
https://gulfnews.com/world/covid-19...-aid-in-spreading-coronavirus-1.1587031702940

[ Experts call for better ventilation, along with bringing more air from outside in (rather than recirculating indoor air) and maintaining filters properly ]


COVID-19 Outbreak Associated with Air Conditioning in Restaurant, Guangzhou, China, 2020
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0764_article

[ Abstract

During January 26–February 10, 2020, an outbreak of 2019 novel coronavirus disease in an air-conditioned restaurant in Guangzhou, China, involved 3 family clusters. The airflow direction was consistent with droplet transmission. To prevent the spread of the virus in restaurants, we recommend increasing the distance between tables and improving ventilation. ]

View attachment 60139

Figure. Sketch showing arrangement of restaurant tables and air conditioning airflow at site of outbreak of 2019 novel coronavirus disease, Guangzhou, China, 2020. Red circles indicate seating of future case-patients; yellow-filled red circle indicates index case-patient.

I've noticed here that in most restaurants, the air conditioning vents blow straight downwards onto the patrons and eating surfaces. I don't like cold wind blowing on my bald head in general, so I always notice this. And, based on the condition and appearance of their rest rooms, I suspect that many restaurants completely fail to properly change the air filters in their systems. I'm thinking that the inspections that health departments make of eating establishments will have to be expanded from the current primary focus on the kitchen area and food handling, to now also include inspection of the A/C system and its filtering and air flow patterns.

 

[maty]

El elefante blanco de la gestión británica del coronavirus: el "Ifema de Londres", vacío
[Spanish] https://www.elconfidencial.com/mund...ondres-hospital-fantasma-coronavirus_2563296/

The white elephant of the British management of the coronavirus: the "Ifema of London", empty
https://translate.google.es/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.elconfidencial.com/mundo/europa/2020-04-24/ifema-de-londres-hospital-fantasma-coronavirus_2563296/

[ After a belated reaction to imposing confinement, the British Government began to fear that the United Kingdom might become the new Italy. With the help of the Army, in a matter of nine days, an emergency unit with a capacity of 4,000 beds (the equivalent of ten conventional hospitals) was built.

However, the "London Ifema" has become a ghost hospital, a true "white elephant". It has barely treated 41 people to date. Seven of them were discharged, four died and the rest were still admitted this Monday. It is not that the pandemic has been eradicated. Nothing is further from reality. The problem is that there are not enough health personnel to attend to the most serious patients with covid-19... ]

[ Despite the fact that they do have a large number of doctors, the great dilemma is that there are not enough nurses specialized in intensive care. Therefore, hospitals in the British capital - where 20% of the country's total cases are registered - now have no solution to alleviate the capacity of their ICUs... ]