Nice turntables. Attached picture is an absolute requirement.

[flightops]

Dual 1249 with an ADC XLM MKIII with a "Rivertone" stylus and a 1229Q with a Denon DL-110 in my own DIY plinths:

Both rebuilt/serviced and blueprinted. Both use a MoS2 center bearing and the 1229Q has an Audiovault.ca CNC idler and wears a "2X Anti-Resonator" counterweight from a 601/701. The 1249 has a similar "2X Anti-Resonator" counterweight scheme as delivered. Both return lower W&F numbers than OEM stated new specs.

And, a Technics SL-QL15 with an AT132EP cart wearing a VMN40ML stylus:

So one belt drive, one idler drive and one direct drive. Two radial arms and one linear tracker. One MI cart, an HOMC and a MI cart. Two elliptical diamonds and one microline. Currently less than 150hrs on all the styli.

I like to have options.

 

[Palmer]

Looks like the cousin to the MA-707, the CF-1.

Methinks they are practically identical, except the extra weight and the markings. Good find, did not know about that iteration.

Edit: Found this on Audiogon, very insightful. I am always amazed at what comes to light on Micro Seiki.

goodmusic​

18 posts
08-24-2024 at 02:15pm
The answer of @clio09 is wrong:
The Micro Seiki CF-1 tonearm is identical with the Micro Seiki MA-701:
https://www.hifi-wiki.de/index.php/Micro_Seiki_MA-701

None have a sliding weight on the front armtube (carbon fiber) nor do they have markings!

So both, the CF-1 and MA-701 are complete without any front sliding weight because they never had one.

It is the MA-707 which has the sliding weight:
https://www.hifi-wiki.de/index.php/Micro_Seiki_MA-707

All three tonearms have the same detacheable headshell and there is a ceramic headshell by Micro which is supposed to be very good.

There was a late version of the MA-701 which was cheaper:
https://www.vinylengine.com/library/micro-seiki/ma-701.shtml

and here we have the confusion, vinylengine has data on the MA707 tonearm here:
https://www.vinylengine.com/library/micro-seiki/ma-707.shtml
but what they show is the earlier MA-701/CF-1

 

[EJ3]

What about a solution like this though?

The World's First Levitating Turntable - MAG-LEV Audio

MAG-LEV Audio’s ML1 Turntable visually enhances the experience of listening to vinyl records by levitating the platter. By joining our love for music with careful integration of technology and high-range audio components, we’ve created a turntable of the future for the medium of the past.

maglevaudio.com

Rubber coat the platter like Denon did on my DP 3000 to handle ringing and “zero” friction.

At least they say "visually enhances"!

 

[EJ3]

I sorta don’t understand the appeal of using such hard metals, other than just making it expensive and unique.

If I want a heavy platter that also was reasonably well damped (but still metal), I would machine an aluminum shell, maybe 12” by 1 or 2” deep but perhaps 1/4” thick, and fill it with lead. It would weigh more than brass, ring far less than tungsten, and be a tiny fraction of the cost. But it might be easier to grind a granite disk.

The problem with these massive disks is the motor power and transmission required to spin them, the bearing required to support them, and the noise all that entails.

Rick “can’t even find brass in 12” unfinished disks to price” Denney

I have heard that some people in the past some have had to use washing machine motors to operate their turntables. On the surface, it seems improbable. But...?

 

[Thomas_A]

Methinks they are practically identical, except the extra weight and the markings. Good find, did not know about that iteration.

Edit: Found this on Audiogon, very insightful. I am always amazed at what comes to light on Micro Seiki.

goodmusic​

18 posts
08-24-2024 at 02:15pm
The answer of @clio09 is wrong:
The Micro Seiki CF-1 tonearm is identical with the Micro Seiki MA-701:
https://www.hifi-wiki.de/index.php/Micro_Seiki_MA-701

None have a sliding weight on the front armtube (carbon fiber) nor do they have markings!

So both, the CF-1 and MA-701 are complete without any front sliding weight because they never had one.

It is the MA-707 which has the sliding weight:
https://www.hifi-wiki.de/index.php/Micro_Seiki_MA-707

All three tonearms have the same detacheable headshell and there is a ceramic headshell by Micro which is supposed to be very good.

There was a late version of the MA-701 which was cheaper:
https://www.vinylengine.com/library/micro-seiki/ma-701.shtml

and here we have the confusion, vinylengine has data on the MA707 tonearm here:
https://www.vinylengine.com/library/micro-seiki/ma-707.shtml
but what they show is the earlier MA-701/CF-1

I think the difference is the carbon fibre arm tube without markings.

 

[Palmer]

I think the difference is the carbon fibre arm tube without markings.

And the customer just sent me a picture of the set up. It came out really nice. We are both super excited.

Cheers

 

[DSJR]

Nice turntable is stretching it a bit maybe - Here's my ProJect project, bought cheap with tonearm in need of rewiring and other works, 'cos I had an itch I wanted to scratch...a good set of ideas, spoiled by being designed and built to the lowest price possible, especially the unipivot tonearm that could be so good with a bit more money put into it. The replacement model returned to conventional arm pivots... Bass reproduction is surprisingly good however, drive noise seems low and spread up in the distant mids if anywhere, This one came with a cork mat which I'm partial to. Brand new OM5e stylus at 1.75g

 

[MattHooper]

This is a gorgeous turntable IMO:

 

[JRowland]

And the customer just sent me a picture of the set up. It came out really nice. We are both super excited.

Cheers

View attachment 528337

What a beautiful way to groove, I like wood and things that glow and a simple aesthetic. That arm matches that streamlined simple yet beautiful look. I need to stop looking at this thread.

 

[Chasepoes]

My first turntable was a Dual 1620 which was my father gifted me when he upgraded his turntable. It was fine, but it looked way to outdated for my 12 year old taste somewhere around 1982. I started working as an apprentice at an audio/video repair shop which had a dust covered Denon SL-7D tucked away in the corner of the storage room. I immediately fell for its looks and was made aware that it was left there because it was unrepairable. So I got it for free. I spend many an hour restoring the thing and got it working perfectly.

When doing some of the research into Denon decks I discovered the DP-59L and this instantly became my dream-deck. Unoptainium for a student back in 1987 because of its price. From the SL-7D I went to a Pro-ject 6.1 somewhere around the year 2000. A very fine player, but that Denon 59L kept nagging me somewhere in the back of my brain. Around 2010 I stumbled upon a very battered and bruised DP-47F which I bought out of interest for mere pennies. I was able to get it working and was immediately captivated by the Q-damping technology. This technology tickled my nerd brain. Some 2 years later I bought a perfectly preserved DP-47F which needed some love and thought I was on my end-game deck, having the bashed and bruised version as a spare-parts donor.

But then my 14 year old son kept nagging me about wanting his own deck to play records. And a few weeks ago another option presented itself: A DP-59L in near perfect condition, serviced by a trusted technician.

To make a long story short: Honouring the tradition set by my own father, I gifted the DP-47F to my son and I am now the proud owner and user of my teenage dream-deck, the Denon DP-59L.

 

[rdenney]

And the customer just sent me a picture of the set up. It came out really nice. We are both super excited.

Cheers

View attachment 528337

I'd be scared to death to have an open plate-voltage transformer that close to the cartridge. I think I'd want it to be about four feet away, or contained in a faraday shield. Is it the phono stage? That seems a big vacuum tube for cartridge-level voltages and power requirements.

Rick "hmmmmmm" Denney

 

[Audionaut]

Denon DP-59L

I've always thought Denon turntables were great, but they had a reputation for being prone to malfunctions, which is why I never bought one.
Enjoy this beautiful piece

 

[Groovy]

I've always wanted a large Japanese direct-drive turntable. Last year, I was finally able to buy an affordable Kenwood KD-7010 in good condition.

 

[Sjkrabbe]

this was my TT - Thorens TD 1601 with a Ortofon 2M Black LvB250 - But it is sold now and I bought a new TT - a Thorens TD 1601 - BUT with the new improved arm TP160

 

[Groovy]

The TD1601 looks great; I really like it. With its vintage style, your new TP160 arm matches the TD1601 very well.

That's my Thorens TD124 II with SME3012 II arm.

 

[Chasepoes]

I've always thought Denon turntables were great, but they had a reputation for being prone to malfunctions, which is why I never bought one.
Enjoy this beautiful piece

I've heard the same thing, but when properly maintained they are actually quite reliable. Besides some cleaning and oiling of pivots and bearings, the only thing this DP-59L needed were 2 capacitors in the power supply. Everything else was still operating well within spec.

 

[Bland_username42069]

The soulution turntable. Notable as the whole platter moves whilst the tone arm stays in a fixed position - an unusual approach to linear tracking. Looks quite nice too

soulution 787 turntable

soulution-audio.com

 

[Pauli]

The soulution turntable.

Interesting concept, totally new to me.

I’d guess the one basic problem with it is the obvious fact that the tonearm not only serves as a tonearm – of course – but also as a sensor for the lateral platter movement control.

 

[EJ3]

The soulution turntable. Notable as the whole platter moves whilst the tone arm stays in a fixed position - an unusual approach to linear tracking. Looks quite nice too

soulution 787 turntable

soulution-audio.com

Welcome to the linear tracking side of things! Good to have another one.
This is what I have (built from 1984-1986) and this one is shown without the lid.
Check out the tracking error angle the third line down (after it says: Commentary).
Mine also has a rather rare (for the time) 120/60 HZ-240/50 HZ voltage switch, so can use in the same locales as yours.
There are other specs that I cannot compare, as I could not find them for yours.
Audio Database

• Technics SL-M3​

• ¥ 99,800 (around 1986)

Commentary​

A full-auto player with linear tracking system.

It is equipped with a unique linear tracking arm that can make tracking error, which causes distortion during playback, and inside force, which causes channel imbalance, close to 0.
The tracking error angle is within ± 0.05 ° by detecting the arm deflection angle with an optical sensor and obtaining a high-precision detection signal.

The tone arm uses a unique dynamic balance system, and the arm bearing uses a 4-point support system gimbal suspension system.
In addition, the arm has a low mass design with an effective mass of 13g including the cartridge.

Diameter 32.5 cm, Weight 2.5 kg, Inertial Mass 427 kg / cm2Large and heavy aluminum die-cast turntable has been adopted.

Continuously variable pitch adjustment within ± 6% is possible.

Equipped with an electronically controlled full auto mechanism.

Equipped with plug-in connector system MM type cartridge.

TNRC and high-density particle board are used for the cabinet.

• 

Model Rating​

Type	Quartz DD full auto player system
<Turntable portion>
Drive system	Direct drive
Control system	Quartz control
Number of revolutions	33 1/3, 45 rpm
Wow flutter	0.022%W.R.M.S(JIS C5521) 0.008% W. R. M. S (Rotating Part Only)
Signal-to-noise ratio	82 dB (DIN-B, IEC98A weighted)
Cartridge Section
Type	Plug-in connector MM type stereo cartridge
Exchange needle	EPS-P205ED4(¥15,000)
<General>
Pwer	100 VAC, 50Hz/60Hz
Power consumption	22W
External dimensions	Width 526x Height 202x Depth 426 mm
Weight	13.5kg

 

[Audiotone]

long time ago...
loved the decca tonearm...Ortofon MC
phono preamp was DACT...
E80F homemade preamp
KT88 PPP homemade mono amps
IMF TLS80 MKII speakers
served me very well for more than 15 years!
Then I discovered computer audio